Am I the only one who's absolutely disgusted that it's still taboo in most cases to show the image of your own damn bodies?

At 5/30/06 11:53 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Am I the only one who's absolutely disgusted that it's still taboo in most cases to show the image of your own damn bodies?

It's not a case what YOU feel is disgusting. Most people still abhere to old values where showing ones body in public is still uncouth social behavior. I don't see what the big deal is about nudity, but I respect the people who don't wish to see it out in the public medium.

At 5/30/06 11:53 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Am I the only one who's absolutely disgusted that it's still taboo in most cases to show the image of your own damn bodies?

Well now that all depends. Do you mean like 'Birth of Venus' and 'David' ? Because they're pretty accepted. Or do you mean Playboy and Hustler?

You'd be surprised, even Birth of Venus and David get censored in Pop culture.

I mean like if there was a TV show before 9 O clock, it should be acceptable to display characters, both male and female, naked, if there's a reason for doing so. Nudity should not be something that's kept from children, either. I mean, why? I don't care for "Old values", I want to hear a valid reason why nudity has to be censored in the media.

No, they have colonies full of oddballs like you. I AM COMFORTABLE WITH MY BODY! YOU MUST BE TOO! GAZE UPON MY NAKED BODY! YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. LOOK AT IT! LOOK AT IT!

At 5/31/06 12:07 AM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: I don't care for "Old values", I want to hear a valid reason why nudity has to be censored in the media.

I told you. People still have religious values where they believe displaying their body for all to see is a violation of modesty, which they believe their deity said was obstruction of etiquette. There's no other reason better than that to be against it.

Besides, there isn't exactly a good argument why nudity shouldn't be censored? People are able to log unto the internet if they wish to see nudity. No one's stopping them.

At 5/31/06 12:07 AM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: You'd be surprised, even Birth of Venus and David get censored in Pop culture.

But rarely

I mean like if there was a TV show before 9 O clock, it should be acceptable to display characters, both male and female, naked, if there's a reason for doing so. Nudity should not be something that's kept from children, either. I mean, why? I don't care for "Old values", I want to hear a valid reason why nudity has to be censored in the media.

A child's mind is very fragile, for one. And for another, we should respect the wishes of the MANY parents who see a problem with their child looking at some guy's penis.

At 5/30/06 11:53 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Am I the only one who's absolutely disgusted that it's still taboo in most cases to show the image of your own damn bodies?

No, you are not alone, please start the revolution by first posting naked pictures of yourself on the internet. RISE UP BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!!!! Well, lets just stick with the sisters for now.

At 5/31/06 12:12 AM, ThebanLegion wrote: No, you are not alone, please start the revolution by first posting naked pictures of yourself on the internet. RISE UP BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!!!! Well, lets just stick with the sisters for now.

Yeah, and no fat chicks!

At 5/31/06 12:18 AM, lollerskaters wrote: Yeah, and no fat chicks!

Woops, guess that means you're out, lollerskaters.

I told you. People still have religious values where they believe displaying their body for all to see is a violation of modesty, which they believe their deity said was obstruction of etiquette. There's no other reason better than that to be against it.

But why does everyone else have to pander for their needs? We have to move on at some point.

Besides, there isn't exactly a good argument why nudity shouldn't be censored?

Ugh, a neo-con tactic. I don't have an argument so you defend yours instead.

People are able to log unto the internet if they wish to see nudity. No one's stopping them.

That's sexual nudity. Censoring nudity in the media, and having it found in abundence in a very seedy and negative life is sending entirely the wrong message, especially to younger people.

If it wasn't a big deal, society might not be so sex mad.

I don't think everyone should be nudists, solely because there's al ot of things on our bodies we want to hide. But should we feel the need to express ourselveson occasion, I don't see why it should be so taboo.

A child's mind is very fragile, for one. And for another, we should respect the wishes of the MANY parents who see a problem with their child looking at some guy's penis.

A child's mind is a very fragile, what kind of crap is that? OH GOD IT'S A PENIS I'M SCARRED FOR LIFE! Wait, what's this dangly thing between my legs...

Honestly, it's ridiculous. No, we shouldn't respect the wishes of those parents as there's plenty of things we do against what they believe in anyway. It doesn't hurt their kids to see what's perfectly natural. They'll only grow up thinking the human body is a sexual machine that should be covered up when not in use.

No, you are not alone, please start the revolution by first posting naked pictures of yourself on the internet. RISE UP BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!!!! Well, lets just stick with the sisters for now.

Okay. Here, I made a slideshow - http://wetflame.digibase.ca/monsquaz.swf

At 5/31/06 12:19 AM, JadedSOB wrote:

At 5/31/06 12:18 AM, lollerskaters wrote: Yeah, and no fat chicks!

Woops, guess that means you're out, lollerskaters.

Woops, forgot to change it back. But if I were a girl, I'd be hawt.

Why, do you already look like one?

At 5/31/06 12:22 AM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Okay. Here, I made a slideshow - http://wetflame.digibase.ca/monsquaz.swf

I'm trying to make a point here :p

And yes, no fat chicks, or hippies! If I see one naked hippie, so help me!

At 5/31/06 12:28 AM, ThebanLegion wrote:

At 5/31/06 12:22 AM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Okay. Here, I made a slideshow - http://wetflame.digibase.ca/monsquaz.swf

I'm trying to make a point here :p

And yes, no fat chicks, or hippies! If I see one naked hippie, so help me!

Hippie girls are crazy and cute. I'm looking for one at the mo.

I dont have a problem with nudity, but the whole penis showing thing kind of says no for me.

At 5/31/06 12:33 AM, Trajan wrote: I dont have a problem with nudity, but the whole penis showing thing kind of says no for me.

Yes, the last thing I want is a world wide sausage-fest.

At 5/31/06 12:22 AM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

I told you. People still have religious values where they believe displaying their body for all to see is a violation of modesty, which they believe their deity said was obstruction of etiquette. There's no other reason better than that to be against it.

But why does everyone else have to pander for their needs? We have to move on at some point.

No one does have to pander to their needs. They're afraid on public tv their kid or they might turn to a channel with somebody whose has their dick/vagina out there. So that's why it's censored on public tv. Parents can't patrol their kids 24/7 so they need alittle help from tv companies to try and filter the stuff they don't wish their kids to see.

Besides, there isn't exactly a good argument why nudity shouldn't be censored?

Ugh, a neo-con tactic. I don't have an argument so you defend yours instead.

I was stating a point. You said there was no good argument for censoring nudity while I was reiterating there was no good argument against it. It's a slippery slope issue. This issue isn't about logic or morality. It's about a person's social preference.

You wishing nudity to be displayed without censoreship because you feel it's a way of self-expression, correct?

While other people believe it's uncouth to do so despite the circumstances, and that the human body is a sort of sacrament that shouldn't be so easily displayed.

People are able to log unto the internet if they wish to see nudity. No one's stopping them.

That's sexual nudity. Censoring nudity in the media, and having it found in abundence in a very seedy and negative life is sending entirely the wrong message, especially to younger people.

Unfounded claim *sigh*

I call bullshit on this. You can do a google search for "Artistic Nudity" or something similar and I guarantee you'll get hits. Don't say it like the only nudity the internet displays is in a sexual manner.

At 5/31/06 12:22 AM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: A child's mind is a very fragile, what kind of crap is that? OH GOD IT'S A PENIS I'M SCARRED FOR LIFE! Wait, what's this dangly thing between my legs...

Thats their own penis, and thats just for little boys. Penal, you really are a crazy bitch if you truly think that full nudity won't cause any harm to children.

Honestly, it's ridiculous. No, we shouldn't respect the wishes of those parents as there's plenty of things we do against what they believe in anyway.

But they can much more easily prevent their children from playing a violent video game or watching an X-rated movie, if they try. It's harder if Barney has a huge dino-dick.

And besides, you keep screaming all the time that you don't want people to push their beliefs. You should take some of your own advice.

It doesn't hurt their kids to see what's perfectly natural. They'll only grow up thinking the human body is a sexual machine that should be covered up when not in use.

A rabbit being torn to pieces by a wolf is all natural too. A decaying body is natural too. fucking is natural too.

Okay. Here, I made a slideshow - http://wetflame.digibase.ca/monsquaz.swf

God-damn you....

The naked body is obviously something that we should be ashamed of.

http://img.photobuck..flame/grantkelly.png

Thats their own penis, and thats just for little boys. Penal, you really are a crazy bitch if you truly think that full nudity won't cause any harm to children.

Uh, where's the evidence?

But they can much more easily prevent their children from playing a violent video game or watching an X-rated movie, if they try. It's harder if Barney has a huge dino-dick.

That'd be great!

And besides, you keep screaming all the time that you don't want people to push their beliefs. You should take some of your own advice.

But they're ALREADY pushing their beliefs. This is just a counterpush to put everyone on what will ultimately be a more equal level.

A rabbit being torn to pieces by a wolf is all natural too. A decaying body is natural too. fucking is natural too.

But these are our own bodies! The things we walk around in all day, and we can't even show parts of it!

I think it should be up to the networks if they wanna show nudity or not i think the FCC should be dissmanteled

Kids tend to watch kids shows anyway.

It is ultimatly the parents descison whether they will allow their kid to see nudity.

It's not fair that nudity be banned from TV because parents are lazy.

Same goes with other mature content.

At 5/30/06 11:59 PM, altanese_mistress wrote: Do you mean like 'Birth of Venus' and 'David' ? Because they're pretty accepted. Or do you mean Playboy and Hustler?

Ummm...
Hustler is way out of Playboy's legue.

Both are porno but Playboy is so beautifully made that it's near comparible to Venus and David.

And literally... it's an art form because--
if they can take raw materia such as Debroah Conger and maker her like Campbell's Soup (MMMMMM Good..)

Then really... they're on the level of Da Vinci...

Penal, I think you might be going, because I have hope that no one can be that crazily idiotic in their views. But, I've seen it before, so....

There is no point arguing with you. o_O You're unwilling to make ANY comprimises and continuously shove your views on others, saying anyone who disagrees with you on anything is an idiot and (usually) driven by hate. And yes, I know you will dismiss this as crap, but you know what?

I don't care anymore. You're a crazy, super-liberal idiot with flawed views who can't negotiate; I hate you, go away.

At 5/31/06 05:04 AM, altanese_mistress wrote: Penal, I think you might be going,

'joking', not 'going'. I dunno how I got 'going'

At 5/31/06 12:07 AM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: I don't care for "Old values", I want to hear a valid reason why nudity has to be censored in the media.

if you don't care about old values, then why does it matter if we explain it or not? it's like saying "i hate emo just because, but i want you to give me the good points of emo."

but anyway, i'm not for censorship either. i'm not only talking about nudity, but also some themes, like religion, stuff. i'm 16 yrs old and a good kid, so even if i wanted to, i couldn't watch Da Vinci code because it's R18 in the Philippines. censor censorship!

eherm, i mean outlaw it...

At 5/30/06 11:53 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Am I the only one who's absolutely disgusted that it's still taboo in most cases to show the image of your own damn bodies?

not the only one, but some people may want to, so i'l let them do it, BUT NOT FOR CHILDREN.
i'll just say: showing images of yourself naked is not illegal, is not mentioned to be illegal, but its not mentioned for little children.

At 5/30/06 11:53 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Am I the only one who's absolutely disgusted that it's still taboo in most cases to show the image of your own damn bodies?

Have you ever been to those nude beaches in Europe?
I can't imagine running down the beach with my ding-a-ling flopping around.
Eurotrip was the best movie. :)