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Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 02:49 PM Reply

It seems cheaper than every other route to a higher quality music listening experience. $10 per record sounds good and every rotting corpse it pretty much giving up their vinyl player. Apparently my Granddad had a nice one too but it got taken for some reason. It also seems easy to set up and I like the idea of having a vinyl collection. I'd still like to upgrade my PC audio equipment because free music but I'm not too fussed at this point seeing as I have some halfway decent headphones.

Thoughts? Help maybe?


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 02:52 PM Reply

One thing you hipsters have forgotten is that records get scratched up and dusty with frequent use.

Therefore the sound quality degrades with heavy use.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 02:53 PM Reply

i get all my music directly from the label they're released under to save money. there's a label based in sweden under the moniker "the pirate bay" which let's you get tons of high quality lossless audio for a bi-annual payment of 120$... i know it sounds like a scam, but it's for real

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 02:54 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 02:52 PM, Painbringer wrote: One thing you hipsters have forgotten is that records get scratched up and dusty with frequent use.

Therefore the sound quality degrades with heavy use.

Not with careful use. Why am I a hipster, Sir?


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 02:59 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 02:57 PM, Scary wrote: you're not, hes dumb

I guess I'm not that good with all the latest buzzwords.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 03:00 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 02:59 PM, Painbringer wrote:
At 12/25/12 02:57 PM, Scary wrote: you're not, hes dumb
I guess I'm not that good with all the latest buzzwords.

pleb


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 03:03 PM Reply

plebeians haven't been around for a while... sorry

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 03:08 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 03:00 PM, TheColourAwsome wrote: pleb

So now I'm a welfarino from ancient Roman times?

I learned that from the game Caesar 2.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 03:10 PM Reply

bah I just download my music for free because I don't care as long as I have something to listen to.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 03:30 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 02:52 PM, Painbringer wrote: One thing you hipsters have forgotten is that records get scratched up and dusty with frequent use.

Therefore the sound quality degrades with heavy use.

Only if youre too stupid to use/store it properly

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 03:36 PM Reply

Cheaper? Hmm, not if you count buying all the components for a decent vinyl sound system. And they degrade simply by replaying the vinyl over time. The grooves also easily attract dust, which can cause interference. Being cautious with them just prevents them from deteriorating before your eyes, and there are so many pre-cautions you have to take with them to maximize the lifespan of your vinyls. In the end, considering the availability of computers and the more obscure nature of vinyl sound systems, digital just seems like the more ideal option, considering how easy it has become to acquire music for free, despite how dodgy the copies may be.

And I will admit, having a physical copy of something opposed to having said copy within the confines of a hard drive is certainly more rewarding in the longrun.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 03:41 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 03:36 PM, Urban-Champion wrote: Cheaper? Hmm, not if you count buying all the components for a decent vinyl sound system. And they degrade simply by replaying the vinyl over time. The grooves also easily attract dust, which can cause interference. Being cautious with them just prevents them from deteriorating before your eyes, and there are so many pre-cautions you have to take with them to maximize the lifespan of your vinyls. In the end, considering the availability of computers and the more obscure nature of vinyl sound systems, digital just seems like the more ideal option, considering how easy it has become to acquire music for free, despite how dodgy the copies may be.

And I will admit, having a physical copy of something opposed to having said copy within the confines of a hard drive is certainly more rewarding in the longrun.

With care how long do you think a regularly played record could last? I also don't plan on never listening to downloaded music again. If I find I listen to something quite often(Youtube) and can't find a copy online I'll buy it on CD. Wouldn't it be the same case for vinyl? There's a lot for songs I want to hear in more depth and higher quality. Tah fo yo help


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 04:01 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 03:41 PM, TheColourAwsome wrote:
With care how long do you think a regularly played record could last? I also don't plan on never listening to downloaded music again. If I find I listen to something quite often(Youtube) and can't find a copy online I'll buy it on CD. Wouldn't it be the same case for vinyl? There's a lot for songs I want to hear in more depth and higher quality. Tah fo yo help

I'm no vinyl expert so my guess isn't much better than yours. Google might harbor better results than i could ever guess. It all depends on the quality of your sound system in the long run and there are a lot of components that need to be taken into consideration such as the quality/calibration of the stylus, that will affect the fidelity and lifespan of your vinyl. Other factors like storage, handling, and the physical quality of the vinyl all determine the lifespan of the copy. Wikipedia practically breaks down in depth vinyl deterioration prevention better than I ever could.

Consider investing in high-grade components for your vinyl sound system if you want to maximize the potential clarity and prevent the degeneration of analogue sound.

And yeah, most new-production vinyls have alternate CD-copies available, occasionally sold as a pack in bonus with the vinyl copy as well.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 04:08 PM Reply

Consider investing in high-grade components for your vinyl sound system if you want to maximize the potential clarity and prevent the degeneration of analogue sound.

And yeah, most new-production vinyls have alternate CD-copies available, occasionally sold as a pack in bonus with the vinyl copy as well.

I have done a bit of research.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/comments/fiedy/my_attempt_at_c reating_a_guide_to_vinyl_to_answer/
http://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/comments/xs9yh/baller_on_a_bud get_the_cheap_setup_thread/
and a few other articles hence what I meant about getting somewhat serious about vinyl. I know not to go after crap with vintage looks and such. I've read about the components what to go for. I've asked around for turntables and want to go have a look at some thrift stores and things. This turntable looks pretty good too much it's not in full production yet.


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 08:31 PM Reply

Don't they have machines that convert music from a record into an mp3? Idk if the sound is inferior to the original though.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 08:42 PM Reply

How about download it for free or yt convert it.


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 08:43 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 08:42 PM, tsukikomi wrote: yt convert it

do people really do this

i really hope not


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 08:44 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 08:31 PM, DELUCA2400 wrote: Don't they have machines that convert music from a record into an mp3? Idk if the sound is inferior to the original though.

They do and the turntables are apparently shit. There's no reason to convert a record to digital when the sound will be degraded anyway. You'd get better quality with a FLAC file.


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 08:46 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 08:43 PM, Sekhem wrote:
At 12/25/12 08:42 PM, tsukikomi wrote: yt convert it
do people really do this

i really hope not

If they can't find proper free mp3's.


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 09:07 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 08:42 PM, tsukikomi wrote: How about download it for free or yt convert it.

Because converting it compresses the audio quality and it sounds like shit.

At 12/25/12 08:45 PM, Travis wrote: Correct term for someone who likes vinyl (because they aren't fucking hipsters) is "audiophile."

Just saying.

Audiophile means obsessed with audio quality. Liking vinyl doesn't have a term. You don't have to call someone a name because they something.


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 25th, 2012 @ 09:09 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 08:42 PM, tsukikomi wrote: How about download it for free or yt convert it.

240p = 60kbps
320p/480p = 128kbps
720p+ = 152kbps

If you're that desperate at least make sure you find a high quality video to rip. Usually if I can't find a file of something I'll just buy it.


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 26th, 2012 @ 05:15 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 08:45 PM, Travis wrote: Correct term for someone who likes vinyl (because they aren't fucking hipsters) is "audiophile."

Really travis.

I mean, really.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 26th, 2012 @ 05:37 PM Reply

I love records, the sound of vinyl crackling really calms me down. Anyone else feel this wau?


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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 26th, 2012 @ 05:44 PM Reply

At 12/25/12 08:31 PM, DELUCA2400 wrote: Don't they have machines that convert music from a record into an mp3? Idk if the sound is inferior to the original though.

These do exist, but that practically diminishes the purpose of owning a vinyl as you're converting the analogue format to a digital format. The whole point of arguing vinyl(/analogue) is better than digital is the indefinite spectrum of analogue sound frequencies that are diminished by having definite frequencies when said sound is converted to a digital format... Uhh, i can only hope you catch my drift :/

And you also get a healthy dosage of background interference through this conversion, though the amount of background distortion depends on a lot of factors.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 26th, 2012 @ 06:16 PM Reply

Vinyl is always better than cd's, cd's contain fake digitalized music which all sounds bad, the only exception is Pink Floyd.

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Response to Getting more serious about Vinyl Dec. 26th, 2012 @ 06:21 PM Reply

ok, yah i'm getting bored of this now


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