This is a repost of the original thread because, well, two reasons really:

1. The old thread hasn't seen a new post since August of last year, and I'd think it total abuse of my modship to bump it.

2. I don't think it'd do any good because the big problem with the old thread was that it simply had a snazzy title that didn't tell anybody what it was about. My bad entirely there, so, repost time.

The Endless Crew was founded in 2002 as a way for NG comic book fans to gather and discuss all things comics, books, movies, animation, creators, ANYTHING to do with the medium of comics is fair game in this crew. In 2003 we opened up a forum and website, which can be found at www.theendlesscrew.com, or if you'd rather just directly hit the forum it's www.theendlesscrew.com/bbs.

Now for the general house rules:

1. All NG BBS rules apply, and since I'm a mod, you can expect a bloody swift kick in the ass if you break 'em.

2. Debate is good, I love debate, spirited debate is also great. Flameing, name calling, and making somebody's general enjoyment of a topic is not. Not everyone likes the same things, it's a fact of life. Not everyone also has the same knowledge of minutae and continuity or story detail, that's fine too. Be respectful of your fellow members, as long as they aren't being disruptive or derailing the topic, there's no reason to treat them badly. Failure to comply will result in your expulsion from the fun (and we all know that's no idle threat from someone like me :D).

3. Please try to be respectful about spoilers. Many many folks like to read or enjoy something fresh without knowing what's coming up next. If, say for example you've just read the newest issue of Buffy the day it came out, please post *SPOILER WARNING/ALERT/FUCKIFYOUDON'TWANTTOKNOWWH AT'SGONNAHAPPENSTOPREADINGNOW!!!* before discussing plot details. A spoiler warning shall remain in effect for at least two days after the work has hit (so let's say Wednesday and Thursday, since Wednesday is usually new comic day if you're buying from a DM store supplied by Diamond, and by Friday it's all fair game).

I think that's about all I've got for the immediate moment, have fun, enjoy, and I hope to see lots of people become new additions to the existing gang :)

Any comic book fan worth his salt would have known what "The Endless" meant straight off the bat.

sooooo... could i join?

d00d, I want to join.

Is this comics as in the newspaper, or just comics in comicbooks, either way can I join?

I was apart of the original not too long ago. Sure. I'll join this one. Years looking good for Marvel, the only company that doesn't bore me with comics.

O no. Noobs are allready joining. Sigh. So, question: Did you accidently delete the old crew or delete it due to oldness...Probably the second one. I had to write about somthing...

/join.

Exactly how big of a comic fan do you have to be to qualify? I was a casual reader back in my early teens, and I'm starting to get back into it, starting with Marvel's Civil War. I'm currently reading up on all the issues of Civil War Chronicles. I was about to start catching up on Spider-Man, but since the whole One More Day/Brand New Day storyline...I just don't care. I'm looking at picking up some Planet Hulk/World War Hulk issues as well.

My comic knowledge is mostly limited to Marvel. My collection isn't large either, but like I said, I'm trying to get back into it.

At 3/7/08 07:18 PM, PureLionHeart wrote: Exactly how big of a comic fan do you have to be to qualify? I was a casual reader back in my early teens, and I'm starting to get back into it, starting with Marvel's Civil War. I'm currently reading up on all the issues of Civil War Chronicles. I was about to start catching up on Spider-Man, but since the whole One More Day/Brand New Day storyline...I just don't care. I'm looking at picking up some Planet Hulk/World War Hulk issues as well.

My comic knowledge is mostly limited to Marvel. My collection isn't large either, but like I said, I'm trying to get back into it.

Civil War is a great place to start. But you should look into House Of M and all the side stories that go along with it. Same with Secret War. I plan on getting Luke Cage's Marvel Max comic series soon along with Maximum Carnage.

ok, lemme just address all the posts we've got thus far quick from the business like perspective:

1. There is no minimum knowledge requirement to join, it's open to anyone and everyone who likes comics, you don't have to be hardcore to be here. Also feel free to ask questions of myself or your fellow members. To me the purpose of a group like this at it's best is that everybody reads different things, and maybe somebody is reading a book right now you might dig but had no clue existed. Everyone is welcome.

2. Newspaper strips are included, infact the birth of the comic book as it has come to be known was early publishers simply putting newspaper strips in book form, so discussion of that nature is definitely welcome here.

3. If you'd really like to join, please include some information about what books you like, shows you watch, or publishers you dig. Just something more substantial then "can I join?" so we know your serious and not just somebody who has to join every club on the site. Kthx

4. You don't have to join the forum to join the crew. I really do hope a lot of you will sign up with us at the forum since it's a very relaxed atmosphere and I'd like to see more people around there, but if that isn't your cup of tea, that's fine just hang with us here on NG. I'm already encouraging many of the forum regs and old members to pop by here as well so that it's more like one big community rather then having two disparate groups.

Just got in the last volume of Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol today, a new Hellboy novel (the novels are quite good and very faithful to the spirit of the character), another volume of Powers, and the last volume of the last Exiles series. I am a happy camper reading wise right now :)

Personally though, my tastes run more to the classical stuff these days, Marvel kind of lost me after the god awfulness of House of ATM, the questionable ending of Civil War, and the general "Tony Stark is a dick" stuff. I still read Daredevil religiously, and Exiles in trade, but that's about it. I've been moved more towards DC's product in the last few years. Dug Identity Crisis, thought Infinite Crisis was built up super well, had a hell of a first issue..great follow up with 52, but we are definitely limping into Final Crisis as it's obvious Countdown could have been done in way less issues then it has been.

At 3/7/08 05:27 PM, mooguy wrote: O no. Noobs are allready joining. Sigh. So, question: Did you accidently delete the old crew or delete it due to oldness...Probably the second one. I had to write about somthing...

/join.

The big issue with the old one was a lot of people really weren't sure what the hell it was. In trying to give it a cool name that was comic booky without just being "The Comics Club" I forgot to actually tell people what it was in the title. It hasn't seen a new post since August, so I thought it best to just make a new one with a better title and see how that faired. So far so good.

First NG post in ages, I wonder if i still have over 5000?

I can't believe it, but the Watchmen movie looks okay. But then, looks can be very deceiving when it comes to movies, and nothing could ever top the pure awesomeness that is Watchmen in comic form.

Looking forward to getting back to the store and catching up on Fables, hopefully the final Y: The Last Man trade is out soon, its sad to see such a great series end, but it had to happen eventually.

Also: Deadpool is no longer the feature of any marvel comics. Whats up with that?

At 3/8/08 12:55 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: Also: Deadpool is no longer the feature of any marvel comics. Whats up with that?

He wasn't hugely featured in Messiah Complex I imagine. I think we're back at that point in time where all the X-Books have to be serious and connect to each other and crap. Deadpool is enjoyable, but he wouldn't work having to interact with the rest of X-People on a regular basis methinks.

At 3/7/08 09:27 PM, Mast3rMind wrote: Civil War is a great place to start. But you should look into House Of M and all the side stories that go along with it. Same with Secret War. I plan on getting Luke Cage's Marvel Max comic series soon along with Maximum Carnage.

Civil War was the big event that got me back into things again, actually. As soon as I read about it from a friend, briefly summarized as "Superhero versus superhero with no real evil side.", I was hooked and had to check it out.

I've been unable to get any House Of M copies (Lack of money, any comic shops in my area), but I've read up on it and am familiar. Very cool and necessary idea as far as I'm concerned. Frankly, I didn't even know about Secret Wars before this moment, but sounds pretty sweet. Those all look like ones I'd enjoy, as well as Maximum Carnage. I'm also looking at "The Other" story of Spider-Man.

At 3/8/08 12:55 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: Also: Deadpool is no longer the feature of any marvel comics. Whats up with that?

I think he's getting a new series this summer, same as Cable after the end of Cable & Deadpool. That was another one I started to get into half-way through. Couldn't find other copies but the one issue I did pick up (#38), it gave me plenty of good laughs. Plus, Bob, Agent of HYDRA FTW.

He'll be featured in the upcoming Wolverine movie, though.

Room for a little one?

I'm not a hardcore fan of anything, but I delve in and out of various comics. I like the traditional stuff like X-men, Spiderman, Batman and the like( though I really dislike SUperman jsut because I find the entire concept irritating), and I've also latley been borrowing some of the Preacher comics off of a mate of mine and I really do enjoy them to the point I've been meaning to try and get a hold of them myself. I also like what I've read of the Adventures of Luther Arkwright and other suff of Bryan Talbot's.

I also want to try and get into some other series, I tend to prerfer comics which have a bit of a dark feel to them if you know what I mean? Less ' ZOMG SUPERMAN!' more giritty realism and dark sense of humour in places, so if anyone can make any suggestions on stuff I might like that would be ace.

So am I ok to join?

At 3/8/08 03:46 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: I also want to try and get into some other series, I tend to prerfer comics which have a bit of a dark feel to them if you know what I mean? Less ' ZOMG SUPERMAN!' more giritty realism and dark sense of humour in places, so if anyone can make any suggestions on stuff I might like that would be ace.

Keep reading Preacher, it's awesome.

Also, anything that I mentioned in my previous post is gold for non superhero comics: Fables, Y: The Last Man, Watchmen (MANDATORY READING FOR ALL COMIC FANS), and I'll do Stafff a favour and mention another great Ennis title: Punisher. Pick up either the MAX or marvel knights print of punisher for some very gritty, and occasionally humourous stories.

As to Deadpool, well my subscription to C&D transferred straight to the new Cable series (which to be honest I don't mind), but DP was always a great counterweight to the whole X-men universe, able to parody current occurences, and add some lighthearted stabbing to the mix.

At 3/8/08 05:39 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: Keep reading Preacher, it's awesome.

It is rather. I've read the first two collections of the comic (Gone to Texas and To the End of the world) and I've got the next one ( Proud Americans?) on loan from a mate.

Also, anything that I mentioned in my previous post is gold for non superhero comics: Fables, Y: The Last Man, Watchmen (MANDATORY READING FOR ALL COMIC FANS)

I've heard of Watchmen, isn't there a movie coming out of it at some point?

and I'll do Stafff a favour and mention another great Ennis title: Punisher. Pick up either the MAX or marvel knights print of punisher for some very gritty, and occasionally humourous stories.

Ennis did Punisher? I was not aware of that. Shall deifnitley look into that, I like Punisher as a charachter adn a concept from what I've heard of it.

1. Garth Ennis is currently wrapping up his Punisher run of almost ten years and it's a damn shame. He's crafted the character into something I really like and i just hope someone else will be able to bring a good voice to it because the Punisher is one of those characters there's no "kinda good" way to write.

2. Yes there's a Watchmen movie coming.It's being made by the guy who did 300. Alan Moore signed away his money and name on the film out of simple disinterest but I'd do the same if I saw these costumes. It's set in 1985, there was no Matrix to rip off.

When it comes to Frank Castle, it's either Ennis, or it ain't good.

Although, I didn't mind the way Frank Tieri handled him during the Deadpool crossover, so maybe there's hope yet.

At 3/8/08 09:16 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: I've heard of Watchmen, isn't there a movie coming out of it at some point?

It seems like a useless movie, since the comic was so much about comic books.

I'm kinda curious as to how they'd manage to do Dr. Manhattan, though.

At 3/8/08 10:32 PM, SevenSeize wrote: I finished the Sandman series, which I loved, and I am starting Preacher.

Everyone should read Sandman at least once in their life.

I am also addicted to Frank Miller. I LOVE the Sin City books.

Sin City was the first thing to recommend that came to mind. I think you might also love 100 bullets if crime fiction is something you dig. Everyone should check out Morrison's Doom Patrol, especially since it just finished being collected, fucking great and trippy stuff.

For great straight super hero, and stafff at least will back me here, can't go wrong with Starman.

At 3/8/08 02:23 AM, PureLionHeart wrote: I've been unable to get any House Of M copies (Lack of money, any comic shops in my area), but I've read up on it and am familiar. Very cool and necessary idea as far as I'm concerned. Frankly, I didn't even know about Secret Wars before this moment, but sounds pretty sweet. Those all look like ones I'd enjoy, as well as Maximum Carnage. I'm also looking at "The Other" story of Spider-Man.

Yeah, I don't care what anyone says. Civil War and the side books are incredibly awesome man. Especially Frontline, the Two Spiderman ones, and Iron Man's as well. Also check out Road To Civil War when you get a chance. The Other is also good. It explains why he didn't have the need to use web shooters anymore and I think showed his awesome battle against Morlun.

He'll be featured in the upcoming Wolverine movie, though.

I also heard Gambit was supposed to be in that movie for some reason.

At 3/8/08 11:45 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: For great straight super hero, and stafff at least will back me here, can't go wrong with Starman.

Can't forget Animal Man (the Grant Morrison one).

Though, that's not STRAIGHT super hero.

At 3/8/08 06:02 PM, stafffighter wrote: 1. Garth Ennis is currently wrapping up his Punisher run of almost ten years and it's a damn shame. He's crafted the character into something I really like and i just hope someone else will be able to bring a good voice to it because the Punisher is one of those characters there's no "kinda good" way to write.

10 years? Well that should give me plenty of stuff to choose from then. I get my student loan through in a few weeks ( I think) so I'll have to try and pick some stuff up.

2. Yes there's a Watchmen movie coming.It's being made by the guy who did 300. Alan Moore signed away his money and name on the film out of simple disinterest but I'd do the same if I saw these costumes. It's set in 1985, there was no Matrix to rip off.

Judging from those costumes ( with no real knowledge of Watchmen to go by) I can't help but think that it will either be very sucky as the costmes look a bit cheesy to me, or it will be excellent and very artistic.

At 3/9/08 01:01 AM, Mast3rMind wrote:

He'll be featured in the upcoming Wolverine movie, though.

I also heard Gambit was supposed to be in that movie for some reason.

What confuses me is Dominic Monoghan (sp?) as Beak. I can see how it would work, with a pool of freaks, but I mean, thats a relatively new character. Why would they feel the need to slot him into to a prequel to the X-men movies? He didn't even exist until after X-men 1 came out!

Starman is a wonderful superhero book in that it takes the creation of the super hero and turns it into a relatable young man's journey for self identity. Plus he flies around with a magic wand that shoots lazers. The third collection is hard as fuck to find. I couldn't find a copy anywhere on line but some dutiful searching in the back shelves of my local shop turned one up. That's one of the true beauties of collecting. I can't help but think that Jack Knight would hate eBay.

At 3/9/08 04:33 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: What confuses me is Dominic Monoghan (sp?) as Beak. I can see how it would work, with a pool of freaks, but I mean, thats a relatively new character. Why would they feel the need to slot him into to a prequel to the X-men movies? He didn't even exist until after X-men 1 came out!

It doesn't surprise me much though. If they could make Jean Grey pull a Scarlett Witch in X-Men 3 by killing nearly every unnamed mutant then this would be the norm. Plus, since this is a movie for the masses, they could play off of people's lack of knowledge of characters and origins man. Simple. The only Marvel movies I want to see are...

Luke Cage
Cloak & Dagger
Deathlok
Iron Fist
Iron Man

And Captain America I guess. The movies I'm not looking forward to seeing are...

Namor
Thor
Incredible Hulk
Silver Surfer
Green Lanturn
New Superman Movie
Shazam

There were some more on my list, can't remember them all.

At 3/9/08 08:09 PM, SevenSeize wrote: Crime Fiction is pure awesome.

Oh, read Powers dear, Powers is friggin awesome fun stuff. Two homicide detectives investigate super powered related murders, it's also got a lot more layers then that, meditation on celebrity, responsibility, power, mythology, cool shit like that. Not a terribly deep over your head kind of thing, really fun.

Fun is the word when it comes to Powers really. Good cop styled stories in a super powered world.

I would advise against expecting anything similar to sin city though. Just a warning.

At 3/10/08 03:28 AM, Mr-Silv3r wrote: I would advise against expecting anything similar to sin city though. Just a warning.

I couldn't read Sin City.

The art style hurt my eyes to the extreme.

I read the first few pages, and gave up.

Another good cop based super hero comic is Top 10, though it didn't go for long.