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Scary how relevant a 1947 film is

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Scary how relevant a 1947 film is 2017-08-16 00:37:10


So, after the recent violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, an old film resurfaced and began to go viral. It's an anti-fascist film created by the US government in 1943 (reedited and distributed into theaters in 1947), and it's very relevant to today's political atmosphere. It tells a tale of how the Nazis were able to gain power by their rhetoric against other races and religions, things that were almost mirrored by the rise of the Alt right and Trump in thiscountry. I was marking off, in my mind, the numerous similarities between the two.

Promote white nationalistic pride by defining who is a real citizen of a country through their race and religion. Check,
Villianize minorities, especially other races and religions. Check and check
Make people xenophobic and distrusting of immigrants and foreigners. Check
Call those who disagree with you enemies, like the media and science. Check and check
Attack Unions. Check
Attack the Catholic church, or religious leaders who are critical of your sense of morality. Check

So many parallels.... And it looks like the father of Godwin's law has given his blessing on using it on white nationalists, who are so interconnected with the alt-right that it practically defines them as being the same thing. I'm not saying that Trump, or the alt right are Nazis, but it getting real close, considering their shared ideology of cultural nationalism that centers around a specific race and religion, while demonizing all others.

Aside from the Alt-right's hate of socialism - based on ignorance, and stereotyping others as commies - I have noticed another difference that separates them from Nazi's, and that is their use of reverse psychology to spread their hate. It's their way of justifying their hatred of other races and religions by claiming that they are the victims of discrimination and hate by those other races, and by liberals, even though they have nothing to show for being oppressed in any way, other than being ostracized for their hateful views, and perceived slights on their white pride. And this is what they do to lure people to their cause, they pander to those who are thin skinned, and insecure about their own race, and have a tendency to want to conveniently blame others for how they feel or where they are at, and become hardened and unapologetic the more they become part of the movement, and participate in it's defense.

And they are very much for violence, and authoritarian rule. They don't trust Trump, but want someone who would go even further than him to clean up the filth in the country, like the Jews and the N....... thugs and other undesirables, to retake the country back for the white race. What is also apparent is that they are better organized than their opponents, who seem disorganized and all over the place with their actions. The alt-right is also not afraid to die for their beliefs, or use force to get their way. And people wonder why their is growing resistance to them, and I expect that more blood will be spilled, and terrorism, by the alt right group, who are will armed, and are capable of bombing buildings and public places, if they don't they they are being listened to, or get their way.

Here's another video that follows some alt-right white nationalist around:

Response to Scary how relevant a 1947 film is 2017-08-16 11:21:08


There is a lot of similarities between Trumpism and the Nazi/fascist movement, but there is one key difference. With Trump, there is a very significant resistance from both liberal and conservative factions that 1930's Germany did not have (at least not to the extent that we have), not to mention that during the time of Nazi Germany, the Great Depression was in full swing, which only served to embolden them because of a lack of jobs and opportunities to improve their lives among the rank and file and the Treaty of Versailles really did screw Germany badly, something that they took very personally.

Knowing what we know, it's much easier to counter-act against authoritarian leaders like Trump, and the fact that Trump has proven to be massively ineffective in office, along with our disdain with Neo-Nazis, KKK and groups like them is important to note. Having said that, we should acknowledge that they have reappeared and growing in numbers after decades of wallowing in the dark and we as a people (particularly white people) need to denounce and curtail them as much as possible.


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At 8/16/17 11:21 AM, orangebomb wrote: There is a lot of similarities between Trumpism and the Nazi/fascist movement, but there is one key difference. With Trump, there is a very significant resistance from both liberal and conservative factions that 1930's Germany did not have (at least not to the extent that we have), not to mention that during the time of Nazi Germany, the Great Depression was in full swing, which only served to embolden them because of a lack of jobs and opportunities to improve their lives among the rank and file and the Treaty of Versailles really did screw Germany badly, something that they took very personally.

Knowing what we know, it's much easier to counter-act against authoritarian leaders like Trump, and the fact that Trump has proven to be massively ineffective in office, along with our disdain with Neo-Nazis, KKK and groups like them is important to note. Having said that, we should acknowledge that they have reappeared and growing in numbers after decades of wallowing in the dark and we as a people (particularly white people) need to denounce and curtail them as much as possible.

Oh, I agree. I don't think the alt-right white nationalists are as big of a movement as they want people to believe, and there are a lot of checks and balances in place to prevent them from taking over the country. And times are different, with the general public overwhelmingly against their white nationalist ideologies and agenda.

Still, it's scary how Trump, and the alt-right, were able to tap into that fear and hatred that helped them to gain the White House, and seats in Congress, using many of the same tactics that the Nazis used. We may tell ourselves that this type of stuff can't happen in this country, but it did. And while it seems unlikely that Trump, and the alt-right, will ever be comparable to what the Nazis did in Germany, and other countries, it just shows that people need to be more vigilant against people who try to use these Nazi tactics - who have always been terrible for a country on all levels, social, government, economical.

Response to Scary how relevant a 1947 film is 2017-08-17 18:29:12


At 8/17/17 03:44 PM, SamPercy wrote: I think we should be cautious, but careful, we don't want to feed their perception and belief of us with our own attacks or undemocratic moves, they'll use that against all the criticism against them, paint themselves as victims, and win over people who are easily given into emotion, ie, most people

The ironic thing in all this is that these Neo-Nazis are ripping off the BLM movement and act out in fits of violence because they figure that they would get the attention the want. Unlike BLM, who are well-intentioned and could be a force for good if they get consistently organized and keep out the rabble, Neo-Nazis are despised across the board outside of Trump and his scumbag company. My position hasn't changed on protests or with movements in general, as soon as they go violent, Joe 6-pack will (and should) bail out, regardless of sympathy of their cause.

As I said, the alt-right is a very small group that is far more bark than bite, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't everything in our power to negate and contain them wherever possible.


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Response to Scary how relevant a 1947 film is 2017-08-19 21:25:18


At 8/17/17 06:29 PM, orangebomb wrote:

:Unlike BLM, who are well-intentioned and could be a force for good if they get consistently organized and keep out the :rabble

Blacklivesmatter is literally based on a lie and that lie has radicalized black people to kill cops.

As I said, the alt-right is a very small group that is far more bark than bite, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't everything in our power to negate and contain them wherever possible.

The alt-right isn't a group of neo-nazis. I'm more concered with the alt-left and the BLM and Anti-fa terrorists.

Response to Scary how relevant a 1947 film is 2017-08-19 21:49:37


At 8/19/17 09:25 PM, SuperKooter wrote: Blacklivesmatter is literally based on a lie and that lie has radicalized black people to kill cops.

Polic brutality is a real threat they face, which was the whole point of BLM, and they do not advocate killing cops. You can disagree with their methods and the fact that there is no organization or even consistent in their message, but the mainstream BLM do not want to kill cops.

The alt-right isn't a group of neo-nazis. I'm more concered with the alt-left and the BLM and Anti-fa terrorists.

Since when did I say that? The alt-right may not be all neo-Nazis, but they sure do cuddle up to them. While we certainly shouldn't ignore antifa/alt-left, that is a different conversation altogether.


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