All my Music submissions got deleted and I don't know why...they were all voted very highly. Since then I tried uploading exclusively art and get almost no views and am wondering if it has something to do with the removal of all my music submissions?
Either way, does anyone just have general advice for getting even the minimum required votes for something to be scored? I feel like I'm failing here and don't know why.
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At 4/28/24 03:41 PM, TurtleBox420 wrote: All my Music submissions got deleted and I don't know why...they were all voted very highly. Since then I tried uploading exclusively art and get almost no views and am wondering if it has something to do with the removal of all my music submissions?
Either way, does anyone just have general advice for getting even the minimum required votes for something to be scored? I feel like I'm failing here and don't know why.
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At 4/28/24 06:12 PM, Dr-Freebase wrote:At 4/28/24 03:41 PM, TurtleBox420 wrote: All my Music submissions got deleted and I don't know why...they were all voted very highly. Since then I tried uploading exclusively art and get almost no views and am wondering if it has something to do with the removal of all my music submissions?draw more porn draw more porn draw more porn
Either way, does anyone just have general advice for getting even the minimum required votes for something to be scored? I feel like I'm failing here and don't know why.
also draw pornography
Yeah...that realllllly seems to be what I'm seeing works here.
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At 4/28/24 06:12 PM, Dr-Freebase wrote:At 4/28/24 03:41 PM, TurtleBox420 wrote: All my Music submissions got deleted and I don't know why...they were all voted very highly. Since then I tried uploading exclusively art and get almost no views and am wondering if it has something to do with the removal of all my music submissions?draw more porn draw more porn draw more porn
Either way, does anyone just have general advice for getting even the minimum required votes for something to be scored? I feel like I'm failing here and don't know why.
also draw pornography
but...my friends follow me on this account....
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At 4/28/24 06:45 PM, TurtleBox420 wrote:At 4/28/24 06:12 PM, Dr-Freebase wrote:Yeah...that realllllly seems to be what I'm seeing works here.At 4/28/24 03:41 PM, TurtleBox420 wrote: All my Music submissions got deleted and I don't know why...they were all voted very highly. Since then I tried uploading exclusively art and get almost no views and am wondering if it has something to do with the removal of all my music submissions?draw more porn draw more porn draw more porn
Either way, does anyone just have general advice for getting even the minimum required votes for something to be scored? I feel like I'm failing here and don't know why.
also draw pornography
it works everywhere
welp
Response to Advice on getting more votes on my artwork? 2024-04-29 00:11:35 (edited 2024-04-29 00:11:57)
it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.
Get yourself known to the community, comment on some posts, maybe make an art thread so more folks around find about you and your stuff. Get in collabs, people here Looooooooooooooooove, collabs.
Tits dude
At 4/29/24 12:11 AM, Template88 wrote: it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.
My stuff isn't bad, and I'm really confused as to where all this "Cause it sucks" energy is coming from. Ya'll don't need to behave like that, it's weird.
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Response to Advice on getting more votes on my artwork? 2024-04-29 02:06:57 (edited 2024-04-29 02:09:10)
At 4/29/24 02:03 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:At 4/29/24 12:11 AM, Template88 wrote: it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.My stuff isn't bad, and I'm really confused as to where all this "Cause it sucks" energy is coming from. Ya'll don't need to behave like that, it's weird.
You're not scouted.... thats a pretty glaring issue if your goal is getting attention with your artwork. Part of being able to improve as an artist is having the observational skills and critical sight to be able to see where you are compared to where others are in their journey. I'm not saying it to put you down, I was exactly where you are once, however you're asking a question and getting an answer. You dont like the answer, but it doesnt change the fact that the reason you're not getting eyes on your work is because you're not scouted. Why arent you scouted.
and no, the answer isnt because the mods have some personal agenda against you, or theres something funky going on in the way people judge the merits of art. You are a beginner, ergo you are not yet good. I cant sugarcoat this any further for you.
At 4/29/24 02:06 AM, Template88 wrote:At 4/29/24 02:03 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:You're not scouted.... thats a pretty glaring issue if your goal is getting attention with your artwork. Part of being able to improve as an artist is having the observational skills and critical sight to be able to see where you are compared to where others are in their journey. I'm not saying it to put you down, I was exactly where you are once, however you're asking a question and getting an answer. You dont like the answer, but it doesnt change the fact that the reason you're not getting eyes on your work is because you're not scouted. Why arent you scouted.At 4/29/24 12:11 AM, Template88 wrote: it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.My stuff isn't bad, and I'm really confused as to where all this "Cause it sucks" energy is coming from. Ya'll don't need to behave like that, it's weird.
and no, the answer isnt because the mods have some personal agenda against you, or theres something funky going on in the way people judge the merits of art.
I never said the mods have a personal agenda against me...that's a flat out bizarre thing to claim. All my previous uploads were wiped, all I did was ask if that could be an indication of anything.
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At 4/29/24 02:06 AM, Template88 wrote:At 4/29/24 02:03 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:You're not scouted.... thats a pretty glaring issue if your goal is getting attention with your artwork. Part of being able to improve as an artist is having the observational skills and critical sight to be able to see where you are compared to where others are in their journey. I'm not saying it to put you down, I was exactly where you are once, however you're asking a question and getting an answer. You dont like the answer, but it doesnt change the fact that the reason you're not getting eyes on your work is because you're not scouted. Why arent you scouted.At 4/29/24 12:11 AM, Template88 wrote: it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.My stuff isn't bad, and I'm really confused as to where all this "Cause it sucks" energy is coming from. Ya'll don't need to behave like that, it's weird.
and no, the answer isnt because the mods have some personal agenda against you, or theres something funky going on in the way people judge the merits of art. You are a beginner, ergo you are not yet good. I cant sugarcoat this any further for you.
And I think the fact that you and other people are like "Your a beginner and you're not good and your art fucking sucks." is fucking wild, like so creepy and toxic.
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At 4/29/24 02:10 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:At 4/29/24 02:06 AM, Template88 wrote:And I think the fact that you and other people are like "Your a beginner and you're not good and your art fucking sucks." is fucking wild, like so creepy and toxic.At 4/29/24 02:03 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:You're not scouted.... thats a pretty glaring issue if your goal is getting attention with your artwork. Part of being able to improve as an artist is having the observational skills and critical sight to be able to see where you are compared to where others are in their journey. I'm not saying it to put you down, I was exactly where you are once, however you're asking a question and getting an answer. You dont like the answer, but it doesnt change the fact that the reason you're not getting eyes on your work is because you're not scouted. Why arent you scouted.At 4/29/24 12:11 AM, Template88 wrote: it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.My stuff isn't bad, and I'm really confused as to where all this "Cause it sucks" energy is coming from. Ya'll don't need to behave like that, it's weird.
and no, the answer isnt because the mods have some personal agenda against you, or theres something funky going on in the way people judge the merits of art. You are a beginner, ergo you are not yet good. I cant sugarcoat this any further for you.
Be obscure, then.
At 4/29/24 02:11 AM, Template88 wrote:At 4/29/24 02:10 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:Be obscure, then.At 4/29/24 02:06 AM, Template88 wrote:And I think the fact that you and other people are like "Your a beginner and you're not good and your art fucking sucks." is fucking wild, like so creepy and toxic.At 4/29/24 02:03 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:You're not scouted.... thats a pretty glaring issue if your goal is getting attention with your artwork. Part of being able to improve as an artist is having the observational skills and critical sight to be able to see where you are compared to where others are in their journey. I'm not saying it to put you down, I was exactly where you are once, however you're asking a question and getting an answer. You dont like the answer, but it doesnt change the fact that the reason you're not getting eyes on your work is because you're not scouted. Why arent you scouted.At 4/29/24 12:11 AM, Template88 wrote: it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.My stuff isn't bad, and I'm really confused as to where all this "Cause it sucks" energy is coming from. Ya'll don't need to behave like that, it's weird.
and no, the answer isnt because the mods have some personal agenda against you, or theres something funky going on in the way people judge the merits of art. You are a beginner, ergo you are not yet good. I cant sugarcoat this any further for you.
I have 1,500+ followers on Twitter and 3,800+ on Tiktok I think it's safe to say I'm pretty far from Obscure compared to people on NewGrounds who sit in advice threads and just call people asking how to navigate a site's community shitty artist.
Maybe just straight up don't be toxic to people, it gains you nothing.
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At 4/29/24 01:42 AM, TheGarbager619 wrote: Get yourself known to the community, comment on some posts, maybe make an art thread so more folks around find about you and your stuff. Get in collabs, people here Looooooooooooooooove, collabs.
Yeah, I used to be really active around here until they changed the whole community forums around and removed a bunch of things. I miss how the site was like, 5-10 years back tbh.
I do a lot of Collabs, just musically and not so much art stuff.
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At 4/28/24 06:46 PM, BroSkullEmoji wrote: This might interest you
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1520839
Kinda seems like just begging / asking for handouts versus wanting to understand how traffic on NG works these days if that makes sense.
No offense to those people at all though, I might give it a whirl.
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At 4/29/24 02:15 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:At 4/29/24 02:11 AM, Template88 wrote:I have 1,500+ followers on Twitter and 3,800+ on Tiktok I think it's safe to say I'm pretty far from Obscure compared to people on NewGrounds who sit in advice threads and just call people asking how to navigate a site's community shitty artist.At 4/29/24 02:10 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:Be obscure, then.At 4/29/24 02:06 AM, Template88 wrote:And I think the fact that you and other people are like "Your a beginner and you're not good and your art fucking sucks." is fucking wild, like so creepy and toxic.At 4/29/24 02:03 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:You're not scouted.... thats a pretty glaring issue if your goal is getting attention with your artwork. Part of being able to improve as an artist is having the observational skills and critical sight to be able to see where you are compared to where others are in their journey. I'm not saying it to put you down, I was exactly where you are once, however you're asking a question and getting an answer. You dont like the answer, but it doesnt change the fact that the reason you're not getting eyes on your work is because you're not scouted. Why arent you scouted.At 4/29/24 12:11 AM, Template88 wrote: it doesnt matter what you draw, if it looks bad nobody will care about it unless it looks bad in a really funny way, which I dont think Is what you're going for. go ahead, draw porn. it wont help you.My stuff isn't bad, and I'm really confused as to where all this "Cause it sucks" energy is coming from. Ya'll don't need to behave like that, it's weird.
and no, the answer isnt because the mods have some personal agenda against you, or theres something funky going on in the way people judge the merits of art. You are a beginner, ergo you are not yet good. I cant sugarcoat this any further for you.
Maybe just straight up don't be toxic to people, it gains you nothing.
Throwing around follower numbers may feel like a defense but it does not elevate the quality of your art. Only you can do that, by accepting the truth and changing. This isnt personal, well for waterina it might be. I dont care if you ever get scouted. You asked a question, you got an answer.
At 4/29/24 02:15 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote: I have 1,500+ followers on Twitter and 3,800+ on Tiktok I think it's safe to say I'm pretty far from Obscure compared to people on NewGrounds who sit in advice threads and just call people asking how to navigate a site's community shitty artist.
Your last piece of art got 0 retweets and 0 likes.
You're obscure as fuck.
Keep talking to people! Plenty of unscouted artists have gotten followings from their activities on the forums! Then you’ll get people who’ll say “okay, you’re doing good for where you’re at and I can’t wait to see how much you improve while you’re here.”
And also, block whoever you wanna. We got some people here who take a bit too much pride in putting the brutality in brutal honesty.
Someone please help me revive my clubs
At 4/29/24 07:21 AM, ZekeWatson wrote:At 4/29/24 02:15 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote: I have 1,500+ followers on Twitter and 3,800+ on Tiktok I think it's safe to say I'm pretty far from Obscure compared to people on NewGrounds who sit in advice threads and just call people asking how to navigate a site's community shitty artist.Your last piece of art got 0 retweets and 0 likes.
You're obscure as fuck.
Another artist who's exclusively known on NewGrounds with zero endorsements telling people the post they made 2 minutes ago on twitter has 0 rewtweets or likes therefore they're obscure?
You people so quickly came into this thread ot project your own insecurities and it already cost one of you a collab, lmao.
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If you composed the music yourself and they're not remixes, you can file for an appeal. If it takes a while for the appeal to be dealt with, you can post about it here to poke the mods: https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791 or DM Pingu directly if you want it dealt with privately.
At 4/29/24 09:27 AM, Thetageist wrote: Keep talking to people! Plenty of unscouted artists have gotten followings from their activities on the forums! Then you’ll get people who’ll say “okay, you’re doing good for where you’re at and I can’t wait to see how much you improve while you’re here.”
And also, block whoever you wanna. We got some people here who take a bit too much pride in putting the brutality in brutal honesty.
Yeah, like four people have already straight told me my artwork (aka the really casual fun stuff I was posting here) was dogshit and I should quit because I'm never going to be as good as them, they kinda realize I'm actually sponsored and fairly known off NewGrounds, lmao.
It cost 0$ for them to be nice and give legitimate advice but they went out of their way to just be total dick heads.
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At 4/29/24 09:50 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:At 4/29/24 07:21 AM, ZekeWatson wrote:Another artist who's exclusively known on NewGrounds with zero endorsements telling people the post they made 2 minutes ago on twitter has 0 rewtweets or likes therefore they're obscure?At 4/29/24 02:15 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote: I have 1,500+ followers on Twitter and 3,800+ on Tiktok I think it's safe to say I'm pretty far from Obscure compared to people on NewGrounds who sit in advice threads and just call people asking how to navigate a site's community shitty artist.Your last piece of art got 0 retweets and 0 likes.
You're obscure as fuck.
You people so quickly came into this thread ot project your own insecurities and it already cost one of you a collab, lmao.
And that means you're Not Obscure As Fuck, how exactly?
At 4/29/24 09:51 AM, Madmazel wrote: If you composed the music yourself and they're not remixes, you can file for an appeal. If it takes a while for the appeal to be dealt with, you can post about it here to poke the mods: https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791 or DM Pingu directly if you want it dealt with privately.
I'll shoot them a DM, it was basically about 5% of the music from my https://theturtlebox.itch.io/ page, no notification or anything they just went poof.
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Response to Advice on getting more votes on my artwork? 2024-04-29 09:54:37 (edited 2024-04-29 09:58:01)
At 4/29/24 09:27 AM, Thetageist wrote: Keep talking to people! Plenty of unscouted artists have gotten followings from their activities on the forums! Then you’ll get people who’ll say “okay, you’re doing good for where you’re at and I can’t wait to see how much you improve while you’re here.”
And also, block whoever you wanna. We got some people here who take a bit too much pride in putting the brutality in brutal honesty.
How could I have done better? Honestly asking, because simply telling them about the scouting system isnt going to help them with the core issue, should I just let them give up, or blame the site for being elitist? Thats what I've seen happen when people arent aware of the issue. Somebody has to tell them, and it may as well be somebody they have no relationship with so they dont have personal biases with, for or against. The fact that theres no basis for me to care is a stronger reason for them to consider my words, or disregard them entirely if they wish, but theyll have to ponder why a total stranger did such a thing for apparently no reason. 99% of the people this person has interacted with has never cared enough to tell them the truth, its so much easier not to. I mean they say they went to art school for gods sake, imagine the teachers.
Response to Advice on getting more votes on my artwork? 2024-04-29 09:55:06 (edited 2024-04-29 09:55:45)
At 4/29/24 09:53 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:
they kinda realize I'm actually sponsored and fairly known off NewGrounds, lmao.
Where?
At 4/29/24 09:54 AM, Template88 wrote:At 4/29/24 09:27 AM, Thetageist wrote: Keep talking to people! Plenty of unscouted artists have gotten followings from their activities on the forums! Then you’ll get people who’ll say “okay, you’re doing good for where you’re at and I can’t wait to see how much you improve while you’re here.”How could I have done better? Honestly asking, because simply telling them about the scouting system isnt going to help them with the core issue, should I just let them give up, or blame the site for being elitist? Thats what I've seen happen when people arent aware of the issue. Somebody has to tell them, and it may as well be somebody they have no relationship with so they dont have personal biases with, for or against. The fact that theres no basis for me to care is a stronger reason for them to consider my words, or disregard them entirely if they wish, but theyll have to ponder why a total stranger did such a thing for apparently no reason. 99% of the people this person has interacted with has never cared enough to tell them the truth, its so much easier not to. I mean they say they went to art school for gods sake, imagine the teachers.
And also, block whoever you wanna. We got some people here who take a bit too much pride in putting the brutality in brutal honesty.
The biggest lesson here is that the way you word things matters.
For instance: “You’re not getting attention right now because your art sucks and therefore you’re not scouted” has a different impact than “The scouting system, which dictates which works are seen by everyone when they look at the Art Portal, has a minimum quality threshold so the Art Portal isn’t flooded with all of the bottom of the barrel stuff that people have posted [cite examples of like the worst MS Paint fetish shovelware you’ve ever seen], and at this point, based on other examples I’ve seen, you’re not there yet.”
The aim of the game here is to basically say “Our site happens to work differently than other platforms and place more emphasis on quality of art, but I believe you can make it to the proper milestones with some time and effort.” Being encouraging goes a long way.
Also surprised you didn’t really say anything in particular about what exactly to work on. I took you as someone who would be more specific about individual things to improve, but maybe I’m confusing you with Skoops.
Now I’m gonna go take a look at OP’s art and give them some feedback and resources if needed.
Someone please help me revive my clubs
At 4/29/24 09:53 AM, TurtleBox420 wrote:At 4/29/24 09:27 AM, Thetageist wrote: Keep talking to people! Plenty of unscouted artists have gotten followings from their activities on the forums! Then you’ll get people who’ll say “okay, you’re doing good for where you’re at and I can’t wait to see how much you improve while you’re here.”Yeah, like four people have already straight told me my artwork (aka the really casual fun stuff I was posting here) was dogshit and I should quit because I'm never going to be as good as them, they kinda realize I'm actually sponsored and fairly known off NewGrounds, lmao.
And also, block whoever you wanna. We got some people here who take a bit too much pride in putting the brutality in brutal honesty.
It cost 0$ for them to be nice and give legitimate advice but they went out of their way to just be total dick heads.
Ah, so a lot of the stuff you’re posting here is just shitposts? That would explain the misunderstanding, then.
I’d recommend watching out for putting artwork with too big of a quality gap on NG, considering people might suspect you’re stealing, using AI, or just editing photos and claiming it’s handmade. (Photobashing itself isn’t illegal, just needs to have significant edits done to count.)
To prevent flooding your own profile with individual doodles, you can use the multi-artwork post feature to make an art dump of multiple doodles at once.
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At 4/29/24 10:51 AM, Thetageist wrote:At 4/29/24 09:54 AM, Template88 wrote:The biggest lesson here is that the way you word things matters.At 4/29/24 09:27 AM, Thetageist wrote: Keep talking to people! Plenty of unscouted artists have gotten followings from their activities on the forums! Then you’ll get people who’ll say “okay, you’re doing good for where you’re at and I can’t wait to see how much you improve while you’re here.”How could I have done better? Honestly asking, because simply telling them about the scouting system isnt going to help them with the core issue, should I just let them give up, or blame the site for being elitist? Thats what I've seen happen when people arent aware of the issue. Somebody has to tell them, and it may as well be somebody they have no relationship with so they dont have personal biases with, for or against. The fact that theres no basis for me to care is a stronger reason for them to consider my words, or disregard them entirely if they wish, but theyll have to ponder why a total stranger did such a thing for apparently no reason. 99% of the people this person has interacted with has never cared enough to tell them the truth, its so much easier not to. I mean they say they went to art school for gods sake, imagine the teachers.
And also, block whoever you wanna. We got some people here who take a bit too much pride in putting the brutality in brutal honesty.
For instance: “You’re not getting attention right now because your art sucks and therefore you’re not scouted” has a different impact than “The scouting system, which dictates which works are seen by everyone when they look at the Art Portal, has a minimum quality threshold so the Art Portal isn’t flooded with all of the bottom of the barrel stuff that people have posted [cite examples of like the worst MS Paint fetish shovelware you’ve ever seen], and at this point, based on other examples I’ve seen, you’re not there yet.”
The aim of the game here is to basically say “Our site happens to work differently than other platforms and place more emphasis on quality of art, but I believe you can make it to the proper milestones with some time and effort.” Being encouraging goes a long way.
Also surprised you didn’t really say anything in particular about what exactly to work on. I took you as someone who would be more specific about individual things to improve, but maybe I’m confusing you with Skoops.
Now I’m gonna go take a look at OP’s art and give them some feedback and resources if needed.
I feel like your suggestions are reasonable but not drastic enough and dont have a sense of urgency. OP needs a message now without any ambiguity about what the issue is. That is what they're asking for after all. The issue isnt a lack of knowledge of the scouting system, its their art. Theres no reason to go into specifics of what they should work on when the artist shows evidence that they dont even believe in the core issue. Even if that werent the case I wouldnt have anything but generalizations for them because their art doesnt have a clear direction yet. If they stay the course they're on theyll give up before they get scouted.
