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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-23 06:50:12 Reply

At 12/22/14 06:43 PM, Korriken wrote: This is probably the wrong place for this, but I can't figure out a better place to ask.

I've been studying music theory off and on for a while (usually give it a shot, get frustrated, take a break, come back, repeat.) One thing I've never been able to wrap my thick skull around is chord progression. I understand some of it, like how to go from one chord to another (sort of), but the thing that boggles my mind is how often do chords change? Does it even matter when? I know I'm over thinking it, but without an answer, it'll continue to drive me nuts until I know for sure.

Depends on the genre you're into and the mood of your song I guess. EDM and pop songs usually have 4 chords that change every 4 beats but this can vary a lot. But you shouldn't limit yourself to these unwritten rules. Artistic freedom, man, just go crazy with your song and do what you think sounds good.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-23 07:30:16 Reply

At 12/22/14 06:43 PM, Korriken wrote: This is probably the wrong place for this, but I can't figure out a better place to ask.

I've been studying music theory off and on for a while (usually give it a shot, get frustrated, take a break, come back, repeat.) One thing I've never been able to wrap my thick skull around is chord progression. I understand some of it, like how to go from one chord to another (sort of), but the thing that boggles my mind is how often do chords change? Does it even matter when? I know I'm over thinking it, but without an answer, it'll continue to drive me nuts until I know for sure.

Nobody would object to you making a new thread about this. It's what the Audio Forum is for!

Anyway, I haven't learnt chord progressions formally myself. What I'm saying is purely based on experience. A chord progression simply describes how the chords change in a piece. Sometimes, you'll have a set chord progression which you use often, and perhaps add in some chord deviations here and there. Other times, you might have no pattern at all in your chords, and just play whatever chord you think fits in a certain section. Hell, occasionally your chord progression can simply be the same four chords repeated over and over again.

How do you know when to change chords? Well, similar questions would be: How do you know when your melody should go up in pitch or down in pitch? How do you know when to change the mood of your track? You just go with whatever you want! After all, you're the composer, right? If I had to give a typical scenario, chords are most often changed once every bar of melody, but there aren't really any golden rules. They sometimes change even more often in classical/jazz, and sometimes change even less often in EDM/pop. Sometimes, changing chords on every note or couple of notes might sound stagnant after a while. Sometimes, changing chords every 2 or 4 bars might get dull and limiting. You never know till you try it.

If I had to give an example in one of my own tracks (I promise this isn't self-advertising!), this track has no chord progression for the first bit, chords changing once every two bars during 0:21 - 0:42, and then chords changing twice in almost every bar in sections like 0:42 - 1:04 (and considering the BPM is 182 that's a lot of chord changes). Then, for the whole section at 1:04 - 1:46, it keeps the same chord progression going for the improv. As you can see, there really are no set rules. So if I were you, I'd just follow the only golden rule that exists in music: "if it sounds good, go for it!"


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-23 11:14:01 (edited 2014-12-23 11:16:48) Reply

At 12/23/14 04:01 AM, Sequenced wrote:
didn't u have music uploaded on here?

Sort of. It was just me toying with some program on my 3ds running up and down the C scale. It was... bad.

At 12/23/14 07:30 AM, Step wrote:

So if I were you, I'd just follow the only golden rule that exists in music: "if it sounds good, go for it!"

Thanks. That helps more than you can imagine. So, in the end it doesn't really matter.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-23 12:49:58 Reply

yo you guys seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHfhorJnAEI

think its unbelievable imo

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-23 13:39:26 Reply

At 12/23/14 12:49 PM, AeroMusic wrote: yo you guys seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHfhorJnAEI

think its unbelievable imo

amazing and kind of scary how far we've come technologically. it's not unbelievable though, he explains really well how that stuff works imho. still really impressive! in 10 years you probably can do this with your phone xD


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-25 02:16:48 Reply

Hey guys, just popping in.

After months of scheming for world domination, I'm up for unleashing some new virtual instruments upon the world!

First off, here's a folk harp I made in conjunction with @etherealwinds. It really came out great and I'm psyched to be able to share it with everyone. Now you can have the one-and-only Etherealwinds play harp for you from the comfort of your desktop computer! *gasp*

We're also having a special- Hand Chimes are free for the next three days. They're a good instrument to have around that fill a specific niche nicely.

Anyone find any good deals or specials? Get (or give) any cool music-y gifts? Sacrifice any chickens to the music gods?


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-25 03:10:34 Reply

At 12/23/14 12:49 PM, AeroMusic wrote: yo you guys seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHfhorJnAEI

think its unbelievable imo

That was pretty interesting. I can see that technology being used by police forces or similar and being pretty useful.
I wonder what else's left to discover.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-25 13:24:45 Reply

Merry Christmas yuo guyzzz.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-25 20:32:29 Reply

Kinda late, but I've been working my ass off all day.

Merry Christmas fellow audio brethern!

...where is everybody?


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-26 16:14:27 (edited 2014-12-26 16:17:27) Reply

At 12/25/14 08:32 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: Kinda late, but I've been working my ass off all day.

Merry Christmas fellow audio brethern!

...where is everybody?

hopefully with friends and family :D merry christmas to you too by the way ;) what a year, got my first frontpage last year :'). have you had any milestones achieved?


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-26 16:27:33 Reply

wanna know what I hate?

stupid people


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-26 20:06:51 Reply

the end is nigh for theaudioguy's newgrounds days.
YOU'LL MISS ME!!!

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-27 01:05:15 Reply

At 12/26/14 08:06 PM, TheAudioGuy wrote: the end is nigh for theaudioguy's newgrounds days.
YOU'LL MISS ME!!!

you're right, the end is nigh.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-29 11:08:44 (edited 2014-12-29 11:09:11) Reply

Worked a total of 31 hours in the last 4 days, today I finally got to rest. My fucking legs...


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-29 11:54:21 Reply

At 12/29/14 11:08 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: Worked a total of 31 hours in the last 4 days, today I finally got to rest. My fucking legs...

Do you do squats for a living? That would be a pretty rewarding long term job.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-29 14:26:15 Reply

At 12/29/14 11:54 AM, FinaLee wrote:
At 12/29/14 11:08 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: Worked a total of 31 hours in the last 4 days, today I finally got to rest. My fucking legs...
Do you do squats for a living? That would be a pretty rewarding long term job.

Nope, dishboy at a restaurant and DJ at a bowling avenue (but I occasionally work as a waiter there too). Did a lot of walking the past few days :p


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-30 09:41:33 Reply

https://soundcloud.com/aleksander-vinter

so what do you think of this maniac calling himself savant producing tracks like a machine? I love this track called pixel bee...


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-30 09:57:37 Reply

At 12/30/14 09:41 AM, Voltus wrote: https://soundcloud.com/aleksander-vinter

so what do you think of this maniac calling himself savant producing tracks like a machine? I love this track called pixel bee...

i do the same yet no one cares ;-;


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-30 09:59:55 Reply

At 12/30/14 09:41 AM, Voltus wrote: https://soundcloud.com/aleksander-vinter

so what do you think of this maniac calling himself savant producing tracks like a machine? I love this track called pixel bee...

I'm not exactly following him but whenever I hear something new he put out I love it. I bought his album Overworld which I still frequently listen too.
Also, fun fact: the music in this Newgrounds movie was made by him. Can you believe it?


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-30 10:01:16 Reply

At 12/30/14 09:57 AM, Sequenced wrote:
i do the same yet no one cares ;-;

you released a whole commercial album in mid december and made a whole new 10 track ep before the end of the year?

this guy is truly quantity over quality but still i think the savant stuff is kind of awesome.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-30 10:03:57 Reply

At 12/30/14 09:59 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I'm not exactly following him but whenever I hear something new he put out I love it. I bought his album Overworld which I still frequently listen too.
Also, fun fact: the music in this Newgrounds movie was made by him. Can you believe it?

can believe cause the link is to the vinter in hollywood page :D it alsways nice to see artists i like to have some sort of connection to newgrounds. you should spend a while on his soundcloud and listen to his newer stuff quite unique but still bangers ^^


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2014-12-31 19:18:01 Reply

Happy New year fellow audiowhores! May this year be full of good tunes and bitches (and im drunk)


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2015-01-01 12:46:00 (edited 2015-01-01 12:46:40) Reply

At 12/25/14 02:16 AM, samulis wrote: Hey guys, just popping in.

After months of scheming for world domination, I'm up for unleashing some new virtual instruments upon the world!

First off, here's a folk harp I made in conjunction with @etherealwinds. It really came out great and I'm psyched to be able to share it with everyone. Now you can have the one-and-only Etherealwinds play harp for you from the comfort of your desktop computer! *gasp*

We're also having a special- Hand Chimes are free for the next three days. They're a good instrument to have around that fill a specific niche nicely.

Anyone find any good deals or specials? Get (or give) any cool music-y gifts? Sacrifice any chickens to the music gods?

Wanted to delurk to say thank you and @etherealwinds, the harp is beautiful. I used to play in middleschool back when there was such a thing as music programs. The only trouble I have with it is that I can't link its parameters to any automation/controllers in FL Studio, which would be nice for instance to be able to sort of palm-mute it by linking the decay to my pitch wheel. For custom VSTs I'm usually able to do this by using the 'last tweaked' parameters in the tools menu after wiggling something, but no dice here :( Don't know what it'd take to enable this on your end, or if it's something FL is glitching on.

Happy new years! Here's a complaint! xD


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2015-01-01 14:02:00 Reply

At 1/1/15 12:46 PM, Eagleon wrote: Wanted to delurk to say thank you and @etherealwinds, the harp is beautiful. I used to play in middleschool back when there was such a thing as music programs. The only trouble I have with it is that I can't link its parameters to any automation/controllers in FL Studio, which would be nice for instance to be able to sort of palm-mute it by linking the decay to my pitch wheel. For custom VSTs I'm usually able to do this by using the 'last tweaked' parameters in the tools menu after wiggling something, but no dice here :( Don't know what it'd take to enable this on your end, or if it's something FL is glitching on.

Happy new years! Here's a complaint! xD

Yeah, no... sorry. It's an issue with Maize, the thing we use to make our VSTi and Audio Units. It's rather under-developed about a lot of things and the developer of it never seems to want to add any new features, but it's an incredibly efficient and user-friendly tool, unlike 98% of other plugin making tools, which are designed for programmers, not musicians.

I suggest playing around with some of the MIDI CC's. I know volume and pan can be controlled in that way.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2015-01-01 18:17:51 Reply

Sup, newbie here, just popped in to say hello. Not sure if I'll become a regular here yet, but I do find myself dabbling in music production every now and then, and would like some constructive criticism, and it seems that sites like Deviantart don't accept audio uploads. Am I in the right place?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2015-01-01 18:34:30 (edited 2015-01-01 18:35:30) Reply

At 1/1/15 06:17 PM, superblokki wrote: Sup, newbie here, just popped in to say hello. Not sure if I'll become a regular here yet, but I do find myself dabbling in music production every now and then, and would like some constructive criticism, and it seems that sites like Deviantart don't accept audio uploads. Am I in the right place?

Yep. Right place, indeed.

The Audio Advertisement and Review For Review Threads are good starting points.

(3spooky5u is both groovy and melodically intricate. I dig!)

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At 1/1/15 06:34 PM, LunyAlex wrote: The Audio Advertisement and Review For Review Threads are good starting points.

(3spooky5u is both groovy and melodically intricate. I dig!)

Thank you for your input! I'll keep those threads in mind.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2015-01-02 21:05:28 Reply

Plans for this year

Since I live a very busy life (as some may know) I decided that it would be a good idea to show the rest of the world how I combine that life with music production. So, I'm gonna use my Facebook page (which has been inactive for a looong time) as some sort of blog to show how music production, dj'ing and college life go together. I figured it would be an original concept which hopefully would gain interest and eventually would lead to more publicity. What do you guys think of this? :)


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2015-01-03 09:30:12 Reply

At 1/2/15 09:05 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: Plans for this year

Since I live a very busy life (as some may know) I decided that it would be a good idea to show the rest of the world how I combine that life with music production. So, I'm gonna use my Facebook page (which has been inactive for a looong time) as some sort of blog to show how music production, dj'ing and college life go together. I figured it would be an original concept which hopefully would gain interest and eventually would lead to more publicity. What do you guys think of this? :)

Yeah man, go for it. Those kinds of posts are what your Facebook page is for after all! It's a rather nice way to keep the page updated (something which I have trouble doing with my own Facebook page, which has 900 totally undeserved likes since I almost never use it haha).

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On an unrelated note, I find it amusing how this guy may be using Chaoz Fantasy as a point of quality reference for every song he hears on Newgrounds.

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At 1/3/15 09:30 AM, Step wrote:
On an unrelated note, I find it amusing how this guy may be using Chaoz Fantasy as a point of quality reference for every song he hears on Newgrounds.

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brb letz hear that fantasy tune...


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