At 12/4/11 09:11 AM, Korriken wrote: I have yet to see any solid proof.
So then, of course logically, that means you just jump to the conclusion that they're lying? Yep, perfect sense that makes.
nah, i just find that all of a sudden all these women almost at the same time all come rushing out with their accusations to take cain down to be too convenient.
I won't deny the timing seems very suspicious. But this could be more about "let's go get ourselves a pay day now that he's got some serious money coming in, and every reason in the world to settle". On the other hand it could be a case where they were harrassed, and felt like they couldn't come forward until now for whatever reason (sometimes people don't report these sorts of things immediately).
I get the feeling someone (probably another republican) (perry perhaps?) pulled their strings, and put some money or something in their pocket to come out and say something because they realized cain was one hell of a threat to their campaign.
Eh, while I certainly can't dismiss it since people have done some shady shit in primaries (Hilary's camp starting all that "stealth Muslim" crap on Obama), this one just seems the least likely conclusion to draw without evidence. Especially since it's more likely that this is either a true thing, or if it's false, it's more the scenario I laid out. That makes more sense to me then the other, especially since this primary has really been all about certain candidates getting super hot, and flaming out at some point down the line. I couldn't see Cain getting the nod, I really couldn't. I still say it's Romney until I see somebody "better" and more able to sustain a lead popping up. I think Cain said a lot of things that conservatives like to hear, but when actually pressed for details, ideas, and understanding...fell sort of flat.
intimidated? doubt it.
Based on what?
As far as the race itself...yeah, as already is pointed out, the Republican electorate is confusing me enormously here.
The guiding light has seemed for awhile "anybody but Romney". Trying to find a superstar that appeals to the two base constituencies (evanlegicals and neo-cons) but can also sway independents in the way Obama did in 08. Good luck with that! Especially because I think a lot of people who bought into that cult of personality and were then disappointed will be less likely to fall for that again no matter the party affiliation of the candidate.
yeah the primary is gonna be fun, and nasty. if the economy doesn't pick up a lot more, or worse, if it actually goes deeper into the shitter, the election is going to be a LOT of fun watching Obama's campaign throw every negative ad they can at the republican candidate.
We are seeing some uptick. He's got that, he's got the fact that he can say he kept the promise on Iraq, and a few other things going for him. Also if he's running against Romney, the healthcare card is dead...since essentially what got passed is Mitt Romney's plan he was touting during his last campaign. Can't rail against something that was your idea to begin with.
on the bright side, there's always 2016.. if we ever get that far.
Call me a hopeless optimist, but I have to think we'll figure out a way through the current quagmire...or maybe that's just a case of "you HAVE to hope for that...the alternative is too scary to even contemplate"