At 1/9/05 09:15 PM, Tal-con wrote:

Well ya know, the reason we have church on Sunday and not Saturday (The Jewish Sabbath) is because of Pagan influences as well. This is true, and i can prove it. Long ago the Catholic churches wanted to apeal to Pagans, so they moved their day to the same day the Pagans worshipped their sun Gods. (Sun GODS, Sun DAY, hinthint,winkwink,nodnod).

Thats true, it was modeled after the Egyptian holy day. The emperor Constintene (Roman) did that.

At 1/9/05 09:15 PM, Tal-con wrote: Well ya know, the reason we have church on Sunday and not Saturday (The Jewish Sabbath) is because of Pagan influences as well. This is true, and i can prove it.

I know you can prove it, I've been to that site, lol. If you don't know what I'm talking about, there's a site that explains that entire thing, I think it's somewhere among the many posts in this thread, but I don't feel like digging it up.

Hell, I just want to be refered to as Tal-con the Typo Trnaslater.

I'm tempted to correct your typo, but I'll refrain from it Mr. Bon Bon :-)

Meh, i suppose it's up for interpretation.

I was hoping to hear more about your interpretation. Are you born-again?

They should make a commercialist figure for Chanukah like we do for Christmas (Santa Claus)... How does Chanukah Harry sound? Omish-looking dude with a gold tooth and Old Testament in one hand and Star of David in another. (Haha, i joke, no offense =p)

haha that made me laugh... you could change your sig to "Doing my part to piss off the radical right and commercialize other religion's holidays.

At 1/8/05 03:17 PM, corupthamster1 wrote: ok i saw a speciale on television aboute the rise of the church of satan

The actualy church of satan is just as stupid as christianity itself.
Lavey started the new one just really as a mockery of
the christian faith, but then people started getting serious and
now it's al silly crap, just like the beliefe system it set out
to annoy.

At 1/10/05 08:36 AM, Enoll wrote:

At 1/8/05 03:17 PM, corupthamster1 wrote: ok i saw a speciale on television aboute the rise of the church of satan

The actualy church of satan is just as stupid as christianity itself.

why do you continue to mock christianity with every thing you say? is it you life calling to be a annoying prick that harrasses peepl you dislike? i think you have some deep seeded problem with christianity that you need to work on go to therapy or something cus ytou need it.

At 1/6/05 07:03 AM, Enoll wrote: Funny how alot Christians celebrate halloween without guilt.

do you even know what halloween is about?i remember when i was in grade 2 and someone asked if halloween is the devils birthday and the preist said no,then he said that people thought that evil creatures came out so they drested up in costumes to scare them away

At 1/10/05 04:28 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: he said that people thought that evil creatures came out so they drested up in costumes to scare them away

I have always thought it a pagan holiday, I have never heard that before. (not saying your wrong, just that I have never heard that)

At 1/10/05 04:31 PM, -DivineCrusader- wrote:
I have always thought it a pagan holiday, I have never heard that before. (not saying your wrong, just that I have never heard that)

i have heard on tv that a group of people called the drewins or somthing worshiped satan on that day,but i dont know i guess i'll ask a priest.but i do know for sure that that is why they dressed up

At 1/10/05 04:31 PM, -DivineCrusader- wrote:

At 1/10/05 04:28 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: he said that people thought that evil creatures came out so they drested up in costumes to scare them away

I have always thought it a pagan holiday, I have never heard that before. (not saying your wrong, just that I have never heard that)

This is from the history channel it may provide a more specific story to the origins of holloween.

http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/halloween/holiday_origins1.html

At 1/10/05 05:23 PM, ScaryDeadGirl wrote: This is from the history channel it may provide a more specific story to the origins of holloween.

Thanks SDG, I look foward to having this settled. I'm going to read it now.

At 1/10/05 04:28 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote:

At 1/6/05 07:03 AM, Enoll wrote: Funny how alot Christians celebrate halloween without guilt.

do you even know what halloween is about?i remember when i was in grade 2 and someone asked if halloween is the devils birthday and the preist said no,then he said that people thought that evil creatures came out so they drested up in costumes to scare them away

i have heard the same thing but i dont think its true and it really dosent matter the orgin but wat it is now so today it is considered a satanic holiday so we should considere it that i believe.

At 1/9/05 09:15 PM, Tal-con wrote:

At 1/7/05 11:23 PM, CapnJack wrote:

Well ya know, the reason we have church on Sunday and not Saturday (The Jewish Sabbath) is because of Pagan influences as well. This is true, and i can prove it. Long ago the Catholic churches wanted to apeal to Pagans, so they moved their day to the same day the Pagans worshipped their sun Gods. (Sun GODS, Sun DAY, hinthint,winkwink,nodnod).

Since the "primitive church" it has been on Sundays. Because it was the day after Sabath that our Lord resurrected.

Has anyone heard of the problems with the North American Episcopalian Church?

At 1/10/05 09:41 PM, -DivineCrusader- wrote: Has anyone heard of the problems with the North American Episcopalian Church?

that sounds very familier but i dont know.im sure it'll come to me

At 1/10/05 09:45 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: that sounds very familier but i dont know.im sure it'll come to me

I'm an Episcopalian an this is really causeing me to lose sleep. The North American Episcopalian Church (I'll call it the NAEC) is, for lack of a better term, becomming more politicaly correct. With the church comes three lines of importance in interpreting God

1. Scripture
2. Church Tridations
3. Reason

The NAEC is getting rid of Scripture and Church Triditions. They are saying that you can get to Heaven (and therefore God) through Christanity or Buddism, or Hindewism, etc. In New York at St. Johns the preacher did a sermon that included Raa in his sermon.

That a person is only limited to their own personal reason to get in Heaven. Sounds nice, except what they are doing is founding a Church on peoples opinions.

The Worldwide Anglican Church has totally said NO to what the NAEC is doing. The Arch Bishop of Cantaberry has told them to repent. But they havent changed so far.

So it looks like my Church is going to withdraw form the NAEC, bubt still remain part of the Worldwide Anglican Church.

*sigh*
Tough times

well i dont really beleive in hindewism,im not sure if this is hindew or moslum but on dec 22 there afraid the sun wont come back.but when the christian religon beleives God created the universe so i disagree with moslum or hindewism

but as long as its a christian religon does it realy matter?

At 1/10/05 10:22 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: but as long as its a christian religon does it realy matter?

It does, the NAEC is saying that Reason before Scripture is how you should interprite God. They are also acknowlaging other gods as ways to get to Heaven.

At 1/10/05 10:27 PM, -DivineCrusader- wrote:

:They are also acknowlaging other gods as ways to get to Heaven.

so your upset that your church has always followed scripture,church tradition,and reason for so long but now there acknowloging other gods as paths to heavon correct?

At 1/10/05 10:37 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: so your upset that your church has always followed scripture,church tradition,and reason for so long but now there acknowloging other gods as paths to heavon correct?

Your half right. They are throwing out the importance of Scripture and Triditions and putting personal reason as the way to best interprite God.

And yes, I am also upset about them saying that other Gods can get you to Heaven

well i dont like how there are many different Christian religons in the world but they all teach us the same thing just in differrent ways.

but when i heard that Caltholic preists were molesting boys i was shocked,but things are back in order now,i guess what im trying to say is not to worry to much.You shouldn't ridacule people for there beleifs but you shouldn't say its allright to change from Christian to Hindew and you'll be fine

you said yourself that the Anglican church has told them to repent,so in the end hopfully things will be fine

At 1/10/05 10:59 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: well i dont like how there are many different Christian religons in the world but they all teach us the same thing just in differrent ways.

But not when they say to disregard the Scripture

You shouldn't ridacule people for there beleifs but you shouldn't say its allright to change from Christian to Hindew and you'll be fine

I dont care if they become a Hindew, but I dont like them saying that by worshipping the Hindew religion that they can bypass Gods word.

you said yourself that the Anglican church has told them to repent,so in the end hopfully things will be fine

Hopefully

At 1/10/05 11:09 PM, -DivineCrusader- wrote: I dont care if they become a Hindew, but I dont like them saying that by worshipping the Hindew religion that they can bypass Gods word.

thats what i ment

At 1/10/05 05:23 PM, ScaryDeadGirl wrote: http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/halloween/holiday_origins1.html

Thanks, I didn't know that :-)

At 1/10/05 08:43 PM, corupthamster1 wrote: i have heard the same thing but i dont think its true and it really dosent matter the orgin but wat it is now so today it is considered a satanic holiday so we should considere it that i believe.

I wouldn't call Halloween satanic, it's the day before two much more important days that we often overlook. We should all be prepared to celebrate All Saints Day and All Souls Day this year

At 1/10/05 08:54 PM, inevitability wrote: Since the "primitive church" it has been on Sundays. Because it was the day after Sabath that our Lord resurrected.

Really? I never knew that and I heard something different. How do you know that?

At 1/10/05 09:48 PM, Tal-con wrote: Then what, may i be so bold to ask, were you refering to?

You may be so bold, but I can't guarantee you an appropraite answer. *Searches Internet* I'm not sure if this is the exact site, but any Seventh-Day Adventist site should do :)

If you go my interpretation, then yes, i am. And from my limited experiences with you on this forum i would have to say you are too.

I'll take your word for it.

At 1/10/05 10:22 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: well i dont really beleive in hindewism,im not sure if this is hindew or moslum but on dec 22 there afraid the sun wont come back.but when the christian religon beleives God created the universe so i disagree with moslum or hindewism

I don't know what you're talking about, but Hindus and Muslims both belive the same thing. Hindus, however, believe in a "world soul"... or the spiritual force behind our universe (which I think is similar to the Holy Spirit) and I think this is what they believe created the world. Muslims have the same God, but different prophets and completely different beliefs.

but as long as its a christian religon does it realy matter?

No, I don't believe that all Christian denominations or sects are following the path to God. Some have completely lost site of what the Bible says to be right and true.

At 1/10/05 10:59 PM, Steve_the_Scorpion wrote: well i dont like how there are many different Christian religons in the world but they all teach us the same thing just in differrent ways.

The reason they have split up is because they have different ideas on the same subjects. For example, Catholics generally put a much greater emphasis on Mother Mary than Orthodox people do. That's not the same teaching.

but when i heard that Caltholic preists were molesting boys i was shocked,but things are back in order now,i guess what im trying to say is not to worry to much.

Since the physical church is a human institution, and it is composed of people, there will inevitably be false priests and religious figures. We can only pray that God helps us to follow the Truth and guide the ones who love Him.

At 1/10/05 09:41 PM, -DivineCrusader- wrote: Has anyone heard of the problems with the North American Episcopalian Church?

All your following posts related to the problem concerning the NAEP are very important, but this is not a problem with only your religion. Many Christian religions are beginning to be blinded by their own human reasoning and completely forget the Word of God. This arrogance and ignorance is disgusting. Many Christians, and even Christian organizations are beginning to believe that all people are right, therefore they think that everyone is right. That's illogical and unholy.

Take this warning seriously.

Do not be deceived. There is ONE true GOD. According to everything we know and believe, there is ONE way. You are not a Christian if you believe anything else, for GOD said "You shall worship no other gods before me". You cannot accept idols, false prophets, avatars, or anything else against the LORD.

Be for God or flee from Him

At 1/10/05 09:59 PM, -DivineCrusader- wrote: So it looks like my Church is going to withdraw form the NAEC, bubt still remain part of the Worldwide Anglican Church.

Maybe it will make you feel better if I remind you that these are just human institutions, and the church has nothing to do with the NAEC, but it is the embodiment of faith of all the Christians in the world. Even if every religious organization fell into this line of thinking, if we only follow the Christ, He will lead us. That's what I believe anyway.

*sigh*
Tough times

I know, and apparently this is just the beginning...

It does, the NAEC is saying that Reason before Scripture is how you should interprite God. They are also acknowlaging other gods as ways to get to Heaven.

It's hilarious if you think about it, considering every religion believes something different and this universal religion theory is completely unfounded.

Hindus believe in reincarnation, and the only way to come out of this cycle is through meditation, religous sacrifice to idols or other ways which will make you one with the "world soul" that I mentioned earlier. I think Muslims believe that martyrs will get virgins in heaven (which is completely absurd to Christianity, because this would make their heaven a human one and allow them to lust and sin in death), I'm not sure about Judaism but Jesus revoked most of their beliefs. My only point is, how can all of these things coincide with each other, not to mention Christianity?

Bump

Great post capn jack!

At 1/11/05 01:28 PM, Xcyper33 wrote: Bump

Dont post "bump" posts, the mods consider those spam and get real pissed about them.

well capt.jack when you replide to some things of what i said it didn't make sence,but whatever the religon i was talking about was not muslum or hindew

Hi,

What does the Protestants think about the Stigmata¿?
They see it as possesion or what¿?
What's the Protestants point of view on the matter¿?

Protestants: Christian "Churches" different to the the Catholic "Church".

Yeah. This questions were inspired by DC's new name. But I was curious about it. I know within the Catholics is something that isn't very common. Only 20+/- cases were reported on the last century.

Has anyone from the Protestant church ever have one¿? There is a "protestant" point of view on the matter¿?

-Blessings

At 1/11/05 04:32 AM, CapnJack wrote:

At 1/10/05 05:23 PM, ScaryDeadGirl wrote:
At 1/10/05 08:54 PM, inevitability wrote: Since the "primitive church" it has been on Sundays. Because it was the day after Sabath that our Lord resurrected.

Really? I never knew that and I heard something different. How do you know that?

I read it somewhere around the web...

Nah just kidding. In the scriptures: Acts 20:7

-Blessings

At 1/11/05 10:08 PM, inevitability wrote: What does the Protestants think about the Stigmata¿?

I personally believe in it

They see it as possesion or what¿?

I see it as hly wounds that deeply religious people suffer

Has anyone from the Protestant church ever have one¿? There is a "protestant" point of view on the matter¿?

I dont know if a Protestant has ever had one, but I do believe in them. I pretty much believe in all of the things that Catholic's believe with the exception that teh Church is the only route to God. I dont think that their needs to be an instution between me and Jesus. Its nice and helpful, but not necessary.

At 1/11/05 10:13 PM, inevitability wrote: Nah just kidding. In the scriptures: Acts 20:7

Haha, Spanish people are funny :-P. A Spanish woman did that to my mom yesterday (they weren't talking about Bible quotes though lol). Anyway, I read that just now and I didn't see what I was looking for, but I'm tired anyway... I'll try again later.

-Blessings

To you too :-)

At 1/11/05 10:18 PM, -Stigmata- wrote: I pretty much believe in all of the things that Catholic's believe with the exception that teh Church is the only route to God. I dont think that their needs to be an instution between me and Jesus. Its nice and helpful, but not necessary.

I'm Catholic too and I didn't even know they believe that. I agree with you though, the church is helpful but not essential... the physical church anyway.