Pentalist Update #35 ----- Hexalist Beta Update #3

Welcome to Bahamut's 35th/3rd beta 2x10k update. These updates have broken the 200k total points barrier now that Afro_Stud has exceeded it.

FIVE NEW Entries: Hades, Kevin, King-Duckford, Semaphore and worldfamous. All besides worldfamous entered with a combination of 10k EXP and 10k saves while worldfamous entered with 10k blams and 10k saves (hey, you don't see one of these often these days).

Status Changes: Cootie and Hacsev from 2x10k to 3x10k.

NEXT UPDATE: 17th April 2011

At 3/20/11 12:04 PM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #35 ----- Hexalist Beta Update #3

Welcome to Bahamut's 35th/3rd beta 2x10k update. These updates have broken the 200k total points barrier now that Afro_Stud has exceeded it.

Congrats to him!

24 | +0 | *** | RemRulzz | 104,241 | 0
25 | +0 | *** | Rule | 103,248 | -9
26 | +1 | **** | Idiot-Finder | 103,169 | +1272
27 | +1 | *** | Auz | 103,017 | +1331

Alright, I gained another rank and if all goes well I should pass RemRulzz, Idiot-Finder and Rule as well on the next update. That will launch me straight into the top 25 and up to the 24th spot. Awesome :)

Thanks to my medals I'm already there on the hexalist :)

Thanks for the update Bahamut!

Thanks for the update

87 \ +7 \ ** \ Pokemonpoeguygcn \ 9,740 \ 12,109 \ 39,255 \ 4,945 \ 220 \ 66,269 \ +1865
78 \ +4 \ ** \ Pokemonpoeguygcn \ 9,740 \ 12,109 \ 39,255 \ 4,945 \ 220 \ 2,960 \ 69,229 \ +2071

Looks like I'm still moving up the lists with a good pace. Guess I'll be Triplelisted for the next update

At 3/20/11 12:04 PM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #35

Thanks for the update Bahamut.

111 +3 *** gamejunkie 21,235 18,257 20,442 1,562 439 61,935 +1453

+3. Not too bad considering I had visitors for 2 of the 4 weeks of this month. But there's a lot of very slow movers ahead though. So with a really good month now, I could hit the Top 100 sometime later this month. If not I will definetely hit it next month.

NEXT UPDATE: 17th April 2011

OH NOES! I hope you all remember to wish me a Happy 44th birthday on the next update. ;-D

At 3/20/11 12:04 PM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #35 ----- Hexalist Beta Update #3

worldfamous entered with 10k blams and 10k saves (hey, you don't see one of these often these days).

thanks for the update, bahamut. nice to finally be on the list.

Pentalist Update #36

Welcome to Bahamut's 36th pentalist update. Yes, that's gfox's favourite number but unfortunately, his lucky number didn't bring us luck here. Due to a recent glitch where everyone temporarily lost all their medals and have to earn a new medal to regain them all, the hexalist update is called off for this month. Heh, good thing the hexalist is only in beta right now.

FOUR NEW Entries: Welcome to AniMetal, DiegoNOX, eriklefish and Monocrom. DiegoNOX and eriklefish entered with 10k EXP and 10k saves while AniMetal and Monocrom entered with 10k EXP and 10k posts.

Status Changes: Joelasticot, Pokemonpoeguygcn and SCTE3 from 2x10k to 3x10k.

LEAVING: SlashFirestorm requested a B/P reset a while ago and is only down to a single 10k stat. Hopefully he returns to the list someday.

NEXT UPDATE: 15th May 2011

At 4/17/11 09:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #36

Blams: 5,340,738 ( -1,416 ) || 14,434 ( -121.57 )

Lol :p

25 | +2 | *** | Auz | 104,376 | +1359

Sweet! I gained two ranks on this update so now I'm in the top 25. Unfortunately I couldn't pass Idiot-Finder. I expected that I would, but he actually gained 18 points more than I did. Oh well, better luck on the next update.

Thanks for another sweet update Bahamut!

At 4/17/11 09:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #36

Welcome to Bahamut's 36th pentalist update. Yes, that's gfox's favourite number but unfortunately, his lucky number didn't bring us luck here. Due to a recent glitch where everyone temporarily lost all their medals and have to earn a new medal to regain them all, the hexalist update is called off for this month. Heh, good thing the hexalist is only in beta right now.

Well, that's a quirky stat - my 36th Blams update and your 36th Pentalist update. Nice work.

Also, it's a real shame about the Hexalist, as I'd gone on to make a gain over over 100 medals since last time, thanks in no small part to Achievement Unlocked 2

LEAVING: SlashFirestorm requested a B/P reset a while ago and is only down to a single 10k stat. Hopefully he returns to the list someday.

A real shame to see such a nice guy leave the list (a rare feat indeed on here), though he is making a decent climb and should be with us again in a year or two. Shorter, if he decides to take up posting in the near future :P

A scant 48 points adrift of Denvish this time around and that will launch me into the top 10 for stat whores on Newgrounds. I guess that I'd better get back to Flash reviewing again, to get me above the 2,000 marker and onwards from there to new heights. I keep saying that I will and then I get all lackadaisical about it, which is never a good thing. Mind you, of the 10 people above me, only illuminate has more reviews than me, so here's hoping.

Might want to get the updater checked over with byteslinger - the code doesn't pull Art Reviews for the list.

I've realised, as I passed 139k a few days back on my spreadsheet and I should just be passing it today, according to the list.

At 4/19/11 02:50 AM, Coop wrote: Might want to get the updater checked over with byteslinger - the code doesn't pull Art Reviews for the list.

I've realised, as I passed 139k a few days back on my spreadsheet and I should just be passing it today, according to the list.

Yeah, I was thinking of bringing up the art review glitch to byteslinger but with the redesign possibly coming out very soon, I feel we should hold on until then. Maybe it only takes a few seconds for her to fix it but I don't want to be pushy.

At 4/17/11 09:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #36

Thanks for the update!

57 | 0 | *** | Haggard | 21,120 | 16,261 | 32,803 | 5,482 | 2,230 | 77,896 | +752

No movement at all. But then again, I'm already in the top 60, so I can't expect to move up on every update anymore.
Plus, the guys around me all have higher paces than me, so I guess it might be possible to lose some spots on this list in the future. :(

It will be only a matter of time before I reach 10000 posts, but I still have not convinced myself whether I should go for 10000 reviews. There is no point leaving 50 two-liners per day just for the sake of reviewing. :S

I'm going to push the next update to Sunday. I was in London over the weekend and only have enough stat updating energy for the B/P list tonight.

At 5/16/11 11:10 AM, Bahamut wrote: I'm going to push the next update to Sunday. I was in London over the weekend and only have enough stat updating energy for the B/P list tonight.

Will we have Art reviews in this list? Also, what about the hexalist as well, will that be up? I've got to make some time to get myself up there with the big movers.

Personally, I do not think that medal points are nearly as important as the other five stats. Thus, they should not be added to the list. At least I will never allow myself to miss a single b/p point because I am too occupied with games that have medal points. :/

At 5/20/11 11:41 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Personally, I do not think that medal points are nearly as important as the other five stats. Thus, they should not be added to the list. At least I will never allow myself to miss a single b/p point because I am too occupied with games that have medal points. :/

It's a good thing I have two separate lists for the time being. I'm sure after a while I'll make medals official, even if it won't please you. I feel medals should be as important as the other stats since you are earning them by playing flash games and we should highly encourage stats that involve you playing flash games (yes, there's movies with medals but they're a minority).

At 5/20/11 11:41 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Personally, I do not think that medal points are nearly as important as the other five stats. Thus, they should not be added to the list.

Well I think it's an awesome addition to the Pentalist. I feel like playing a game to the best of your ability is at least as important than playing it for 2 minutes and cast a vote it. Medal games are starting to become a pretty big deal on this site so why not include it, it's not like those extra points make a huge impact on the total score on the Hexalist. I mean, it's not the amount of points that count for the list, it's the total amount of medals you have. There are maybe 7k medals out there (including 0 pointers), and the #1 b/p'er (Afro_Stud) has over 170k points.

I don't mind if you don't like it, I just want Bahamut to know there are people who really appreciate this extra stat on the list. =)

At 5/20/11 12:03 PM, Nijsse wrote: I don't mind if you don't like it, I just want Bahamut to know there are people who really appreciate this extra stat on the list. =)

I just hope the top of the hexalist won't be dominated by medal point gainers because there are so many easy medals around. With games like Achievement Unlocked 2, it's pretty easy to get a quick 40-50 stat points for this list.

Right now there aren't many of such games around yet, but as we get more and more of them in the future the medal stat might become a little bit 'cheap' compared to other stats.

At 5/20/11 01:31 PM, Auz wrote: I just hope the top of the hexalist won't be dominated by medal point gainers because there are so many easy medals around. With games like Achievement Unlocked 2, it's pretty easy to get a quick 40-50 stat points for this list.

Right now there aren't many of such games around yet, but as we get more and more of them in the future the medal stat might become a little bit 'cheap' compared to other stats.

That won't happen. Medals have been around for almost 2 years now (really close actually), and the guy with the most medals has ~5500 of them. Games like AU2 are really rare, and even those games don't give you more points than, let's say, b/p'ing for an entire game. I don't think collecting medals will ever be faster than voting on new flash. Having said that, both a Pentalist and a Hexalist are fine by me, I'm just happy to see an update every once in a while. =)

Medals need to be put on the 'main' list the moment 10,000 medals become available to collect.

It's still a stat officially. Better brush up on your gaming skills DoD.

At 5/21/11 03:45 AM, Gagsy wrote: Medals need to be put on the 'main' list the moment 10,000 medals become available to collect.

It's still a stat officially. Better brush up on your gaming skills DoD.

I wouldn't mind it personally,would give me somethin to shoot for. :p

At 5/21/11 10:00 PM, Aci6 wrote: There are a lot of games with medals though for doing very little, soon there will be that many that it'll be another easy stat to 10K along with posts, though I guess it would require a lot less effort. Just a thought, I'm not against adding them to the list at all.

I must look at it in a different light. To me, collecting 10,000 medals is more of a challenge and a fun one to boot.

At 3/20/11 12:04 PM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #35 ----- Hexalist Beta Update #3

Ooo. Hexalist Beta.

Welcome to Bahamut's 35th/3rd beta 2x10k update. These updates have broken the 200k total points barrier now that Afro_Stud has exceeded it.

Thanks for ze update. So close to a lovely 3/21 in American date format.

NEXT UPDATE: 17th April 2011

So close to a lovely 4/20 or 4/21 in American date format as well. Ah well. :D

18 3-star 19,240 18,387 61,008 _9,553 _6,095 114,283 +1300 FattyWhale
19 4-star 30,610 36,000 34,256 12,083 __,767 113,716 +_268 gfoxcook
20 4-star 28,230 27,777 41,927 13,466 _1,745 113,145 +_768 iscrulz

Egad, I'm surrounded by super stat gainers. Oh well. And there's a 37 in my pentalist point total... oh well, at least it was on update #35 and not #36. :D

18 3-star 19,240 18,387 61,008 _9,553 _6,095 __,772 115,055 +1300 FattyWhale
19 4-star 30,610 36,000 34,256 12,083 __,767 __,_52 113,768 +_268 gfoxcook
20 4-star 28,230 27,777 41,927 13,466 _1,745 __,314 113,459 +_768 iscrulz

lololol. I am experiencing feelings of inadequacy that I thought could never exceed those I feel from my tiny review total.

Consider me SCHOOLED.

At 4/17/11 09:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #36

YES!!!! YES!!!!!! </M. Bison>

Welcome to Bahamut's 36th pentalist update. Yes, that's gfox's favourite number but unfortunately, his lucky number didn't bring us luck here. Due to a recent glitch where everyone temporarily lost all their medals and have to earn a new medal to regain them all, the hexalist update is called off for this month. Heh, good thing the hexalist is only in beta right now.

You could say it brought HIM (i.e. ME) luck, if not you/them, though, since I'm not that big a fan of the hexalist (for now). #;-}>

But yes, only beta, after all.

LEAVING: SlashFirestorm requested a B/P reset a while ago and is only down to a single 10k stat. Hopefully he returns to the list someday.

Awww. Why did he want a b/p reset, anyway?

NEXT UPDATE: 15th May 2011

You were gonna post the 37th update 1 day after my 1st wedding anniversary. What a dreadful present, thank you thank you THANK YOU for delaying the update a week. #;-}>

12 3-star 26,390 55,270 40,796 _9,898 __,_68 132,422 +__40 ReconRebel
13 4-star 24,000 40,000 37,777 25,006 _1,234 128,017 +_587 Bahamut
14 3-star 19,305 34,488 71,900 __,__0 __,__6 125,699 +1150 courtday
15 4-star 17,450 14,993 57,790 35,196 __,150 125,579 +2177 Gagsy
16 3-star 24,920 45,072 51,540 _1,300 __,_54 122,886 +_916 Ehwaz003
17 5-star 23,960 22,189 36,329 18,419 19,739 120,636 +1074 XwaynecoltX
18 3-star 19,520 18,449 61,535 _9,565 _6,096 115,165 +_882 FattyWhale
19 4-star 30,900 36,000 34,256 12,083 __,766 114,005 +_289 gfoxcook
20 4-star 28,500 27,778 42,168 13,464 _1,744 113,654 +_509 iscrulz
21 3-star 27,800 59,535 22,786 _3,085 __,_82 113,288 +_281 MPA
22 4-star 17,210 39,594 28,981 25,005 __,369 111,159 -____1 BonusStage

Well, that's just peachy... look at all of that. From 12 to 22, I only exceed the rate of Recon, MPA, and Bonus. And only MPA and Bonus are below me. And hell, MPA was only 8 points behind me for the month. O_O

iscrulz is gonna pass me soon, and that'll be #20. And soon after I'll probably have to get used to not being in the top 20 anymore, but the top 25. Fair enough. And after that, there's slipping to #36 to look forward to, and #42... but ugh, 37 in between.... and after 42... egad. Nothing but horribleness lies beyond the top 50, like with any list. Though at least there's no official top 50 pentalist on NG. #;-}>

I can't do anything about falling in the blam listings, very little about falling in the save listings and the overall b/p listings... but I CAN very well do something about falling here. I either need to post more or review more... or medal more, once that's a stat. I MUST DO THIS. I must. ;_;

At 2/25/11 09:24 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 2/21/11 10:17 AM, illuminate wrote: So the Hexalist is the truth now huh,oh the possibilities. ^_^

Ah, you're cool with the idea now? I remember talking to you about adding medals to the lists and you weren't keen on the idea. Maybe the fact that I've made an individual list to count medals instead of shoving them to the standard updates makes both parties happy?

I'd say that could be part of it... which brings up an interesting idea I actually had from reading your exchange with DoD later on in the thread, so I'll return to the thought in a bit (very bottom of the post, actually, 'twas the most recent thing I wanted to comment on, it turns out).

At 2/22/11 01:07 AM, gfoxcook wrote: Thanks for the update.

Hexalist... why not Sexalist? Much better title. #;-}>

Sexalist? That just sounds perverted.

That was my point, you silly dense-acting dragon. :D

And besides, I thought Hexalist was a name to use considering Pentalist means five and a pentagon has five sides. A hexagon has six sides so I felt it was appropriate to call it thew Hexalist.

Yes, yes, but of course. But you do realise they could have just as easily called it the Sexagon when they were naming it. They were just a buncha prudes back then, that's all. #;-}>

I think you know what I think about adding medals to the list already. I'd prefer each of the review types be given their own column and jump all the way to an Octolist or whatever.

Octalist? Good god no! If you really wanted reviews to be separated, we'll eventually have a ninth stat for whenever the Lit. Portal is launched. I don't want the list to be swarmed with individual review stats and I'm sure neither would the majority be happy with that.

Hm. Might make an interesting reviews-only list type, though.

Oh, and if we had EIGHT different stats for the list, it would be Octalist, not Octolist. Even Jack Black defines octagons and there's always an A in octagon, octalist, Octavarium, whatever.

Yet it's Octopus, not Octapus, so clearly both prefixes exist, damnit!

If you're going to add medals (even just count, not "points/score") then you might as well add things like "flash/audio/etc. portal submission count" as well.

Counting submission count is even worse than adding review responses. Making a stat for submission count would do the site no favours.

Well, I'm definitely glad to hear you say that, at least.

At 2/28/11 08:27 AM, Auz wrote:

At 2/28/11 06:33 AM, Kisuke wrote: Man, sure is great being in the quadlist club. 8D

When is the last time we had another quadlister?

If I checked correctly it was BaronVonBadGuy on the 3rd of October 2010 update.

It's quite a rare achievement still. Since gfoxcook's last update three years ago, only eight more people have become quadlisted on top of the sixteen we already had back then. But before 2007 it was even more rare since there were only six quadlisted users at that point.

Anyway, I'll probably be joining the quadlisted ranks as well later this year. Can't wait :)

Good ol' quadlisted status. Expanding the list columns is only gonna decrease the allure of it, though, but... then again, I did that myself to triplelisters and quadlisters when I moved the list from 3x to 4x and to 5x... so, it's only right that the process happen again. THE MORE STATS, THE MERRIER. That's what I tell myself so I don't bitch too much at Bahamut about all the new review types and the medals and all. :)

At 3/12/11 08:55 PM, Bahamut wrote:

At 2/25/11 09:52 AM, illuminate wrote: Yeah at first i thought it insane to make the milestone 10,000 individual medals but with there being many more games out there with medals coming in (not sure what the exact maximum is as of now) it's actually pretty good and though it will take some time it will feel much more rewarding rather than just getting 10k Medal Points.

Right now, skiller12 has over 4.6k medals. We've had the medal system for over 2 years now so at this rate it'll be another 2 years until we get someone with 10k medals. Still more doable than reviews methinks.

Hahah. So true. I can see myself getting to 10,000 medals (being at 50ish now) if I started using the portal more than I do now, even if nowhere near as much as I did in '03 and '04.... but I can't ever see myself getting to 10,000 reviews (being at 750ish now). 1,000 will be hard enough to do someday. lol, "someday." Even the way I talk about that stat speaks volumes itself.

At 4/17/11 03:02 PM, Coop wrote:

At 4/17/11 09:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: Pentalist Update #36

Well, that's a quirky stat - my 36th Blams update and your 36th Pentalist update. Nice work.

Quirky? More like GODLY, am I right?

A scant 48 points adrift of Denvish this time around and that will launch me into the top 10 for stat whores on Newgrounds. I guess that I'd better get back to Flash reviewing again, to get me above the 2,000 marker and onwards from there to new heights. I keep saying that I will and then I get all lackadaisical about it, which is never a good thing. Mind you, of the 10 people above me, only illuminate has more reviews than me, so here's hoping.

See, even a super-reviewer like Coop isn't to 2000 yet, and he got to 1000 ages ago, or so it feels.

ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

At 5/16/11 11:10 AM, Bahamut wrote: I'm going to push the next update to Sunday. I was in London over the weekend and only have enough stat updating energy for the B/P list tonight.

HALLELUJAH. The world didn't end yesterday and I was spared the 37th update on my anniversary weekend/before I could post in here. THANK YE JEBUS!

At 5/20/11 11:49 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 5/20/11 11:41 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Personally, I do not think that medal points are nearly as important as the other five stats. Thus, they should not be added to the list. At least I will never allow myself to miss a single b/p point because I am too occupied with games that have medal points. :/

It's a good thing I have two separate lists for the time being. I'm sure after a while I'll make medals official, even if it won't please you. I feel medals should be as important as the other stats since you are earning them by playing flash games and we should highly encourage stats that involve you playing flash games (yes, there's movies with medals but they're a minority).

Since it wouldn't increase stat pull time, you could always make a hexa (and beyond) list and then also a "classic" pentalist. Just post both files separately, and boom. Everyone's happy.

Just a thought. I get the feeling DoD cares more than I do, but figured I'd put that out there.

At 5/20/11 01:51 PM, Nijsse wrote:

At 5/20/11 01:31 PM, Auz wrote: I just hope the top of the hexalist won't be dominated by medal point gainers because there are so many easy medals around. With games like Achievement Unlocked 2, it's pretty easy to get a quick 40-50 stat points for this list.

Right now there aren't many of such games around yet, but as we get more and more of them in the future the medal stat might become a little bit 'cheap' compared to other stats.

That won't happen. Medals have been around for almost 2 years now (really close actually), and the guy with the most medals has ~5500 of them. Games like AU2 are really rare, and even those games don't give you more points than, let's say, b/p'ing for an entire game. I don't think collecting medals will ever be faster than voting on new flash. Having said that, both a Pentalist and a Hexalist are fine by me, I'm just happy to see an update every once in a while. =)

Oh well, for now we don't really have to worry about it as it will still be a long time before medals will be about as easy to collect as BP. For the rest I'm okay with the Hexalist.

I just hope Bahamut will also continue posting updates of the Pentalist after medals have become an 'official stat'. Even if it's only twice a year or somehting.

At 5/22/11 06:53 AM, gfoxcook wrote: I can't do anything about falling in the blam listings, very little about falling in the save listings and the overall b/p listings... but I CAN very well do something about falling here. I either need to post more or review more... or medal more, once that's a stat. I MUST DO THIS. I must. ;_;

From where you are right now, medals will be by far the easiest stat to boost if you play the right games. As I've already stated above, try playing Achievement Unlocked 2. That should be an easy 40-50 points, 60 if you decide to play the game to the end.

At 5/22/11 07:01 AM, gfoxcook wrote:

Octalist? Good god no! If you really wanted reviews to be separated, we'll eventually have a ninth stat for whenever the Lit. Portal is launched. I don't want the list to be swarmed with individual review stats and I'm sure neither would the majority be happy with that.

Hm. Might make an interesting reviews-only list type, though.

Sounds like a sweet idea.

I know Aci6 was fiddling around with a total reviews list recently. This might make a good suggestion. I'd count 1,000 reviews as a rank upgrade though, not 10,000.

At 2/28/11 08:27 AM, Auz wrote:

At 2/28/11 06:33 AM, Kisuke wrote:

If I checked correctly it was BaronVonBadGuy on the 3rd of October 2010 update.

It's quite a rare achievement still. Since gfoxcook's last update three years ago, only eight more people have become quadlisted on top of the sixteen we already had back then. But before 2007 it was even more rare since there were only six quadlisted users at that point.

Anyway, I'll probably be joining the quadlisted ranks as well later this year. Can't wait :)

Good ol' quadlisted status. Expanding the list columns is only gonna decrease the allure of it, though, but... then again, I did that myself to triplelisters and quadlisters when I moved the list from 3x to 4x and to 5x... so, it's only right that the process happen again.

True. I do suppose we're going to see more and more triplelisted and quadlisted users in the feature with the entries Experience, Saves, Blams and Medals. Although Blams are very tough to get nowadays, so maybe it's only fair that newer users get a better chance to become triplelisted.

THE MORE STATS, THE MERRIER. That's what I tell myself so I don't bitch too much at Bahamut about all the new review types and the medals and all. :)

True. Fortunately I can actually see myself getting 10,000 medals someday. Probably pretty soon compared to other users. I'm already at about 2,000 while I only play a medal game about once or twice a week.

Pentalisted status on the Hexalist would still be awesome.

At 5/22/11 07:11 AM, Auz wrote:

At 5/22/11 06:53 AM, gfoxcook wrote: I can't do anything about falling in the blam listings, very little about falling in the save listings and the overall b/p listings... but I CAN very well do something about falling here. I either need to post more or review more... or medal more, once that's a stat. I MUST DO THIS. I must. ;_;

From where you are right now, medals will be by far the easiest stat to boost if you play the right games. As I've already stated above, try playing Achievement Unlocked 2. That should be an easy 40-50 points, 60 if you decide to play the game to the end.

I think many users can't imagin just how huge the number "10,000" is. It is not and never will be easy to collect 10,000 medals, let alone collect them all in one day. Even if we have Achievement Unlocked 1, 2, 3, ... 10 each with 60 medals. That would only be 600 medals, then you still need 9,400 medals until you hit the big 10k. And mind you, you have to play all 10 games until the end to collect the 60 medals, that's very time consuming, even with easy games like AU.
A game with 60 medals is just a drop in the ocean, really.

Also I cannot see users "spamming" medals, just to get on this list. Right now, no one of the users that are near the top of the medal points list posted in here, so I don't think they are even interested in this list at all. Of course that might change in the future, but right now I don't think this list has too much meaning to them.

Well hello there, gentlemen.

I'd just like to point out how lovely it is that Wi/Ht? member #36 (:::nods and winks meaningfully at Auz:::) and Wi/Ht? member #38 (:::tips cap to Haggard:::) have both posted here in the pentalist topic right before Bahamut posts the update # that shall not be named, and just happens to be BRACKETED BY YOUR TWO WI/HT? NUMBERS.

Freaky-deaky, Captain Peaky.

But perhaps a good antidote to the coming horribleness. See you guys once update #38 is posted! #;-}>

At 5/22/11 07:37 AM, Haggard wrote:

At 5/22/11 07:11 AM, Auz wrote: From where you are right now, medals will be by far the easiest stat to boost if you play the right games. As I've already stated above, try playing Achievement Unlocked 2. That should be an easy 40-50 points, 60 if you decide to play the game to the end.

I think many users can't imagin just how huge the number "10,000" is. It is not and never will be easy to collect 10,000 medals, let alone collect them all in one day. Even if we have Achievement Unlocked 1, 2, 3, ... 10 each with 60 medals. That would only be 600 medals, then you still need 9,400 medals until you hit the big 10k. And mind you, you have to play all 10 games until the end to collect the 60 medals, that's very time consuming, even with easy games like AU.
A game with 60 medals is just a drop in the ocean, really.

Well, I fully agree that 10,000 Medals is still a great achievement that shouldn't be ignored. I'm just trying to point out that gathering medals doesn't have to require that much more effort than gathering BP.

The thing is: With BP you are limited to the amount of submissions that get uploaded. Sure, clicking the vote button might only require a second, but then you have to wait for 5, 10, 15, 30 minutes before the next submission is uploaded. With medals you are merely limited to the total amount of medals available, but this number keeps on increasing and new medal games get submitted more and more rapidly.

If you spend a whole day BP hunting, you'll end up with ... 70, 80, 100 BP maybe if you're lucky. If you however spend a whole medal hunting, you can probably get five times that amount if you do it efficiently. Efficiently as in: Don't bother with the difficult, time consuming medals and perhaps play several games at the same time if possible (if games involve a lot of waiting time, for example Toss the Turtle type of games).

So basically, Medal collecting might require a bit more effort, but it can require much less time than boosting any other stat. Now I'm not against the Hexalist. I think that it should be made, but this is just one point of criticism I have against including medals.

At 5/22/11 08:26 AM, gfoxcook wrote: Well hello there, gentlemen.

I'd just like to point out how lovely it is that Wi/Ht? member #36 (:::nods and winks meaningfully at Auz:::) and Wi/Ht? member #38 (:::tips cap to Haggard:::) have both posted here in the pentalist topic right before Bahamut posts the update # that shall not be named, and just happens to be BRACKETED BY YOUR TWO WI/HT? NUMBERS.

It almost makes sense!

At 5/22/11 08:56 AM, Auz wrote:

At 5/22/11 07:37 AM, Haggard wrote:

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I'd argue that it takes considerably longer to get medal points than B/P points though. I've invested considerably more time in playing medal games over the last 2 years than I have B/Ping, yet I have collected fewer than 3000 medals and something like 20,000 B/P points. Not even close! While you can theoretically work through all of the medal games in turn and pick up a mountain of points in any one day, whilst being limited to 70 or 80 B/P points in the same time, the fact is that most medal points require much more effort to achieve than that, and only plucking out the easiest would currently leave you with only 1000 or so medals. Well short of 10,000.

Looking at the top medal gainers list the most anyone gets in one week is around 8000 points, which is likely only a few hundred medals, and only achievable for people that haven't played medal games in months. I spent two weeks recently picking up medals that I had missed in a 3 month quiet spell and collected fewer than 500 medals total- not dissimilar to the amount of B/P I collected in the same two weeks.