At 5/5/13 09:11 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: The American/Canadian public school system is instituted by the state for the state. The same state that is Fascist.

It's kind of not. The Federal Government doesn't have very much control over the school system as it is heavily Federal. States have a little bit more power but the real power lies in the local school districts. Any type of Federal system like that is offensive to Fascists.

At 5/5/13 09:43 PM, stevenman36 wrote:

Your not discussing anything but you are shitting on OP.

Doesn't matter, it's not worth discussing since the OP was the one to initiate it.

You didn't meed to post then.

At 5/5/13 10:17 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 5/5/13 09:11 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: The American/Canadian public school system is instituted by the state for the state. The same state that is Fascist.

It's kind of not. The Federal Government doesn't have very much control over the school system as it is heavily Federal. States have a little bit more power but the real power lies in the local school districts. Any type of Federal system like that is offensive to Fascists.

No matter who is in control it's the propaganda and indoctrination that is corrupt and influenced by the power that be.

Speaking of the op....glad this thread is going so well, even if it has gone a bit off topic.

At 5/5/13 11:54 PM, SirJeffofShorter wrote: Speaking of the op....glad this thread is going so well, even if it has gone a bit off topic.

You can put the blame on leanlifter1, he's been known to derail threads because of some preconceived notion that America is something that it clearly isn't, and is a victim of the sensationalist media and left-wing philosophies which have been proven to be not that good.

At 5/6/13 12:01 AM, orangebomb wrote:

At 5/5/13 11:54 PM, SirJeffofShorter wrote: Speaking of the op....glad this thread is going so well, even if it has gone a bit off topic.

You can put the blame on leanlifter1, he's been known to derail threads because of some preconceived notion that America is something that it clearly isn't, and is a victim of the sensationalist media and left-wing philosophies which have been proven to be not that good.

It was "stevenman36" That I responded to hes the one that derailed this thing and you continued the derailing and now I responded to you. nice try though but the blame is equally on anyone whom responds to this thread now.

I really don't care one way or another. People are going to say what they're going to say and blaming them for their own thoughts is pointless. Enjoy yourself and don't worry about judging other people.

This is a forum, not a debate. All views are welcome.

At 5/5/13 11:30 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: No matter who is in control it's the propaganda and indoctrination that is corrupt and influenced by the power that be.

No because the only people they're essentially accountable to are the parents of their students. Thus it is insanely difficult to provide indoctrination one the scale you're talking about. The best is that the state can buy textbooks which give a warped view of history, but even then that is only the normal class, AP Classes for example are dictated by a private group called the College Board. Thus overall the power in education is so decentralized that a Fascist propaganda machine is impossible. Any Fascist dictator would be furious over how little control they had. That sentence does not even apply to this in particular, it applied to everything I just talked about in this thread. The main exception is probably foreign policy.

At 5/6/13 12:28 AM, Warforger wrote:

At 5/5/13 11:30 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: No matter who is in control it's the propaganda and indoctrination that is corrupt and influenced by the power that be.

No because the only people they're essentially accountable to are the parents of their students. Thus it is insanely difficult to provide indoctrination one the scale you're talking about. The best is that the state can buy textbooks which give a warped view of history, but even then that is only the normal class, AP Classes for example are dictated by a private group called the College Board. Thus overall the power in education is so decentralized that a Fascist propaganda machine is impossible. Any Fascist dictator would be furious over how little control they had. That sentence does not even apply to this in particular, it applied to everything I just talked about in this thread. The main exception is probably foreign policy.

Modern education breeds Bankers, Lawyers, Politicians, and other scum not to mention upholders of the proverbial statuesque. Did you know that by the time a professional student gets out of school with a degree in whatever that they are already debt enslaved to the Bankster cartel. Often people that pursued a degree cannot even find work in their chosen field and they are then forced into menial work for peanuts to pay back exorbitant amounts of debt from prior student loans.

At 5/4/13 03:39 PM, Osyris wrote: if people are required to get auto insurance, then so should we be required to get health insurance. For an uninsured person, just breaking your arm can turn your finances upside down, and hospitals are forced to treat them if they go to the ER.

You aren't required to get auto insurance by Federal Law. That is a state law, and even then, driving is not a constitutional right. You don't NEED to drive, if you don't want to. Everyone at some point WILL NEED medical insurance

The solution is NOT to pass a law that burdens poor americans and small businesses with an insurance bill. These people have already forgone insurance because they can't afford it as is. Obamacare only exasperates the problem because it will raise healthcare prices, and require an insurance bill every month that normal americans can't afford as it is.

If Obamacare is so great, why is Obama and Congress trying to exempt themselves from it?

Hoover already showed that laissez-faire didn't work for shit. Bailouts are needed in order to keep the economy on the path of recovery

Hoover was a progressive. If anything, he proved merging of corporate and state power doesn't work. He was far from laissez-faire. In fact America has never been a laissez-faire nation. in fact, in many ways, it's always been the opposite.

Some industries are more "laissez-faire" than others. And you will see that in almost every leap in technology or medicine, it has been free enterprise and capitalism that made it happen.

BTW, people becoming poorer as the rich stay/become richer, is not a "recovery path".

At 4/24/13 07:45 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

At 4/24/13 07:14 PM, GameChild214 wrote: Fascism isn't that bad, Nazi Germany before WW2 was one of the best places to live! As long as you weren't jewish, polish, gypsy, serbian, communist, err well ya know!

Your ignorance and vague grasp of simple fundamentals of meaning is typical of these forums which is why I do not frequent them LOL. Good luck to you.

Don't lie, I see you on almost every thread that even glances the topic of anything pertaining to the USA. And your ignorance is just shocking...

At 5/8/13 03:23 AM, lilfozzy wrote:

Don't lie, I see you on almost every thread that even glances the topic of anything pertaining to the USA. And your ignorance is just shocking...

I haven't been posting regularly around here much for months actually. I just came off a long hiatus.

At 5/5/13 12:43 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Those whom believe that they are truly free are the most hopelessly enslaved. Jacque Fresco

You're going to need to give me some reasons to retort what I said, not just a quote.

At 5/6/13 03:00 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: Modern education breeds Bankers, Lawyers, Politicians, and other scum not to mention upholders of the proverbial statuesque.

Oh so Bankers, Lawyers and Politicans are all automatically scum and any school system which creates those kinds of people whether or not they've done any crime is fascist?

Did you know that by the time a professional student gets out of school with a degree in whatever that they are already debt enslaved to the Bankster cartel.

Just because you owe someone money doesn't mean you have to do what they tell you to do well other than paying them their money back.

Often people that pursued a degree cannot even find work in their chosen field and they are then forced into menial work for peanuts to pay back exorbitant amounts of debt from prior student loans.

So anyone who pursues a degree is any field outside of Law and financial institutions cannot find a job?

the america pepole no, the captilist in charge yes

Oh so Bankers, Lawyers and Politicans are all automatically scum and any school system which creates those kinds of people whether or not they've done any crime is fascist?
Just because you owe someone money doesn't mean you have to do what they tell you to do well other than paying them their money back.
So anyone who pursues a degree is any field outside of Law and financial institutions cannot find a job?

yes

At 5/13/13 11:00 PM, soulcailber wrote: So anyone who pursues a degree is any field outside of Law and financial institutions cannot find a job?

What does this have to do with anything? Also, that statement is flat out wrong, seeing as new law graduates have an employment rating hovering around 50%.

At 5/14/13 08:27 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 5/13/13 11:00 PM, soulcailber wrote: So anyone who pursues a degree is any field outside of Law and financial institutions cannot find a job?

What does this have to do with anything? Also, that statement is flat out wrong, seeing as new law graduates have an employment rating hovering around 50%.

You're replying to a quote from another user whose saying the exact thing as you in that Lawyers can find work.

At 5/14/13 02:18 PM, Lumber-Jax12 wrote: You're replying to a quote from another user whose saying the exact thing as you in that Lawyers can find work.

I was saying that lawyers cannot find work.

At 5/14/13 08:27 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 5/13/13 11:00 PM, soulcailber wrote: So anyone who pursues a degree is any field outside of Law and financial institutions cannot find a job?

What does this have to do with anything? Also, that statement is flat out wrong, seeing as new law graduates have an employment rating hovering around 50%.

50/50 LOL how pathetic.