At 12/15/16 12:10 AM, EDM364 wrote:
Basically the same thing as having an outdated player, constantly asking you permission. Firefox does the same thing to me. Our newer submissions I think here will be in HTML5 or MP4 though
Anyone who is smart is already doing this. At the very least they're taking it into consideration. HTML5/JavaScript/CSS (and optionally WebGL) for games, MP4 for videos.
Additionally you don't have to code in straight HTML5/JavaScript/CSS/WebGL if you don't want to. Many people are using Haxe, Unity, and other development environments and programming languages which can export to HTML5/JavaScript/CSS/WebGL. And I should say for anyone who is using Unity, *definitely* export to HTML5 and don't require the user to have the Unity browser plugin.
At 12/15/16 10:28 AM, adultvideos wrote:
If you're triggered because of the historical content of Newgrounds being inaccessible anymore in the future, well, that's another topic all together.
Not gonna be an issue because the Flash plugin isn't going away. It's simply going to be disabled by default, requiring manual enabling it. It requires one extra step from the end user, but all you might have to do as a content creator is put a little note saying you'll need to manually enable Flash to view the content. Done.
At 12/15/16 12:11 PM, sjwgenocide wrote:
the idea of developing tools to turn old flash games into playable things in another form is interesting but i'm not sure how the logistics of it would work. maybe someone could write an swf emulator or something
That would be the only way to do that, and it would be nightmarish. Emulation is never perfect after all, and it's hard enough to get "good enough" emulation of even systems which are extremely old. And even then you'll find software which won't work correctly under it but which did work correctly on the real deal.
At 12/15/16 12:42 PM, adultvideos wrote:
There are already some open-source Flash Player projects available (Lightspark and GNU Gnash for example). Though it might require you to fiddle around more in some circumstances and I don't know about the performance.
Yeah but they're not that good. I doubt you could get half of the games on Newgrounds running correctly under them. It's the same problem with Moonlight (the open-source Silverlight plugin alternative). Simply-put nothing you'd actually want to use on it even works on it, or very little, at best.
You'd almost be better off making an emulation of NPAPI which itself runs on top of Pepper API or whatever, and then run the old official plugins through that plugin emulation layer.
But I wouldn't worry about it though. Flash isn't going anywhere as long as those plugins still work, even if you have to do the simple task of right-click allow.
