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Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/03/24/batman-v-superman-inside-the-making-of-a-super-pricey-blockbuster-bomb/

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/

Starring Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill as the namesake crusaders, the epic is already one of the most expensive films ever made, with an estimated production and marketing budget topping $400 million. It has to make well over 400 million to be considered successful. Do yourself a favor and wait for it to be free on the internet or on TV.

Don't forget it scored a 30 on Rotten Tomatoes.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 13:29:28


I pretty much hated Man of Steel. It was one long military commercial (literally, the military was heavily in involved in it). Plus, how many times are they going to rehash the same damn story over and over again? And ANOTHER Batman?

So I didn't have high hopes for this movie to begin with. I'll probably play it in the background as I'm working on something when it goes straight to Netflix or Amazon but that's about it.

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 13:58:47


At 3/26/16 01:04 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: i haven't seen it and probably never will
but all the reviews I've read say it's an incoherent mess

Make sure you tell everybody you know to save their money. The movie is boring and utter rubbish.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 14:07:32


At 3/26/16 01:56 PM, SocialistClock wrote: How? Why?
All the military did was go "oh shit, we cant do anything to Superman, we are completely useless :("
Not a very good recruitment movie imo

Google the military's involvement in Hollywood, specifically this movie. They played 15 minutes of military commercials before it too. It's a pretty common thing and was VERY apparent to me in this one. They can never make the military look bad, for example.

That wasn't the only problem I had with it (Kevin Costner as the dad for example) but just something that was painfully obvious.

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 14:17:56


You know it's a bomb when you see Ben Affleck in interviews looking like he's having a PTSD flashback of Daredevil

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 15:24:31


It's ridiculous that people call this a "bomb of all time". It's made more cash than the original Avengers and Age of Ultron in its opening night.

At 3/26/16 01:01 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Don't forget it scored a 30 on Rotten Tomatoes.

Yeah, if you go by 200 critics. If you go by the audience 151,000 people have scored it 73%. Putting it up there with Marvel films. Considering this, and how much money it's made, it's nowhere near "A flop." A flop is Judge Dredd, which made 30 million in the box office yet gets 76% by "critics". I thought the movie was great, and shot for shot like a comic book.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 15:29:47


The movie just made over 80 million in the opening night, I wouldn't call it a bomb unless the second weekend has a massive drop off ala Batman and Robin.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 15:33:16


From what i've read this movie is suppose to be running in at 3 hours ...yeah that's a little to much bullshit handle.

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 15:40:32


At 3/26/16 03:33 PM, argile wrote: From what i've read this movie is suppose to be running in at 3 hours ...yeah that's a little to much bullshit handle.

As soon as it hit opening screen to credits I timed it 2:25. Same as ultron.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 16:09:43


should've made Guy vs Crippling anxiety and heavy debt

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 17:08:00


At 3/26/16 02:07 PM, BrenTheMan wrote:

That wasn't the only problem I had with it (Kevin Costner as the dad for example) but just something that was painfully obvious.

That's what pissed me off worst about it. I'm not complaining about Kevin Costner. He's a good actor and worked with what they gave him. But they fucked the Kents.
Superman is superman because of how they raised him. They aren't custodians who kept him fed until his destiny kicked in. All the humility that's essential to the character was lost.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 17:08:22


I'm not really a fan of Superman or Batman, so I doubt I'll see it.
DC has trouble making decent Superman titles in the first place.
I saw "Superman Returns," terrible.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 17:41:07


At 3/26/16 05:08 PM, stafffighter wrote: All the humility that's essential to the character was lost.

Yeah...I honestly thought he was kind of a dick in the movie. He didn't feel like a kind old man to me.

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 17:53:01


At 3/26/16 05:41 PM, BrenTheMan wrote:
At 3/26/16 05:08 PM, stafffighter wrote: All the humility that's essential to the character was lost.
Yeah...I honestly thought he was kind of a dick in the movie. He didn't feel like a kind old man to me.

For a good portrayal of the character you don't have to go back any further than Smallville. Jonathan Kent was an honest, humble man who knew Clark was meant for great things but he still treated him like a son.
That's where Man of Steel pissed me off the most. They stripped away Clark Kent to make Superman a clean Christ analg.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 18:00:01


I blame the fact that Jeep sponsored them with the Renegade.

That's not a Jeep it's a Fiat.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 19:53:47


I saw it the day it premiered on cinemas; though I wouldn't say it is on Batman & Robin or FANT4STIC levels of bad, it is a very underwhealming and disappointing film, it is also really long, and the script, oh, the script... though I won't spoil anything for you, it drags, it is underdeveloped, and it tries to be many things. And Affleck as Batman... I honestly think he was miscast, and even though I think he is a good actor, he doesn't comes of shining here. And he has the same expression in almost every scene (but I think that that detail is Zack Snyder's fault as well, since he is the director).
Honestly, I don't think it will flop, but it won't pass the 1 billion in box office.
Warner and DC better pray for SS to be good, because if it isn't, they can kiss their extended universe goodbye...


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 20:52:33


Saw it yesterday! It certainly wasn't terrible, but nothing stellar here. The biggest problem I think this movie had was runtime and lineation. 2 and a half hours is a little excessive for a movie that isn't based off of a J.R.R. Tolkien book, imo. It seems like Zack Snyder likes to run his superhero movies on the long side, and I haven't really seen that pay off yet. Writers seemed to have been dealt a bad hand here, trying to bridge together two monumental characters with their own stories and reason for not liking each other. The result was a big sloppy mess, and forced them to gloss over a lot of the other characters that weren't superheroes or villains.

Despite the mess of trying to make two stories conjoin into one story, as I said, there are some things that could definitely have been cut to keep things chugging along. The little Rocky-style workout scene with Batman and the "public perception" scenes immediately come to mind. However, above all, the dream sequences that Batman was having were completely unnecessary, and I feel that there could have been a better way to convey Batman's overwhelming bitterness towards Superman without it being as flashy.

"Bitterness," by the way, must have been the only word that stuck out in Ben Affleck's mind when he was getting in character. You'd think two of the most powerful people on Earth would have figured out a way to, I don't know, talk things out before one of them becoming borderline obsessed with the other and wanting to kill them. Guess it's a little too early for the Justice League? (Supposedly coming out in 2018)

Minor complaint: Batsuit is really bulky looking. What's up with that?


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 22:07:27


I got increasingly concerned as the trailers came out. Eisenberg's acting did not seem right. I had been thinking they got way the fuck ahead of themselves planning those other movies, too. Wait to make sure this one doesn't suck first, right? Since the only other movie got a mixed reception. It's not like the Incredible Hulk following Iron Man. I hear Afleck was good, though. I never thought Daredevil was his fault and I was actually fine with it when he was announced as Batman, especially after those pics were released of the costume. Well, DC still wins with animated movies. Looking forward to the Killing Joke.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-26 22:28:04


At 3/26/16 09:46 PM, SithCorduroy wrote:
At 3/26/16 09:42 PM, SithCorduroy wrote: That moment when a saturday morning cartoon treats the death of a human being in a more mature, intelligent fashion than a big tentpole Superman movie.
Hell, Justice League treated the death of a big dumb zombie with more gravitas than anything in Batman V Superman.

As great as that one scene is you really need to see the entire set of episodes to know how much it meant. I'm sure you've seen it and I won't spoil it for the other people but it is very powerful and human storytelling.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 00:26:36


It wasn't unwatchable, it started really slow and could have done with less dream segments, but the middle act was decent; Jesse Eisenburg is a terrible Lex Luthor.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 00:32:42


spoiler alert, blah blah blah

Saw it tonight. Thought it wasn't bad; 6/10

It was definitely longer than it should have been, and while Cavill and Affleck played their roles well, the characters themselves were kinda like assholes. Gadot's Wonder Woman (when she was actually Wonder Woman) was bad ass. Rather stupid how she was in "hiding" for 100 years or something. There is also the dream sequences @FinaLee mentioned, and I have a few other minor gripes as well.

Visually, a lot of it was nice.

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 01:21:52


It has been way too hyped.

This is just DC ripping off Marvel. Don't get me wrong, I am a DC fan, always have been. I've also been a HUGE Batman fan and a decent Superman fan. I liked Man of Steel. So with all of that said... yeah we can all see this for what it is. Pandering. Not making a movie to either be fun or tell a story, but simply pandering. It's just one giant teaser for a Justice League movie.

If DC were gonna rip off Marvel, they needed to at least did what made ripping off Marvel work! Nope, we're just gonna shoehorn as much as we can into this movie, hype up a fight where there will be no winner, and then tease you with a new movie like the Avengers.

This is a $400 million trailer.

Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 13:12:02


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=superman2015.htm

It is a good take at first glance but considering how much the movie made on the opening night, you'd expect it to reach at least $200 million by the weekend's end.

So yeah, there is a drop off in the following two days so it's not a good sign. They better hope the drop off won't be that severe so they can still do well enough to be backed up by the international gross. I mean it can't be as bad as that crappy 1997 Batman movie, right?

Along with 2003 Daredevil and Hulk, the latter of which shows that great directors like Ang Lee aren't necessarily a good fit for this kind of genre.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 16:23:05


You know, it's funny now the news left out the fact that the movie's box office gross have quite a drop off in the next two days. I looked up on the gross by the Avengers movies and they held up better in the ensuing two days as well, it's kind of alarming when it comes to that.

It'll be funny if the movie ends up grossing less than Deadpool in the domestic intake.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 16:43:29


At 3/26/16 01:11 PM, Tacticat wrote: what's so fun about two people in underwears fighting each other for unclear reason?

There is nothing fun about this movie. Friends don't friends waste money by watching Batman V Superman.


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At 3/27/16 04:23 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: You know, it's funny now the news left out the fact that the movie's box office gross have quite a drop off in the next two days. I looked up on the gross by the Avengers movies and they held up better in the ensuing two days as well, it's kind of alarming when it comes to that.

It'll be funny if the movie ends up grossing less than Deadpool in the domestic intake.

Ehh, it has made 424million worldwide. Opening weekend. That's more than, avengers, age of ultron or dark knight rises did. It's not dropped at all. Lol,

Overall people hate it, others love it. Make the up your own mind is my advice, The idea of this being a bomb, while in the top 10 opening returns in the box office of all time is completely inaccurate.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 18:43:12


At 3/27/16 06:19 PM, PeterSatera wrote:

Ehh, it has made 424million worldwide. Opening weekend. That's more than, avengers, age of ultron or dark knight rises did. It's not dropped at all. Lol,

Overall people hate it, others love it. Make the up your own mind.

You should have read the post, the figures dropped in each of the following two days significantly. At a glance the weekend gross is great but when you break it down on a day by day figure, it's not really that good. Even the Avengers movies didn't drop off the next day that badly.

Only time will tell whether or not the movie can avoid the next weekend drop off that can hurt it in the long run. It can still make at least 300 mill as it should with that kind of opening and marketing, otherwise...


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I don't know where you're getting you info from. But variety reported 3hours ago the huge intake of the film. It's 4rth top opening worldwide.

As they report. It's still in clear growth. The money made to produce the film has already been made back.

http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/batman-v-superman-reviews-critics-box-office-1201740022/

Also, I checked the cinema earlier today. It's all still fully booked out. Surprisingly on Easter Sunday.


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 20:21:55


At 3/27/16 06:58 PM, PeterSatera wrote: I don't know where you're getting you info from. But variety reported 3hours ago the huge intake of the film. It's 4rth top opening worldwide.

As they report. It's still in clear growth. The money made to produce the film has already been made back.

http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/batman-v-superman-reviews-critics-box-office-1201740022/

Also, I checked the cinema earlier today. It's all still fully booked out. Surprisingly on Easter Sunday.

Boxofficemojo.com

Friday intake domestic gross had 82 mill, then the next day it dropped to 50 mill, then for Sunday 37 mill. If you ask me it's pretty steep.

No doubt the international gross will help back it up but by how much? Remember the cost of marketing doesn't get factored into the budget so the chances are the profit may not even match that of the Avengers movies for all I know (and as I mentioned before, their second day drop off were more steadier in comparison).


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Response to Bat v Sup Biggest bomb of all time 2016-03-27 20:41:53


The film was panned almost universally by critics...BUT, it still raked in millions of dollars at the box-office. The viewer-score for BvS is rather high. Film watchers are saying that while there's a good amount of weaknesses, it's still a good movie overall.

Critics are not normal moviegoers...they review films with a professional eyes, they're not there to watch the movies for a fun or entertaining time.


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