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I just installed the new FL Studio and it seems to be having problems playing my DXi plugins.

For example, I load EastWest Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra Gold Edition (DXi) and an instrument into it but no sound can be heard. The peak meter in the Kompakt wrapper moves accordingly to the notes pressed but no sound is actually coming out of it. My VST plugins work fine but I really don't want to swap out my DXi plugins with the VST versions. Could you please help me?

Btw, I upgraded to DirectX 10 but that didn't fix the problem.


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By "new FL Studio" I mean FL Studio 9. Forgot to clarify that. Sorry about the double post!


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Hellmasker: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.ph p?t=40317&highlight=dxi

Apparently Image-Line no longer supports DX/DXI. Or so this forum post is saying. I think if you're on 9 it's VST or else.


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If you still have an older version of FL you can checkout moving the old FL wrapper.dll to the newer version and see if it still opens up DXIs. I'm a bit iffy on this, and you may need to move some other core files.

I've successfully moved the original Ts404 synth from FL 3.0 to 8.02 myself though, so there is a glimmer of hope there.

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Is there something you can do in the setup or preference so that ever new vst (instrument sound clip basically everything that goes in the sequencer) Is automatically assigned a mixer channel?

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Question; can FL change notes in the piano roll to have a swing beat?

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At 9/16/09 04:41 PM, Kaizerwolf wrote: Question; can FL change notes in the piano roll to have a swing beat?

You can figure out a swing beat in the piano roll itself if you closely examine how the piano roll works, but doesn't FL have a swing meter on top of everything?

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At 9/16/09 04:41 PM, Kaizerwolf wrote: Question; can FL change notes in the piano roll to have a swing beat?

In the piano roll, in the tools menu (the wrench icon), open up the quantizer and open up the 'shuffle' preset, the percentage applied is the same scale as the swing bar as far as I know.

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At 9/16/09 01:50 AM, InGenius wrote: Hellmasker: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.ph p?t=40317&highlight=dxi

Apparently Image-Line no longer supports DX/DXI. Or so this forum post is saying. I think if you're on 9 it's VST or else.

Ahh, boo. Yeea, you're right, apparently FL Studio 9 really does NOT support DX/DXi anymore. Forum user "reflex" on the Image-Line forum said it himself: "DX/DXi support is no longer updated (read: we'd remove it if we could)." Lame...

At 9/16/09 12:30 PM, InvisibleObserver wrote: If you still have an older version of FL you can checkout moving the old FL wrapper.dll to the newer version and see if it still opens up DXIs. I'm a bit iffy on this, and you may need to move some other core files.

I've successfully moved the original Ts404 synth from FL 3.0 to 8.02 myself though, so there is a glimmer of hope there.

I tried just moving the FLWrapper.dll but it didn't work -the new Fruity Wrapper still opened up in FL. I probably do need to move other core files but whatev, I give up.

Oh well, thanks anyway guys!


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Crap! Once again I forget to clarify.

I swapped the FLWrapper.dll from FL Studio 8.2.0 with the one in the FL Studio 9 folder but the FL Studio 9 wrapper still opened up.

Once again: sorry about the double post! (I'm trying not to make it a habit)


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Is there also (in FL Studio 9) no "swap panels" option for the playlist?


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Hey every one, 2 things.
Does any one know how to change your voice on FL studio 8, Like to make it that you got a dark evil voice or high and funny without changing the speed.
And does any one know how to export the vocals from a song whole song.

Thx all, Blake


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At 9/18/09 09:23 PM, Sparrow40k wrote: Hey every one, 2 things.
Does any one know how to change your voice on FL studio 8, Like to make it that you got a dark evil voice or high and funny without changing the speed.

Um, not sure if you can do it in FL without changing the speed, but you could try using Edison, it's a sound editor. I haven't used it so I'm not sure, but it might help. If not, use Audacity. I know you can use the vocoder in FL, but that's not what you're looking for so yeah, try Edison or Audacity.

And does any one know how to export the vocals from a song whole song.

What? If it's already an FLP, then just mute everything except the vocals/solo the vocals and export it... unless I understand incorrectly

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At 9/18/09 09:23 PM, Sparrow40k wrote: Hey every one, 2 things.
Does any one know how to change your voice on FL studio 8, Like to make it that you got a dark evil voice or high and funny without changing the speed.

Morphoder from the Waves bundle. Otherwise there were quite a few other FX I used to use that had that kind of preset, mostly in the vocoder type of plugin, or in chorus and filtering plugs.

And does any one know how to export the vocals from a song whole song.

Thx all, Blake

Find the instrumental, flip it's phase, line it up exactly with the full track. DIY Acapella. It won't always work and sometimes it'll work but leave artifacts.


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At 9/18/09 09:23 PM, Sparrow40k wrote: Hey every one, 2 things.
Does any one know how to change your voice on FL studio 8, Like to make it that you got a dark evil voice or high and funny without changing the speed.
And does any one know how to export the vocals from a song whole song.

Thx all, Blake

When you bring a voice in as either a sample, or vocal peice, you can select the channel and have its "Channel settings" open up.

Above wher the graphic of the sound wave is there are several options for the sounds volume. Above that group of knobs are a few to do with the play back of the clip.

Among those knobs are "Pitch" "Time stretch (Multiplicator)" "Time stretch (Time)"

Simply editing the pitch knob will alter the pitch and note of the clip, without stretching it longer or shorter.

As for exporting vocals, if its your song and you have the session file, mute all other channels and instruments so its just the vocals left.

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Question: I recently after much trouble shooting finally got my mic to record with FL Studio into Edison. I saved the project when i finished all that and when i opened it back up it wouldn't play any of my patterns. it's like all synth patches are at 0% volume.

when i open my effects mixer the master volume i noticed had a microphone icon on it, and at the top left when i play my project the "syn" or "audio / sync beat" box at the top left just flashes once every second.

i'm still trouble shooting of course to try to fix it myself but if someone could help me get past this wall a bit faster i'd be very grateful :)


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well i figured out it has to do with my asio4 output so i should be able to figure this out myself.
so forget this question, and thanks anyways guys :D


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At 9/18/09 08:33 PM, Hellmasker wrote: Is there also (in FL Studio 9) no "swap panels" option for the playlist?

idk man, i don't think there is a swap panels in FL9, it pisses me off :(


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At 9/19/09 03:18 PM, Father-of-Death wrote:
At 9/18/09 08:33 PM, Hellmasker wrote: Is there also (in FL Studio 9) no "swap panels" option for the playlist?
idk man, i don't think there is a swap panels in FL9, it pisses me off :(

There isn't.
On the IL forums (YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT I HAVE ACCESS TO THEM CAUSE I BOUGHT FL ;) ) One of the admins said that "swap panels" was left out on purpose. It's their "first step" to phasing out the use of the pattern blocks :( They want us to focus more on using the pattern clips (i think that's what they're called?) and all that other stuff.

I was majorly pissed.

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Thanks every one :p


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At 9/19/09 06:12 PM, Argyros wrote:
At 9/19/09 03:18 PM, Father-of-Death wrote:
At 9/18/09 08:33 PM, Hellmasker wrote: Is there also (in FL Studio 9) no "swap panels" option for the playlist?
idk man, i don't think there is a swap panels in FL9, it pisses me off :(
There isn't.
On the IL forums (YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT I HAVE ACCESS TO THEM CAUSE I BOUGHT FL ;) ) One of the admins said that "swap panels" was left out on purpose. It's their "first step" to phasing out the use of the pattern blocks :( They want us to focus more on using the pattern clips (i think that's what they're called?) and all that other stuff.

I was majorly pissed.

IL is going to get dinged for that. They'll be patching it shorty most likely. And if not, having someone decent at coding can probably write a .dll to mod it, its just screen placement, has nothing to do with how things in the software actually operate.

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Well, here's a rather open-ended question.

What would you FL geniuses out there recommend in terms of using FL to master your songs? Obviously I can't afford to hire an audio engineer to do it for me as this is a hobby (as I'm sure 99.99999% of newgrounders use FL studio for), but what are some things that you find really help make a song "pop" when it comes to mastering? Various EQ stuff, certain plugins, et c.?


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How do i make it so that a loop starts after a certain loop played a certain amount of times...? LIke one loop is playing, and then aother loop plays and starts increasing te sound..


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At 9/21/09 08:09 PM, Reaper93 wrote: Well, here's a rather open-ended question.

What would you FL geniuses out there recommend in terms of using FL to master your songs? Obviously I can't afford to hire an audio engineer to do it for me as this is a hobby (as I'm sure 99.99999% of newgrounders use FL studio for), but what are some things that you find really help make a song "pop" when it comes to mastering? Various EQ stuff, certain plugins, et c.?

Pretty sure your question is genre specific. What kind of music are you producing?

A pretty general guideline for all types of music is this: cut out ALL unused frequencies with an Equalizer. It frees up room for the synths that actually occupy those frequencies to come through. Ex) Cut a lot of bass freq's from leads/cymbals/other high range instruments to allow room for the kick and bass to come through.

Remember, even if you can't hear it, it doesn't mean that the sound doesn't have some low/high/mid frequencies that are interferring with the mix ;) It's best to just cut the unwanted frequencies out.

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On the mastering side, I suggest if you don't have any extra money to spend for better Spectrum Analysis plugins like Sonalksis Stereo Tools or an all-in-one Mastering tool like iZoptope's Ozone, then you CAN use EQUO for analysis, followed by Fruity Multiband Compressor to do some multiband Limiting after using EQUO to even out any anomalous EQ spaces, ie. cut areas that are overpowering the mix and boost a few key EQ areas (like the above 2.5kHz area to give some "air" to the mix when it lacks that top end). Much mastering is, as already stated, genre-specific, but the actual tools are mostly industry standard: Analysis followed by EQ followed by Limiting.

I actually use Sonalksis Stereo Tools followed by their wonderful MultiLimiter followed by another Stereo Tools to make sure the changes evened out the frequencies. I do still mix and master by ear, but this setup allows me to reference what my ears are hearing and improve the frequencies for better playback on alot of systems. I usually finish up with a Sonnox Oxford Dynamics set to Limiter and maybe a little Warmth to polish the sound, or I'll be trying my new Ozone out for that duty on some tracks. There are alot of Mastering plugin companies with plugins which can do these duties, T-Racks, Sonnox, Ozone, Sonalksis, Antress, Voxengo, Kjaerhus, and a number of other companies, some even providing free versions of their plugins. The key, in my opinion, is to find a really good analysis plugin and follow it up with solid EQ, then finish with good multi compression/limiting.


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Thanks for the general info, guys. I suppose for a specific genre the one I've been looking to make (eventually) is probably going to be some kind of electronica (likely trance). Any more specific tips on what to do when you tend to use synth leads layered onto a few acoustic instruments (perhaps acoustic percussion?)


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I have a question for you guys.

Ok I currently am using Fruity Loops 8, and I have to ask how do I record in the program with a Microphone? Second part is I'm trying to have AutoTune working while recording. How do I record with that up as well?

My Sound Driver is set to Primary Sound Driver and the Mic is not a USB

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Got FL studio 8 XXL. Now saying that, I'm new to this program, used to 7th edition. So anyone with knowledge bout this program, please answer my question. What do I use to get a trumpet and a violen sound?

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At 9/23/09 07:04 PM, t-bone88 wrote: Got FL studio 8 XXL. Now saying that, I'm new to this program, used to 7th edition. So anyone with knowledge bout this program, please answer my question. What do I use to get a trumpet and a violen sound?

I'd assume some kind of trumpet and or violin sample or synthesizer?


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