So people in yellow vests are protesting rich people being shitty in France and refusing to pay their taxes.

I'm for it.

It's already been effective, but it might spread.

I for one welcome an american version of the Reign of Terror.

We have quite a few politicians who could learn well from witnessing a proper display of the efficiency of the guillotine.

Anybody else looking forward to watching the heads of the corrupt roll?

At 12/11/18 05:04 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: So people in yellow vests are protesting rich people being shitty in France and refusing to pay their taxes.

I for one welcome an american version of the Reign of Terror.

If there is it could be your chance.

Robespierre tried to get his cult of the supreme being off during all that; maybe you can start the cult of the supreme sauce.

There has to be some outcry, maybe not heads rolling but enough to get unions, worker rights, wages and other things back to something decent again.

Not to mention all the large scale financial fraud that has been ignored since the crash of 2008.

I wonder how the Christmas market attack will affect all this.

Was waiting for a thread on this. On news, I mostly see "it's about gas prices".

Curious if it's having an impact on the American stock market.

At 12/12/18 08:20 AM, Sause wrote: Your average Frenchman woke up and realized he no longer recognized his country.

I thought it was about gas prices.

I live in France and yeah, it's been a mess. The government is desperatly trying to save its ass but it's far from working, people are still pissed off. The only winners right now are the journalists, it's been non-stop coverage ever since the movement started. We also got hit by a terrorist attack in Strasbourg and people are already making conspiracy theories because of its timing. People are seriously not trusting the government right now.

What a way to ruin christmas by raising taxes on gas, Emmanuel Macron.

At 12/12/18 01:21 PM, SirLuggy wrote: I live in France and yeah, it's been a mess. The government is desperatly trying to save its ass but it's far from working, people are still pissed off. The only winners right now are the journalists, it's been non-stop coverage ever since the movement started. We also got hit by a terrorist attack in Strasbourg and people are already making conspiracy theories because of its timing. People are seriously not trusting the government right now.

What a way to ruin christmas by raising taxes on gas, Emmanuel Macron.

Yeah, those gas taxes were pretty stupid. Thought I read somewhere that they were going to be repealed because of all the backlash?

At 12/12/18 08:56 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:

At 12/12/18 08:20 AM, Sause wrote: Your average Frenchman woke up and realized he no longer recognized his country.

I thought it was about gas prices.

No, it's about ethics in games journalism.

At 12/12/18 02:37 PM, EdyKel wrote:
Yeah, those gas taxes were pretty stupid. Thought I read somewhere that they were going to be repealed because of all the backlash?

They were yeah, originally they were going to be enforced this January but the backlash made them retreat. People were still angry though, it took the government 3 weeks just to take a step back, and before that they were very smug about keeping the taxes up because "it's for the environment".

These protests are just the culmination of all the shitty laws that passed under Macron. One of the very first things he did when he got elected was removing taxes on the rich. Then he goes on praising Europe (reminder that France is one of the main reasons Article 13 passed in September) and reduces the pension of retired people. Raising taxes on gas was the last straw and now he is facing the consequences. He thought having no oppostion would allow him to pass any bill he wanted and boy was he wrong.

People are planning for another protest in Paris this Saturday, so who knows what will happen. Right now journalists are talking about the latest terrorist attack and how some people believe it's a conspiracy to stop the yellow vest movement non-stop. I even heard one guy they invited talking about how the government should pressure google and twitter to stop these conspiracy theorists.

What a shitshow.

Oh, it's already spreading. #YellowVest protests have spread across Europe... They potentially appear to be headed for Scotland.

What I find amusing is that France instantly woke up to this, yet Britain are still here while our 'Strong and Stable' parliament literally falls to pieces.

See, the French had it pretty good. The last thing they wanted was a Rothschild banker like Macron meddling and interfering in their country. Now it's fucked. Like any good Rothschild project.
Some say the Yellow Vest movement is an establishment organised thing, as a sort of damage control. To prevent any major revolution.
I'm undecided and haven't looked that much into it. There's some cool streams though.

At 12/12/18 04:11 PM, AcidX wrote: Some say the Yellow Vest movement is an establishment organised thing, as a sort of damage control. To prevent any major revolution.
I'm undecided and haven't looked that much into it. There's some cool streams though.

Officially, the movement came to be through social media. A small group wanted to create a social protest called the Yellow Vests and it gained a following. The reason why the government is struggling to shut them up is that they're not organized at all. They don't have spokesmen or leaders representing the movement, it's just a mass of angry people. The government tried to find spokesmen and leaders so they can invite them and discuss the main issues, but every time they either didn't come (either because of death threats or just because they did not trust the government) or it was unsuccessful. It's both their strength and weakness : on one hand it allows them to be unpredictable and pressure the government, but on the other it creates a huge mess.

The government has tried its hardest to make the movement look bad but everytime it failed. I don't know what's going to happen next. I haven't heard much about the situation in the UK because of all the shit happening in France.

At 12/12/18 04:32 PM, SirLuggy wrote: I haven't heard much about the situation in the UK because of all the shit happening in France.

It’s true. Look at these yellow jacketed ruffians invading a space intended for pedestrians.
Because, as we all know, the Brits love the French, and will emulate them whenever they get the chance.

At 12/12/18 04:52 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: It’s true. Look at these yellow jacketed ruffians invading a space intended for pedestrians.
Because, as we all know, the Brits love the French, and will emulate them whenever they get the chance.

This picture is too violent for my poor, innocent eyes. The UK truly is in shambles.

At 12/12/18 04:32 PM, SirLuggy wrote: It's both their strength and weakness : on one hand it allows them to be unpredictable and pressure the government, but on the other it creates a huge mess.

Indeed. There is a very physical mess that needs cleaning up and paying for now. But ultimately, the government is responsible for the mess. That's why there is protest, which has resulted in more mess.

Perhaps the most interesting development of the France revolt is the deployment of EU-branded military vehicles. From the EU Military Unification, which was definitely never happening.

The government has tried its hardest to make the movement look bad but everytime it failed. I don't know what's going to happen next. I haven't heard much about the situation in the UK because of all the shit happening in France.

Yes. That's the point. The corruption is even more rife here and other things the French see as problems, were introduced here years ago. There is no news here because they're all brainwashed idiots.

You know, bigups to the citizens of France. For actually having the balls to stand up and make themselves heard.

At 12/12/18 06:23 PM, AcidX wrote: Perhaps the most interesting development of the France revolt is the deployment of EU-branded military vehicles. From the EU Military Unification, which was definitely never happening.

Lol, Breitbart.

Literally 1 minute of research results in a debunk.

At 12/12/18 06:23 PM, AcidX wrote:

Indeed. There is a very physical mess that needs cleaning up and paying for now. But ultimately, the government is responsible for the mess. That's why there is protest, which has resulted in more mess.

Perhaps the most interesting development of the France revolt is the deployment of EU-branded military vehicles. From the EU Military Unification, which was definitely never happening.

Yes. That's the point. The corruption is even more rife here and other things the French see as problems, were introduced here years ago. There is no news here because they're all brainwashed idiots.

You know, bigups to the citizens of France. For actually having the balls to stand up and make themselves heard.

Protests are a tradition in France, it was only a matter of time. It's a good suprise though that it has an actual impact. I haven't really heard much about the EU equipement the government got but the protest last week wasn't as violent as last time anyway. They really did not want another national monument to be destroyed. The problem for them now is that 4-5 weeks of constant protest is tiring out police forces, they want the government to actually stop the protests instead of relying on them.

If only politics weren't this corrupted. Right now we seriously trust no politicians, it's why you don't see a guy from the left or the far right in the yellow vest movement. The opposition is pathetic anyway, between the mess of the far right, the inexistence of the left, the lack of popularity of the far left and the right that could not even win an election they were supposed to win, no wonder they can't use the yellow best movement to their advantage.

At 12/12/18 07:07 PM, test-object wrote:

At 12/12/18 06:23 PM, AcidX wrote: Perhaps the most interesting development of the France revolt is the deployment of EU-branded military vehicles. From the EU Military Unification, which was definitely never happening.

Lol, Breitbart.

Literally 1 minute of research results in a debunk

You mean, you read the comments on the twitter post?
Oh, of course. It was the Russian Photoshop Wizards. My bad.
Nothing to do with secretive EU Military Union. MUST have been the Ruskis. Nice how the 'leftover flag' on the Eurogendfor training exercise APC is in a different place. Also they put other decals on but didn't remove this one? Alright then

Nevermind this same badge now appearing on British Troops and other military forces throughout Europe. Or the fact the troops in Paris riots have all manner of European badges and languages on their uniforms. People must just be speculating about an EU army because it's not fucking happening must just be a dumb conspiracy theory. What do I know.

At 12/12/18 07:08 PM, SirLuggy wrote: Protests are a tradition in France, it was only a matter of time. It's a good suprise though that it has an actual impact. I haven't really heard much about the EU equipement the government got but the protest last week wasn't as violent as last time anyway.

You wont hear it either. Countless people have put the question of EU army to British Parliament and there's a complete avoidance of this issue. Farage was even asked this quesiton on his dumb radio show (at 3:20) Same story across Europe; only, most Europeans aren't supposed to be leaving the EU.

They really did not want another national monument to be destroyed. The problem for them now is that 4-5 weeks of constant protest is tiring out police forces, they want the government to actually stop the protests instead of relying on them.

Skeptics believe that the crisis in Europe has been deliberately created to allow the introductory roll-out of this army, one way or another. Which is frankly, exactly what it looks like. If not on Paris/France, then elsewhere.

If only politics weren't this corrupted. Right now we seriously trust no politicians, it's why you don't see a guy from the left or the far right in the yellow vest movement. The opposition is pathetic anyway, between the mess of the far right, the inexistence of the left, the lack of popularity of the far left and the right that could not even win an election they were supposed to win, no wonder they can't use the yellow best movement to their advantage.

Exactly why I hate people identifying me as far right, or as if I have some kind of agenda. My agenda is human kindness. Freedom of information and thought. Transparency. Not this cuckery and buggery fuckfest our leaders are forcing us to endure. No matter which side you support, you're still supporting that shit.
Protest and revolution is the only way forward. Don't sit there counting on these corrupt assholes to fix anything. They're bargaining on us sitting on our hands and doing nothing, just like we always have.

At 12/13/18 06:37 AM, AcidX wrote:

At 12/12/18 07:07 PM, test-object wrote:

Perhaps the most interesting development of the France revolt is the deployment of EU-branded military vehicles. From the EU Military Unification, which was definitely never happening.

Lol, Breitbart.
Literally 1 minute of research results in a debunk

You mean, you read the comments on the twitter post?
Oh, of course. It was the Russian Photoshop Wizards. My bad.
Nothing to do with secretive EU Military Union. MUST have been the Ruskis. Nice how the 'leftover flag' on the Eurogendfor training exercise APC is in a different place. Also they put other decals on but didn't remove this one? Alright then

- Test-object didn't mention Russia.
- The news article didn't mention Russia.

Freedom of information and thought. Transparency.

Transparency's good, but not for people with selective vision.

At 12/13/18 06:37 AM, AcidX wrote: Exactly why I hate people identifying me as far right, or as if I have some kind of agenda. My agenda is human kindness.

I didn't suggest you were far right, either. You're just referring others to a non-trustworthy, extremist right-wing website which DOES have a particularly cruel / anti-humanist agenda.

I'm not saying a European Army won't ever be a thing, in fact, eventually, I kind of expect it as an attempt to rival the US's military monopoly. I don't entirely agree with it, either (the less armies, the better). I do not, however, expect it to become an authoritarian local oppression machine right out of the gate, like that breitshit parody of an article says it'll be. Knowing Europe, it will be 10 years worth of administration and paperwork before the first prototype of a boot goes into production.

At 12/13/18 01:58 PM, test-object wrote:

At 12/13/18 06:37 AM, AcidX wrote:

I'm not saying a European Army won't ever be a thing, in fact, eventually, I kind of expect it as an attempt to rival the US's military monopoly. I don't entirely agree with it, either (the less armies, the better). I do not, however, expect it to become an authoritarian local oppression machine right out of the gate, like that breitshit parody of an article says it'll be. Knowing Europe, it will be 10 years worth of administration and paperwork before the first prototype of a boot goes into production.

I highly doubt a European Army will ever exist, it's an old idea that could never be done and I don't think it ever will. It's just too much of a mess to deal with just so they can compete with the US over nothing besides muscle power. And yeah, if it ever came to be, then it wouldn't be used for authoritarian purposes.

The gas prices attempted to be raised in response to the paris agreements on climate change. As for the lack of sustainable living in france that people have taken to the streets over I think they're all hopelessly misguided and want a different kind of socialist lite (more like socialite) leader in charge. Meanwhile Poland and Italy prepare for christmas, I feel like putting your workers and citizens first pays off in the long run in the sense that you don't have to use police in a way that makes an american like me blush.

The EU was a mistake.

Wow this thread has been alot of help in getting information.

Macron has really fucked up badly, I've seen some of the footage from the protests and holy shit it hasn't been this bad in a very long time