*Slaps hands together and rubs them* Time to get to work >:3.
Firstly, two things:
1.) You're very right, mr-jazzman. It was me who was careless enough to fail at maths, completely my fault. It was pretty late at night in my country, I still had to pack my bag with the right books and I had school tomorrow (have to wake up at 5:30) so I was very reluctant to get the results thread ready
ASAP, not only because I'd be tired as hell when I wake up today, but because you all have been waiting for a month, patiently and without any flaming, hatemail or insults directed to me or any judge, so I was really anxious to just get it over with so you can finally see the results. In the case of ties, I think us judges should discuss which person should make it through and indicate which one makes it. So, when SBB signs in, we'll get his vote of who should make it, I'll ask Darklight and I'll place my vote, and the song with the majority of votes passes. So, if it's OK with Bosa and mr-jazzman, can you wait a little for your results while everyone else continues? Your deadline will be elongated accordingly :).
2.) Remember, if there are any suggestions, please post them in this thread.
Now, to start answering...
To begin with, thanks Bosa and Gravey for standing up for me and thanking me and to mr-jazzman for coming up with so many suggestions and thanking me too ^^. Always nice to have such awesome contestants.
Now, to answer to mr-jazzman.
1.) About the judge-interview process, I'm pretty sure we have some great judges. Kaizerwolf's reviews are nitpicky and he has good knowledge in producing, LogicalDefiance said himself that he thinks he'll make a good judge: "My specialties in criticism are with mixing/mastering and with electronic composition. I have judged various competitions already like the 24 hour contest thecoreman just had, and the Haiti Relief Album. My background in music production trails back about 4 years, but each year has been exponentially more improvement and at this point I own my own audio company and am teaching production in FL Studio through a trial program this summer with a teacher friend of mine.", SBB has already proven his excellent judging, and heck, Pure-Metal-UTA plays more instruments than any other person I've known :P, and the reviews that he works hard on are superb (such as this one), so I can assure you that the judges we have are great :).
2.) I suppose the judges we chose have a variety of different backgrounds and ages. But yes, sorry for the fact that 2 14-year olds are organising one of the largest competitions on NG :P. Hey, if you think my reviews need work or are just horrible, don't hesitate to point out, though. There's always room for improvement, and I don't want people to dislike any of my reviews because they may be obvious that they're made by a 14-year old or are just plain crap :).
3.) I'll have to disagree with the fact that you think too many cooks spoil the broth. As Gravey said, more judges means less ties, and although there is that factor of dependability, I think the more the merrier. Besides, it's not the end of the world if one judge doesn't do any reviews. It's actually better to have more judges, because if for example a judge fails to do any reviews and we only have 3 judges, you'll only have 2 reviews for your song, whereas with more judges, if one fails to review, the problem isn't such a big deal. There won't be any disagreement either, since every judge has his own opinion and score for a song (no judge needs to disagree with his opinion, IMO), which is why more judges balance out the scores more and reduce any biased scores.
4.) You're right that it may be unfair, but if you wanted to point out that you feel the need to post another song since your opponent is doing so, you could've just pointed that out and we'd be glad to give you another chance :). Also, we would've stuck to the deadlines, but because of some difficulties, we had no choice other than changing the deadlines a little. Maybe we weren't clear enough with the new deadlines?
5.) Don't change how the freaking competition operates in the middle of the competition!
Sorry :(.
That really really got on my nerves. Y'all should have said "okay, 32 will submit, and if you don't, tough." That way, confusion would have been avoided. What you guys did in Round 1 was, in my opinion, unacceptable; if 14 people submitted (which, like I already stated, I'm pretty sure more did than 14), then 14 people should have been judged how you guys outlined it.
But that would ruin the competition. Round 2 should have 16 contestants left, so if we judged the 14 and chose 7, then that's less than half that's needed for Round 2 :S. I think the only thing we COULD'VE done was let 16 people go through automatically, since they submitted a song. I admit it was a complete mess, and we made mistakes, but because of those mistakes we had no other choice.
And you guys said, after Round 1 was full, that people who had been signed up in the competition for a month had to REsubmit? How would they remember?
We sent PM's :S.
And then, for Round 2, we should not have been allowed to submit our old song again! That defeated the purpose of NGADM!What if someone submitted their old song, saw that their competition submitted a new song, and then wanted to submit a new song in rebuttal? This defeats the fair playing table.
Well, that's a bit what you did. You first resubmitted 'Image >Unmastered<, but then, after that, you submitted your mastered version. According to the rules, we should have simply judged the unmastered version because you uploaded your new mastered edition from the beginning, instead of using http://www.newgrounds.com/account/audio/
edit and editing it, but we decided to be lenient because of the fact that there was so much confusion. Sorry if we did anything wrong though, you're right about many things and we're hoping to learn from our mistakes next time round.
6.) Hmm... to fix this, we might have to PM every contestant the link to the results thread when a round is finished. It's quite a bit of hassle, but as you said, it could be unfair for the people who don't visit the forums often. But still, having one thread is a bit too much, so it's better to split it into different threads IMO.
7.) In the original thread, I posted that every deadline will have a specific time of 1:00 PM EST, 6:00 PM GMT, although I didn't indicate this in the original post, but later in the thread, so I won't blame you for thinking that. Still, if you noticed, every time I say that a round ended, I always say so at 1:00 EST.
8.) Wish I had the money :(.
9.) As I said above, we're planning on doing that.
10.) My fault. As I said above, I didn't recheck because it was late at night. But thankfully, you guys pointed that out, so now we can try and break the tie. But sorry for being such an idiot :(.
By the way, sorry for not sending PM's out to everyone. I was tired and wasn't thinking straight, and only sent PM's out to the winners :(. Again, I'm very sorry :'(.
Also, to answer to you again:
"Not that the average makes a difference"
Sure it doesn't, but I think it's a little helpful to point that out. Having a score out of 30 is cool, but not when everyone's used to the usual NG /10 score, so I think the average helps a little, considering everyone gets reviews from people on NG which are out of 10. Sure you guys can work the average out for yourself, but it helps to be convenient ;).
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, for the support, and sorry for being such a bad host :(. Anyway, I've sent a PM to SBB, asking him for his vote on who should win from mr-jazzman and Bosa, I'll ask Darklight on MSN and I already know who I voted for. I'll get the results as soon as every judge tells me who he votes for, and I'll send PM's :P. To the rest, keep up your good work, and good luck!
