I just linked to a case where it does.

At 7/23/19 12:51 PM, DamnedByFate .

Because it's the truth. The government would just FUBAR it up to the point it would be exploited. People and government dont change it would never work no matter how much you preach you secular humanist bullshit that comes from overbearing socialist policies.

For that matter, neither does free market and laissez faire bullshit, which just ends up benefiting a small amount of people at the expense of the majority. They are just good talking points to make you vote for certain politicians, and meant to make you feel empowered, and unreliant on others but yourself, when the chance of the average person climbing the social ladder of success, without relying on certain social programs sometime in your life, is pretty much nil.

1. You can't FUBAR something up. The U already stands for "up". And 2. You do not know this.

At 7/24/19 05:35 AM, DamnedByFate .

Fucked up beyond repair. You just have to look at our Social Security which will run out by 2035 and with social security being tiered by what year you're born determined what age you get to withdraw social security, I was born in 1989 and I don't get to withdraw until I'm 72.

Theres only a few things that can be done get rid of it, make it so people can't abuse the system like they do already l, or lower social security payments and increase the pay in amount which will decrease the deficit and increase the fund but that will nevernever happen because Baby Boomers in congress are always increasing payment amounts to get Boomer votes will screwing the younger generations who pay in and get their withdrawl age increased. And people wonder why people call Social Security a Ponzi Scheme.

Of course FUBAR perfectly describes everything the government does since Baby Boomers once they came into power in the 90s. Overpay for crap, not caring about consequences because to them it doesn't matter as long as they get what they want and results.

You got that the other way around.

Learn how to edit your posts you two. You're clogging my feed, edit out the username headers on top of the quoted text when you reply and only leave the person your directly replying to.

At 7/24/19 08:45 PM, SolidPantsSnake

It looks better in thread and you aren't tagging people, it gets real annoying.

Times that by three or four threads amd those notifications as for Damned's response I was on my phone responding to people and responding to people on a mobile phone on here is literal ass lol trying to edit response post with fingers and 8 inch screens are not fun.

but I like to give people the benefit of a speedy response or at least write a rough draft on the phone post it get on my laptop and edit though I do need support status so I can have a longer time window for editing. You can tell which posts I make on my phone and the ones I do on my computer.

You have the ability to ignore thread responses at the very top or your Interactions Menu, but you cant with people who keep you in the response queue or @ you.

Maybe but its etiquette and it makes the threads look much cleaner and not as much scrolling.

Edit: how did I screw up the response?

Edit 2: fixed it. wrote:

Looks like the Clinton Foundation is cleaning house of any loose ends. Jeffery Epstein has been found injured while in jail and a FBI Agent in the Financial Crimes units has committed "suicide" you know the kind where you start asking questions and get loud and end up with Multiple gunshot Suicides.

Those Clinton's are doing it and broad daylight and not caring at this point.

Norway is not socialism. It's Capitalism under a Social Democracy.

NOT Democratic Socialism.

Free healthcare policies can work. The NHS used to work, until nefarious pharma tycoons decided their profits were more important and cures were bad for business.

The Green New Deal is a load of fucking retardation bullshit.

On the one hand, you're right. On the other hand, I don't think this matters to people who yell socialism at every policy that slightly hints at being left-wing.

Bernie was referenced. Bernie is a socialist.

The ideas, yeah great. Look at the state of our yard though?

Delusional. If you think anyone in the DNC will give you any of that. They couldn't even legalise marijuana without getting their dirty claws right into it.

Let’s get one thing straight, Bernie Sanders is a watered down socialist, and his policies are versions of the Nordic model, which is watered downed socialism. A lot of it comes from general practicality due to America’s population size (330 million and growing) and reticence towards true socialism in general, as we have countries like Venezuela fell apart, and that’s not including the cartoonish level of corruption that went on there.

Frankly, we need to stop trying to model after Norway, (which is a small country that is irrelevant on the world stage outside of subjective rankings) and instead try to emulate the New Deal that FDR implemented in the 30’s. People are going to be more open to home grown policies that work compared to copycat models that may or may not work.

Also, changing the nomenclature of progressive policies will work better than calling it socialist, as it’s often the little things that hang up American voters rather than the big picture.

The nominee will likely be Biden, he is the best bet against Trump. The elites will never allow Bernie, Yang or other grassroots to win, and the other candidates are simply not well known enough.

Of course because the other ones either aren't popular enough or to radical or both with the public or colleagues in congress that will push the liberal, center-left and moderate Democrats to the safe candidate like Biden he's got recognition he has funds and most importantly he has said anything dumb or radical when it comes to policy like the rogue progressives that the democrats are dealing with so he's easier to work with instead of firebrands like the progressive candidates.

He isn't playing with identity politics or entitlement concessions its practical policy of slow steps and acknowledging some things need to change.

My winners for tonight's debate are Delaney and Williamson. They were more rational/realistic than the rest of the bunch and that's pretty sad. Also good for the smaller candidates for attacking the bigger threats like Bernie and Warren, the only way they have a chance is if they can band together against the Socialist duo. Go moderates. My two cents.

Fuck yeah! Let's run a Republican masquerading as a Democrat like John Delaney! Cuz that worked sooooo well in 2016!

This is how you know the Democrats have gone off the deep end when they start accusing the moderates Democrats of being republican and accusing arguments of reason as republican talking points. The only chance they have at winning the election is if they run someone who is closer to the center were most Americans stand. Maybe not any of the candidates last night will be running against Trump and win, but Biden surely has the best chance of all the candidates to do so. It will be interesting to see how well he does tonight given that he performed on the poor end last time.

Are you trying to be as wrong as possible? In 2016, we had a corporate shill who won't change a goddamn thing go against Trump and she fucking lost. What makes you think it'll be any different if Creepy Handsy Joey goes against him? Joey literally said if he becomes president that nothing will fundamentally change. Same bullshit as the AMERICA'S ALREADY GREAT garbage that Shillary Clinton was running with. Unless you're rich, America fucking sucks. And actual liberals like Bernie Sanders are the way to fix it, not this New Democrat center right wing bullshit that most of the fucks on that stage support.

because it was a Clinton and no one wanted that.

and what makes you think anything further than liberal has a chance like Bernie or Warren? alot of the policy they want will collapse our economy if they had it their way appeasing to identity politics and entitled behavior and how they propose on funding it.

How are their policies going to collapse our economy? And can you repeat the rest of that sentence and the first sentence in English?

They engage the far left leaning views of in policy that encourages entitled behavior E.G: Health care for all, student debt cancellation/forgiveness taxing the rich and and corporations etc.

Bernie wants to put a tax on all Wall street transactions which would only hurt the market and make it even more difficult for the average American to enter into.

Taxing the rich is regressive no one has the right to tax someone on some arbitrary basis, how is that fair when this is america because it isn't.

And dont even get me started on AOC and her idiocy of "just paying for it" or having the Federal Reserve just print more money or just adding higher taxes.

Why shouldn't citizens of this country be entitled to healthcare or education? The rest of the first world has universal healthcare and some have free college, so it's not like this is some crazy new shit that hasn't been done. America can fucking afford it. And if it somehow can't, cut the military budget and tax these rich motherfuckers. K-12 is free, so why should college be any different? Why is anyone who isn't rich or in a health insurance company or paid off by them against universal healthcare? This shit will save so many lives and drastically improve the quality of life of Americans.

How is the amount of money someone has an arbitrary basis? Tax rates should be higher for rich people because poor people need a higher percentage of their money than rich people do. And you're not rich, so why do you give so much of a fuck about the poor oppressed millionaires?

Are you trolling? Your shit English and constantly being against your own best interests make it seem like you're bullshitting.

No, he's not really trolling. He's a libertarian, who loves guns and defense spending, and hates to see his taxes go to waste on anything he doesn't see as a direct benefit to him (even if it's often contradictory and out of political stubbornness for something) - and he doesn't like government handouts either. Right Tony?

we have a larger population than the majority of European and if we wan't to get specific the Nordic countries, we also have a larger presence on the international stage where we have to subsidize the EU's defense through NATO missions since the EU countries don't want to "pay their fair share" even though they're all about equality. the US is also one of the biggest contributors to foreign and humanitarian aid with either direct payments or physical goods or through organizations like the UN whose budget we also pretty much subsidize to keep it maintaining.

also our social programs are a literal money sink due to Baby Boomers tapping into social securit and voting in people into Congress and increasing SS payout amounts as bribes to get votes, funfact by 2035 Social Security is going to go into a full deficit so I don't know why I'm paying into it because I can't withdraw until I'm 72 and I just entered my 30s.

I have no argument for K-12, but when you apply to college and more importantly apply for college loans you are agree to a financial contract you willfully and agreed to, it is your duty to read the terms and conditions of that contract. the fact that the person who signed the contract didn't think ahead because of the lack of employment prospects due to that degree or making payments with either a part or full time job while attending higher education to lower the financial burden to

they earn a higher amount of money so their tax percentage is lower so it's the same number being deducted as a regular people except they have ways to launder it lol. I care because on the simple basis that if someone works or was born into money they should be able to keep what they have and shouldn't be penalized for it, this is America you should be unimpeded on what you do financially, if you want altruistic egalitarianism move to Europe if you don't already live there.

no I am not, and no I'm just day drinking because I'm having my day off and celebrating with some good 'ol Eve Online and day drinking and i'm having a blast, you haven't lived until you've drank and internet spaceship'd!!

the real game plan is to trick the government into legislating and making itself almost pointless to get it out of the daily lives of people like you and me, I mean sure we could cut $200B and get rid of all our foreign military stuff but then how are we suppose to stay a super power if we're as pointless as some Nordic country and keep those scary Russians away that you seem so afraid of?

and I honestly as a person don't need alot of things so no its not really a benefit to me lol I'm actually a pretty simple I've been described as a "meat and potatoes salt of the earth" kind of guy even if some of my political beliefs are out there but is really that bad that I don't want to deal with other people's bullshit and have to be told what I can and can't do when I actually have common sense and not hurt anyone in my private day to day dealings?

$200 billion is chump change, considering you would get that amount back by simply shaking the piggy bank at the Pentagon - if it wasn't already in the hands of career officers dolling out generous government welfare to the defense companies, who then doll it out to their rich investors.

Besides, we need to justify that annual trillion dollar spending in some way, and Russia provides a good justification for it - outside of China and the Middle East. After all, Russia also wants go back to the the cold war era, which justifies the former KGB agent, and current president of Russia, Vladimir Putin's, dictator-like power there. It's why he's trying to restore Russia's glory in the world by expanding his country's borders back to how they were before the fall of the Soviet Union, and why his government keeps promoting propaganda of how they would nuke the US if we try to interfere with their plans - even after all the Putin ass kissing Trump is doing.

You might be able to say that right now, since you are young and healthy, and value your independence (maybe even thinking you are somewhat invincible and don't need to rely on anyone or anything) but that might change down the road when you get older and things get harder and more expensive.

What a night. It's like watching the circus. Best part of the debate was Gabbard attacking Harris on her record as prosecutor. Oof finished. Biden did well in consideration of his last debate, more aggressive, he spends a lot of the defending himself instead of selling himself to the American people though. Wouldn't mind seeing Gabbard/Biden/Bennet going on further though it might not be the case.

Booker also performed strongly. I would say he was the winner of tonight.

In my opinion, Biden won. He was the center of attention and is making less mistakes. He doesn't need to do great to win. The others have used all ammunition they had against him, now he will probably only go up. Booker is 30 points behind Biden in the polls.