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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-11 08:09:55 Reply

Yeah im swinging liberal as well, but only a bit.

If I was actually going to do politics and investigate more shit and look into more information about everything then perhaps I would be something else but thats what I am for the moment.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-12 09:01:09 Reply

liberal

but i hate liberals

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-12 11:58:31 Reply

At 7/12/12 09:01 AM, science-is-fun wrote: liberal

but i hate liberals

I think you better qualify as a "self-hating liberal".

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-12 20:20:50 Reply

how things have changed so much since the days of high school idealism.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-13 15:57:34 Reply

This is how I placed on the Political Compass:

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72

I obviously have a lot of distrust for the government, but I also have trust in its civilians to be distrustful as well. To me, the real enemies are the people that operate behind the scenes; if you look at the top 20 wealthiest people in the country, most people won't even know who they are.

Even churches, which I adamantly detest, have many people involved that are genuinely trying to do the right thing, but when someone gets involved in business, they're trying to make money. Nobody goes into business to make the world a better place, and that's why corporations require such heavy regulations.

What really bothers me is someone who refuses to recall a product because it's cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to issue a recall, or anybody who makes similar decisions based off of money. When a CEO will allow thousands or even millions of people to die just to increase profits, I find that worse than genocide; when you actively pit an army against a specific culture or population, you are acknowledging human life, even if you disregard it. When you make a business decision without even taking into account the number of people dying, you aren't showing any recognition for human life in the first place.

Furthermore, there are, statistically, more than enough sociopaths to populate a conspiracy or leadership positions, and keep in mind that a sociopath is actively seeking out these kinds of roles. For the most part, I don't believe in a whole lot of conspiracies, but I rarely rule out the possibility of one.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-14 15:33:11 Reply

At 7/12/12 11:58 AM, Camarohusky wrote: I think you better qualify as a "self-hating liberal"

They hate labels like "white" and "capitalist", not themselves, they are actually quite narcissistic, they view themselves as edgy rebels whose job it is to shock conformist corporate drones out of their shells.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-15 14:12:09 Reply

At 7/6/12 06:43 PM, Dawnslayer wrote:
At 7/6/12 05:01 PM, Psychojoseph wrote: 4:Repeal the 2nd Amendment(which allows us to keep and bear arms)
Wrong. Your definition has failed.

it still does not change that the earliest definition of liberal (which I know of) is that they desire extreme change.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-16 12:15:18 Reply

At 7/15/12 02:12 PM, lilfozzy wrote: it still does not change that the earliest definition of liberal (which I know of) is that they desire extreme change.

So? When people say liberal they generally mean modern american liberal. No point splitting hairs. The US has 2 major political institutions divided between the democrats who are liberal and republicans who are conservative, it's pretty obvious.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-16 14:20:21 Reply

Last year we had to take a test for my government class, and I was the most liberal in the class by far.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-16 20:36:17 Reply

At 7/12/12 08:20 PM, Iron-Hampster wrote: how things have changed so much since the days of high school idealism.

well that looks pretty idealistic to me

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-17 04:16:26 Reply

left/right is too limiting.

Anyone who identifies themselves with a party is limiting their opinions.

Look at it this way. If there are 20 options, there is a 1 in a million chance that two parties disagree on every single issue. Yet the country is mostly republicans and democrats? sounds like a contrived system to me.

like more intelligent people, i'm closer to libertarian than anything else. but i wouldn't just say "i'm a libertarian" because i don't vote down party lines. i don't vote at all.

because voting is pointless.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-25 21:38:58 Reply

Well, I live in the part of the world where I'm not stuck with 2 political choices(being liberal and conservative)

I'm actually a center-left to left wing socialist libertarian, here's some of my believes:

Increase funding to our NHS
Increase minimum wage
Pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan
Nationalize railways
Keep the Royal Mail Nationalized
Legalize Cannabis, but regulate it the same as alcohol, so, 18 to buy it, can't smoke it while driving etc.
Allow the right to carry a pistol around for self defense, but subject to strict physical, mental and background checks to make sure firearms are not being given to the wrong people and only pistols, no one needs an assault rifle or a shotgun for self denfese
Increase maximum income tax rate to 65% deal with it rich snobs.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-30 17:20:09 Reply

I would consider myself my conservative than liberal.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-30 17:41:46 Reply

Like the typical person living in Canada, I'm conservative.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-30 20:10:34 Reply

At 7/30/12 05:41 PM, tyler2513 wrote: Like the typical person living in Canada, I'm conservative.

good one.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-30 22:13:08 Reply

I'm am a liberal more specifically a social justice crusader but agree with the free market idea of the conservatives.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-07-31 08:32:39 Reply

Economic Left/Right: 9.25

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-16 22:11:04 Reply

I have considered myself as a Republican Liberal. However I decided to take this test and see what's what.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-18 18:03:49 Reply

I like how you assume those are the only two political views possible.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-19 08:30:43 Reply

I hate all sides but I don't think I have much choice to be anything but "liberal" considering my beliefs and what I am.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-19 13:27:45 Reply

At 7/6/12 05:01 PM, Psychojoseph wrote:
At 7/6/12 09:26 AM, animehater wrote: Please define.
Liberal means you want to change everything,A liberal would want the following things done.
1:Legalize gay marraige
2:Keep abortion legal
3:Keep religion(particulary Christianity) and politics from mixing
4:Repeal the 2nd Amendment(which allows us to keep and bear arms)
5:Open up our borders
A conservative would want the opposite of everything I just described.

Are you in 8th grade? You know that liberalism and conservatism are so much more broad than american pop politics. The political spectrum isn't black and white. Most of the things you listed were either libertarian or authoritarian. You're just speaking to neoliberals and neoconservatives.

Also, repealing the second amendment is just plain stupid. You neolibs got the drug problem right, but when it comes to guns, you guys get all emotional and stupid "O GUNZ KILL PPL".

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-19 13:32:50 Reply

Classical liberal here. For those of you that do not know about Classical Liberalism, it is not really Liberalism. It is Libertarian Conservatism. I believe that government should be limited to a judicial system and military/police force. Any man or business should be able to do what he wants as long as it does not violate another's property or life.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-19 15:22:59 Reply

Reactionary.

By the way, you're all progressives.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-20 06:55:29 Reply

At 7/12/12 09:01 AM, science-is-fun wrote: liberal

but i hate liberals

I'm liberal except where it affects my wallet. Staunchly conservative when it comes to my finances; stay out of my pocket. I always vote my personal economic interests, which are sometimes liberal, sometimes conservative. I find this the only satisfying way to vote because the parties representing both sides are both vassals to the same lord (the financial elite). The best any US citizen can do is protect himself and his family, and have enough money to lend out money at loan shark rates to his friends.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-21 14:51:50 Reply

At 8/19/12 03:22 PM, LordZeebmork wrote: Reactionary.

By the way, you're all progressives.

This.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-21 19:58:41 Reply

I'm an Absolute Monarchist. The Queen likes a Constitutional Monarchy. So I adhere to Fascism within that framework. There is, I suppose, a Fascist party in the Integralist Party, but I have disagreements with them. To me the most important thing is regaining the sovreignity and identity of my country. This onvolves leaving the EU, so I vote for UKIP and joined them too.

They are usually defined as Conservative and Populist. Meeting some members, they seem fairly Liberal.


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-21 20:17:48 Reply

Liberal on most social issues (Abortion and gun control can go suck it) while conservative on the economic side (Leave your feelings at home, we need sustainability).


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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-21 20:33:31 Reply

At 8/21/12 07:58 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: This onvolves leaving the EU, so I vote for UKIP and joined them too.

lol, UKIP

Have fun with your aspergers party.

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Response to Are you conservative or liberal 2012-08-21 20:59:50 Reply

At 8/21/12 08:33 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 8/21/12 07:58 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: This onvolves leaving the EU, so I vote for UKIP and joined them too.
lol, UKIP

Have fun with your aspergers party.

AFAIK, I am the only person in Glasgow branch to suffer from a mental illness. I could be mistaken, but I feel it rude to ask. And I AM having fun. :P


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