So this is something I'm sure has crossed our mind once in a while. Now when it comes down to it I feel both sites are a great place for art. Here's my point of view on it.
Newgrounds is a site based off quality and discovering established artists.
deviantArt is a place to share your art with other artists, and discovering the artist within.

Newground pros:
-The strict judgement system makes sure that mostly quality pieces get on the site.
-Its quite respectable to certain people be affiliated with ng.
-Sponsorship for artists for Tom, if good enough.
-If featured you gain some good exposure
-Honest criticism given by users.
-One of the best sites for flash games.
-Active admins

Newgournds cons
-The site is extremely inconvenient for checking comments, reviews, really any form of feedback.(possibly fixed in redesign)
-If you don't some kind of feature. The submission is usually barely seen, no real way to advertise yourself without being dependent on others.
-The only way ng enforces rules is usually just deleting, submissions/accounts, which can be extremely harsh for some.
-Voting system easily rigged.
-If your not an established artist, you have no business submitting.
-Asking anyone but Tom/staff for money usually gets you lased by users.
-Earlier signup dates somehow make you better/more intelligent, in forums.

Newgrounds user stereotype is, that everyone is an intimidating dick that's out to troll or attack users for the way they live their lives or express themselves through art. Although there is a solid group of people like this, and some of them are actually praised for this in some cases. A majority of ng is not like this.

deviantArt pros
-Site is very active, with submissions coming in by the second.
-The active community is a few million people
-Its convenient for checking notifications.
-You get updates for your favorite artists instantly.
-You can customize the kind of content your mostly exposed to with the watch function. Making it much easier to share your art independently.
-Groups are a good way to gain exposure.
-Its acceptable to ask users for money for your art.
-Users tent to be loyal to the site because they learned art from the users
-There are some well known artists/animators from tv shows that are active

deviantArt cons
-Critique is usually a touchy subject, some users will attack you if they disagree, even if its not their business to but in.
-There can be quite a bit of crap flowing in the "recent submissions" area.
-The staff is very hard to contact and inconvenient to talk to.
-Its easy to get well known, but sometimes for the wrong reason.
-Negative comments usually come with a price.
-White knighting happens quite a bit

deviantArt stereotype is that everyone is an annoying weeaboo, which its very accepted there. I can say a majority of the users are not. Although there is a strong cult of them. There isn't a lot compared to the entire site.

idk this is what what I observed from being on both sites over the years. What do you guys think?

Prediction:

Newgrounds wins!!! I wonder why...

I have never ever seen a negative comment on deviantart, everybody is licking each others balls.
Sure it's good for your ego but when you need to prove youself in the real business you will get crushed by critisism.

Ng is the one website I will always feel at home on.

Redesign doesn't address notifications but starts some early versions of a "feed" for people you have favorited. Expect that to quickly ramp-up after launch though so hopefully we'll be good to go in the notifications department before long.

At 1/11/12 11:37 AM, TomFulp wrote: Redesign doesn't address notifications but starts some early versions of a "feed" for people you have favorited. Expect that to quickly ramp-up after launch though so hopefully we'll be good to go in the notifications department before long.

This, I'll be looking forward to.

I guess we'll see soon, but will this be somewhat like Twitter, or like Facebook is now with the feed on the side? Either way, it will be much more favorable to see easily what artists I enjoy are doing than going to each of their individual user pages. I think it will connect animators, audio and art artists with their followers more too, right here on NG rather than on social networking sites alone.

Oh shoot, sorry for the double post. I forgot to combine my responses!

At 1/11/12 11:35 AM, Angry-Banana wrote: I have never ever seen a negative comment on deviantart, everybody is licking each others balls.
Sure it's good for your ego but when you need to prove youself in the real business you will get crushed by critisism.

I rarely see negative feedback on DA, which makes me inclined to think that a lot of people even here on Newgrounds sometimes prefer it because all they get is positive feedback. I love how harsh people on Ng can be sometimes (although there are still a lot of people sucking up to the bigger artists). Critique is a lot better here for whatever reason, and I think it's because Newgrounds is much more organized than DeviantArt in many aspects so it's easier to to leave a strong critique -- there is even a club here that encourages it's 'attendees' to go out of their way to leave strong, realistic critiques.

On DA if you leave a negative critique, sometimes others will jump on you and try to slit your proverbial throat for putting down the art in any way, shape or form. It's kind of annoying.

Overall though, I'd say Newgrounds is better in more ways. DA is a mess to navigate, is annoying to look at sometimes, and is more of a place to showcase than critique or be really serious. I like that you can buy art straight from it, advertise commissions easily with a main user page rather than news posts, and just the sheer amount of stuff being submitted every moment (Newgrounds is similar, but I'm not sure which gets more submissions in general). Newgrounds is more professional, though. I like how the artistic endeavors aren't a shit show, too -- the Flash, Audio, and Art portals are all separate entities so that it's not just a jumble of everything. It's easier to navigate and find stuff here. The site looks nicer and is more user-friendly. The standard of work is a lot higher (At least more often! I know there is a ton of crap here as well) because of the judgment system. I could go on, but I'll stop here!

I never liked deviant art. I also hate it when a newgrounds artist has more on his/her deviant than on the art portal.

-If you don't some kind of feature. The submission is usually barely seen, no real way to advertise yourself without being dependent on others.

You're right, but there's probably a good reason. Anybody and their grandma can get into my level of skill and I have very, very limited (small) awards. If I were to improve, I may get better and get noticed by the portal.

I haven't tinkered with Deviant Art a lot. Newgrounds is home. However, from what I can gather, it's a lot like Youtube. A free for all. No judgment period like the flash portal.

See, the set up of the flash portal is wonderful. You're basically guaranteed 200 views on your submission before it leaves judgment. If it's any good, you'll gain the "Great score" label where your flash is colored in green. Then you'll gain about an extra 300 views or so. They may love it and vote it up.

If it's just balls deep fantastic, you'll get enough votes and make it rise Awesome Score. Then you'll gain more and more viewers. If you win a Daily, even more. So, then there's the daily feature, review crew pick, weekly. All these awards given by Newgrounds to get you noticed.

At 1/11/12 11:37 AM, TomFulp wrote: Redesign doesn't address notifications but starts some early versions of a "feed" for people you have favorited.

And this is another thing you can ramp up on you pro list for Newgrounds. Aside from having the active staff. Tom, personally, will time to time (probably more often) find threads or the like that shows opinions of the site.

Call it, a caring administration.

I have a huge bias, so I won't argue about it.

At 1/11/12 11:37 AM, TomFulp wrote: Redesign doesn't address notifications but starts some early versions of a "feed" for people you have favorited. Expect that to quickly ramp-up after launch though so hopefully we'll be good to go in the notifications department before long.

And thus deviantART's only good feature will eventually be defeated by Newgrounds. I'll give the site credit for telling me when my subscriptions post something or I get a comment/response. However, there's sites like Facebook that have been more effective with the use of notifications.

How can being intelligent a Con?

At 1/11/12 12:47 PM, Narcissy wrote:

And this is another thing you can ramp up on you pro list for Newgrounds. Aside from having the active staff. Tom, personally, will time to time (probably more often) find threads or the like that shows opinions of the site.

Call it, a caring administration.

Oh, and this too! The administration/staff on here is so involved with the community, and I think that's been a large factor in Newground's success. It has definitely created a huge following and a sense of a strong community for all of the users on here. Tom does his best to give back to everyone and endlessly tries to please and make this site even more that what it already is. I love the dedication, and I think users give back by trying to make it a better site as well.

Look at all the icon mods and users who try to give excellent reviews, or people setting up accounts so that Flash artists can share revenue with charities. This is just a small example of how the users themselves are trying to improve this site and put Ng on a whole other level. People truly care about it and others' experiences here, and I don't really notice this 'unity' on DeviantArt so much.

I'm biased too.

At 1/11/12 12:32 PM, MaartenC wrote: I never liked deviant art. I also hate it when a newgrounds artist has more on his/her deviant than on the art portal.

Because Deviantart is more like a dump when you can submit all your art, but Newgrounds is the place where you submit your GREAT art. Especially for new members who are looking to be scouted.

I love and use both sites for what they do best.

For my stories I upload them onto deviantART, and I use it for looking at others drawings and literature. As well as getting feedback and talking to some other artists.

For forums and flash and users I use Newgrounds, the forums here are the best I have found and I love the simple and convenient style. The users who post here are interesting and amusing and I love the people I talk to on here, and the posting is always amusing. I also like to use this site over deviantART for flash since it is more suited to hosting flash files.

I regularly use both sites as my main 2 websites.

At 1/11/12 01:15 PM, BananasFoster wrote:

I'm biased too.

The biased brotherhood of Newgrounds.

At 1/11/12 11:37 AM, TomFulp wrote: Redesign doesn't address notifications but starts some early versions of a "feed" for people you have favorited. Expect that to quickly ramp-up after launch though so hopefully we'll be good to go in the notifications department before long.

That would be great to see. In the world we live in today convenience is what people look for over any other feature of a website.

At 1/11/12 12:50 PM, Bahamut wrote: And thus deviantART's only good feature will eventually be defeated by Newgrounds. I'll give the site credit for telling me when my subscriptions post something or I get a comment/response. However, there's sites like Facebook that have been more effective with the use of notifications.

There is actually a certain quality that Newgrounds is missing over that though. The constant judgement causes people to be intimidated to post their lesser quality work. Thats why some artist feel more comfortable posting everything they have ever drawn on dA is because some things just don't need to be picked apart. Its about more than just those features its the atmosphere too. Thats why some artists are just more active on dA cause they feel there is room for error.

DeviantArt - deviant art which grows on sterilized ground. Newgrounds- new art which grows on deviant ground.

I think that Newgrounds has still gotten the most Internet memes created, while there aren't that many Deviantart memes. Of course, Deviantart probably gets like twice the number of views we have. It reminds me of this picture in Guinness World Records that showed every website by how frequently it was visited. Google was represented as the biggest picture and there were literally hundreds of small ones. I bet we're in that picture somewhere.

At 1/11/12 11:37 AM, TomFulp wrote: Redesign doesn't address notifications but starts some early versions of a "feed" for people you have favorited. Expect that to quickly ramp-up after launch though so hopefully we'll be good to go in the notifications department before long.

Holy Fuck Tom, are you turning this place into a social networking site?

That would be really messed up.... but really awesome at the same time.

I like that deviantART has a much broader range of categories for art submissions. But like someone else mentioned before, it does feel like it's all dumped together and it's hard to get critiques since people just show their adoration by just 'faving' the piece. Newgrounds has a much more responsive critiquing system that also, thanks to there being guidelines on how to leave reviews, helps the artist much more than a typical comment left on dA.

I do use both though. Hell I had it open on another tab while I read this thread. Having both isn't a bad idea if you're looking to get stuff out there.

At 1/11/12 11:29 AM, PoopyMcButt wrote:

-Earlier signup dates somehow make you better/more intelligent, in forums.

Whoever think like this needs to take his eltist head out of his level 40 ass. Nobody fuckin cares and I despise users who do. Congratulations your a user from 2007, 2002 etc. big deal.

idk this is what what I observed from being on both sites over the years. What do you guys think?

Youre pretty much spot on. Deviant art has this "don't have nothing good to say don't say nothing at all" mentality. Which does more harm then good. Also deviant art isn't really that focused on other works such as flash, which seems to be pushed to the wayside.Let alone not having any games period.

New grounds wins by default by having more content for the users to partake in, As well as everything that deviant art has new grounds does 100X better.

I use both but I like NG more :3

I like NG more because unlike deviantArt, you can get REAL critiques. Here there's the fair share of sugar coating, but at least it's better than having no critiques at all.

The only way you can get in-depth critiques is through premium membership, but that's too stupid.
Why pay for critiques when you can get them for free over here?

I think if there's one reason Newgrounds is better than Deviantart it's because it's easier to watch the NSFW stuff. In fact, NG in general has a lot more NSFW material than Deviantart does. That might only be because I forgot my Deviantart password and am not allowed to see the stuff that has the mature content on it. In general, we're still more rough. Then again, I've never tried to look at adult content while not signed in.

It's much easier to get fetish pornography from DeviantArt.

Ergo, DeviantArt wins.

At 1/12/12 11:49 AM, Stocking wrote: It's much easier to get fetish pornography from DeviantArt.

Ergo, DeviantArt wins.

I don't think so. Beacuase Newgrounds have lots more porn and hentai.

Every time when i go to DeviantArt i see alot of gays and emo things, so...

Newgrounds Wins.

At 1/12/12 12:01 PM, JoaoGabriel wrote:

At 1/12/12 11:49 AM, Stocking wrote: It's much easier to get fetish pornography from DeviantArt.

Ergo, DeviantArt wins.

I don't think so. Beacuase Newgrounds have lots more porn and hentai.

Are you kidding? DeviantArt is full of furry porn and porn photos disguised as "artistic nudity".

At 1/11/12 11:37 AM, TomFulp wrote: Redesign doesn't address notifications but starts some early versions of a "feed" for people you have favorited. Expect that to quickly ramp-up after launch though so hopefully we'll be good to go in the notifications department before long.

looking forward

At 1/12/12 12:01 PM, JoaoGabriel wrote: I don't think so. Beacuase Newgrounds have lots more porn and hentai.

Every time when i go to DeviantArt i see alot of gays and emo things, so...

Newgrounds Wins.

Tentacle rape and hentai parodies are so vanilla.

If you want the really interesting stuff, DeviantArt's the place to go.

At 1/11/12 11:29 AM, PoopyMcButt wrote: -The only way ng enforces rules is usually just deleting, submissions/accounts, which can be extremely harsh for some.

I don't understand this point.

DevArt also delete submissions*,
and NG very rarely deletes accounts - and accounts that are deleted are really taking the piss.

*although they take forever to delete stolen artwork, which is pathetic.

Deviantart is apparently more popular but I think the #1 most viewed thing they have there is like something with 6 million views, while the most viewed thing we have has over 35 million views. You would think they would get more views and I guess to a certain extent they do. I was thinking it might be because they have so many pictures, but then again, YouTube has like videos with over 100 million views and they have the most videos.