This song is pretty good, even with the synthesizers.
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This song is pretty good, even with the synthesizers.
It's nice to see another living person that plays DOOM :)
For a tribute to Doom, this may not be the best I have ever heard but it pretty much rocks! Despite having synthesizers that you dislike, you did an amazing job nonetheless so don't feel bad if the song did not turn out how you wanted it to be.
Hey, I just caught this! Thank you kindly for the words of encouragement. I do sincerely appreciate it, I've been working on this song for a long time and currently it's kind of in an unfinished stage where I'm trying to punch up the synthesizers and re-record the things I felt were lacking.
But thanks for the review!
Well, Doom and Metal are both right up my street audio-wise, and I fugging love Cheshyre (The Rise of Cheshyre especially). I am listening to this tune twice as I work, and I recognise the Doom levels in the music, I think the metalification of Doom while retain a recognisable Doom sound comes across really well.
Some Further notes:
It's not all yes,yes,yes -- in the early parts of the tune - the first minute or so, especially, the snare sound just makes the whole audio come across as somewhat cheap and, er, 8-bit. I hope this can be improved with some higher quality mixing.
Yes, the mixing does need to be re-engineered, I can't provide advise as to how or what, but I think with some significant tweaks to the mixing this would sound a huge amount better (and it's good as it is, so...) .
One point: at 5:00 mark, the change between two different tunes does somewhat kill the flow of the sound, are you able to juggle the music blocks around or do some sort of fades (possibly with the background base from the secret level 9 on Doom 1, which is a fantastically haunting tune, originally). Yes perhaps use the sounds you used for the last 30 seconds as a bridge at the 5minute mark?
Improving the synthesizers is also going to make a difference but I think this will be further down the importance than getting a good mixing setup.
Also on another note -- Once you've redone this and tweaked this piece, set this jazz up on Soundcloud and add a paypal donations button for your time and troubles. I am not downloading this from NG right now as I'm pretty confident that you can sort out an even better quality version soon enough.
Regards the metalness of the piece, it's excellent, the tempo is good without being frantic, Perhaps the tweaking of making the guitar a 'richer' sound, (I imagine the guitars would be a little more like from Machine Head - Unto The Locust ), but it's a good "solid" sound in its current form.
A very good effort, as in, an extremely good effort and I for one appreciate being able to hear this work. Get the mixing sorted, get the snare at the first 30seconds sorted, get the bridge at 5:00 mark done, and bang you'll be pretty much there as an incredible piece of Doom sounds.
My Doom favourites:
Episode 1-9 (bonus level)
The Rise of Cheshyre
You know, it's funny... I ask for detailed reviews and then I find it hard to come up with responses to actually long, detailed reviews like this :P So then I take days typing out a thoughtful response, tweaking it, modifying my sentence structure... Oftentimes I delay responding because I feel like I won't be doing the review justice if I don't put as much effort into responding as the reviewer did reviewing.
After your other message on my page however, I realize I shouldn't worry so heavily about these things and should instead simply provide my side as opposed to what I "think" one would want to hear from me. I don't know why I still do this, but I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to this review.
First off, thank you kindly for taking the time to listen to my song and write me out this detailed review. It's seriously helpful for the creative process.
My mixing skills are somewhat lax as of this date, but it's because I haven't whipped them out for practice reasons in a very long time. I know I can make this song sound cleanly mixed, a joy to the ear at any dB. It's definitely going to take some time... but most things worth doing do.
LandR is out for now. I'll do it by hand.
From the beginning onward I am starting to understand what you mean by the snare being lackluster or bitcrushed. This is in part the work of my samples, but it's also partially the FX I placed on the snare. Especially in the beginning, I have a triggered snare hit along with the regular one and for the minimalist beginning I feel like it's unnecessary.
The 5:00 mark was always a point of conflict for me. Because the song 'Facing the Spider' actually begins with a long drawn out introductory chord, I always thought I could just taper off a single power note into the blood and bone of the song. After a few listens, I know I can make this transition clearer and less of a moodkill.
I know the synthesizers are, well... bad. Especially for what I want to include in this song. It's definitely going to take some time to make them sound as acid-bass as I want. But that's EXACTLY what I want. I need certain parts of this song to sound, well... Industrial. If I can't achieve this I will be sorely disappointed and I want to make this song as legitimately killer as I can.
I LOVE that you mentioned "Unto the Locust", as it turns out that is one of my all time favorite individual tracks. The fullness of Machine Head's guitar sound in that song (and the entire album) is so fucking quality that if I can even get around to emulating 50% of it I feel like I will be happy. As of right now though, the guitars in this piece don't even have compression applied to them sooooooo that's all going to be up to how well I do in the final mixing phase.
I get the feeling I'm going to really start hating this song by the time I'm finished with it because I will have heard it so many times through mixing :P
i can actually envision myself playing doom with this music, especially brutal doom. it fits perfectly. hell you should make a doom music wad. cause i know for a fact ill use it. damn nice work.
If I had any semblance of an idea on how to put this into a Where's All the Data file, I totally would. From what I understood a .WAD file couldn't accept an .mp3... then again it's been about 13 years since I've checked into doom modding and I can only imagine how much stronger it's grown since then.
Maybe if I get a "How to" guide on it I'll check into it further but for now, and especially with this version being the "Work in progress" version, I think if someone wanted to go out of their way to make it work within the actual game they definitely should.
On a related note: Brutal doom is fucking great.
Also, thanks for the review! I'm glad you liked what you heard, I hope I can deliver with the final mix, which I will hopefully have my recording equipment ready for soon.
Please contact me if you would like to use this in a project. We can discuss the details.