At 3/16/09 03:44 PM, catd77 wrote: My Macs are better then all my windows computers. Unless you want to spend a lot (which is why many people us PC's in the first place, the price) you can't get a PC as good as a Mac. Even a custom build that isn't about the price of a Mac is not as good.

Are you kidding me? If you look at the hardware specs of any Mac the specs are absolutely terrible for the price. The only thing they have going for them is the OS which, as rig said, is easily emulated on a PC.

At 3/16/09 04:12 PM, YourFutureMaster wrote:

At 3/16/09 03:44 PM, catd77 wrote: My Macs are better then all my windows computers. Unless you want to spend a lot (which is why many people us PC's in the first place, the price) you can't get a PC as good as a Mac. Even a custom build that isn't about the price of a Mac is not as good.

Are you kidding me? If you look at the hardware specs of any Mac the specs are absolutely terrible for the price. The only thing they have going for them is the OS which, as rig said, is easily emulated on a PC.

Unfortunately, I checked the system specs of a modern Mac-Pro. And it's specifications own my computer's. I actually think a 2.93GHz Processor with an idle power of somewhere around 3.30 is good. Because, it's around 0.35GHz faster than my computer's processor. As well as the FUCKING FOUR Slots to insert hard disks. Up to 4TB of storage, I'm not even going to compare my computer's HDD to 4TB. I feel so sad now.

At 3/16/09 05:20 PM, killslasher wrote: Unfortunately, I checked the system specs of a modern Mac-Pro. And it's specifications own my computer's. I actually think a 2.93GHz Processor with an idle power of somewhere around 3.30 is good. Because, it's around 0.35GHz faster than my computer's processor. As well as the FUCKING FOUR Slots to insert hard disks. Up to 4TB of storage, I'm not even going to compare my computer's HDD to 4TB. I feel so sad now.

It is also WAY overpriced. You could get a PC with those specs (or assemble/upgrade one) for much less than the cost of that computer.

At 3/16/09 06:13 PM, YourFutureMaster wrote:

At 3/16/09 05:20 PM, killslasher wrote: Unfortunately, I checked the system specs of a modern Mac-Pro. And it's specifications own my computer's. I actually think a 2.93GHz Processor with an idle power of somewhere around 3.30 is good. Because, it's around 0.35GHz faster than my computer's processor. As well as the FUCKING FOUR Slots to insert hard disks. Up to 4TB of storage, I'm not even going to compare my computer's HDD to 4TB. I feel so sad now.

It is also WAY overpriced. You could get a PC with those specs (or assemble/upgrade one) for much less than the cost of that computer.

Well, I checked to see the prices, and I was amazed. A full $2899 for the quad core processor computer. But if you want an 8-core(Holy fuck, I've never heard of the godlike power of an 8-core processor!), it costs $3799! By the way, the processors are 2.93GHz Each, that's more than my computer (Single-core) has, then times eight!

But anyways, I went on ebay, and looked up a bunch of fast computer parts, just to compile the cost of it. Also, that new Ipod shuffle is amazingly small.

Overall Price of Comparable computer

-Video Card = 56
-Ram = 44
-Processor = 276
-Motherboard = 80
-Sound Card = 8
-Hard Drive = 128 X4 to equal the power of Mac's 4TB = 512
-DVD Drive = 50
-Power Supply = 45

All of that equals $1071. I've heard Mac products use 512MB Video Cards, I threw in a 1GB Video card to balance the fact how I couldn't find any 2.93+ Quad core processors. But still, HALF THE PRICE! Also, I can't believe they could produce a 2.93 x 8 processor...

Now compare 1071 to 2799... Yeah, you were right.

At 3/16/09 04:54 AM, Sawdust wrote: Refer to the image.

Internet?
Because it takes SOO much technical know-how to run a browser.

At 3/16/09 03:44 PM, catd77 wrote: Unless you want to spend a lot (which is why many people us PC's in the first place, the price) you can't get a PC as good as a Mac. Even a custom build that isn't about the price of a Mac is not as good.

Nehalem Mac Pro:
2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-core Nehalem-based Intel Xeon processors
6 GB 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC memory
compatible server board
640 GB 7200-RPM SATA2 HDD
Nvidia GeForce GT 120 512 MB
sound card
DVD-RW drive
case
mouse
keyboard

Apple's price: $3,299

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PC build, close as possible to Apple spec:

NehalemEP (2 x 2.66) Rumored 577.98
Supermicro X8DTL-i Nehalem-EP 350
Silverstone OP1000 229.99
Crucial 6gb ddr3 1333 ECC 153
Case - Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 189
WD Caviar Green WD6400AACS 69.99
BFG Geforce 9500 GT (~= GT120) 69.99
Microsoft Laser Wireless Desktop (kb/m) 31.99
Samsung 22x DVD+-RW 24.99
Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-E Pro 124

Price: $1820.93

Over $1,200 cheaper than if you bought it from Apple.

Thanks, Tom's Hardware!

At 3/17/09 12:58 AM, Samen wrote: Because it takes SOO much technical know-how to run a browser.

No, no it doesn't. I was going to write in NGers but I changed it to Internet, to refer to all of the technically knowledged geeks on the internet.

My point is that you guys are making fun of something not marketed for you. In fact, I think the fact that Apple overprices this stuff is a kick in the balls to people who are too simple minded to look for and have a decent computer built. So yeah cool

At 3/17/09 01:17 AM, Rig wrote:

Computer specs

Thank you for collecting and quantifying data that backs up my points. This proves one of the points I tried to make in my thread about macs being too expensive for their hardware specs.

At 3/17/09 01:19 AM, Sawdust wrote:

At 3/17/09 12:58 AM, Samen wrote: Because it takes SOO much technical know-how to run a browser.

No, no it doesn't. I was going to write in NGers but I changed it to Internet, to refer to all of the technically knowledged geeks on the internet.

Why didn't you specify that you only meant technically knowledgeable geeks?

Macs don't have good software. All they've got are kiddie games and tax programs. That is why PC's outrun Macs every time.

AND in MacWorld, their obviously biased magazine, they're always ripping on Microsoft by saying they speed past them like a bullet (hardly).

So, this one time, on the Apple website, I went to look at their desktop, and then I chose all the top options and it came to well over $30,000. I almost shat a chicken. The Apple shop in London is bloody cool though.

Who would pay $500 for another 2GB of RAM let alone decide to get 32GB? Fuck you Apple.