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Date
06/16/2012
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1 min 34 sec
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4.59 / 5.00

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Here we have a remake of an old song of mine. I added a decent guitar, much better drums, a new melody, made it quicker, did much better mixing, smoother transitions and a decent ending. I also got rid of the weird piano intro in the original.

This is actually for Father's Day. I'm not so experienced when it comes to pop but pop is my dad's favourite genre so I thought it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot, even though I'm really really busy with exams right now. This took me nearly three hours, and it's not really that good. It's generic, cheesy and a little repetitive but I'm really hoping my dad likes it. It's the least I can do for such an awesome dad I guess.

SO, this uses East/West Symphonic Orchestra for the strings and piano, East/West Ra for the flute, Virtual Guitarist for the guitar, EZdrummer for the drums (although I'm getting my little brother to drum with it on the day so it can be a joint present) and a free soundfont called BassFing for the bass, because I don't have any good bass VST's :(.

Even though I didn't work too hard on it, I hope you guys enjoy it. Father's Day is tomorrow so feedback before tomorrow would be really appreciated!

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SkyeWintSkyeWint

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars

My turn. :D

DA GOOD:
-Not a bad intro there, it sounds quite nice.
-Speaking of the intro, that piano. Sounds. Great. It has a lot of depth to it, and a fairly realistic quality of the 'weight' in the keys. Obviously it could be improved, and isn't quite 'real', but it's pretty close for a loop.
-I like the drums, there's just one thing I'd comment on with it, which I'll get to in my DA STUFF-THAT-CAN-BE-IMPROVED section. ...also, you're getting your little brother to drum? Sweeet.
-The guitar sounds pretty good, and is more realistic than anything I could get. :P
-Tune's nice, I suppose. Definitely not bad to listen to, though it's not your best one.

DA STUFF-THAT-CAN-BE-IMPROVED:
-Alright, since I mentioned it before, I'll poke it immediately. The drums could use a few fills - don't forget those toms or ride cymbal rolls!
-I probably wouldn't have noticed the mixing issues on the bass if it hadn't been mentioned below, but yeah, they're right. There is something odd about the bass' mixing. I personally don't think it's the reverb. It might be something else I'll mention next.
-Also about the bass. The rhythms and notes seem to be slightly off. Some of the notes let go slightly later than they should, and some of the pitches are slightly off, not sure whether you intended to detune it, but whatever's going on there, it doesn't quite work.
-The strings could use a little bit more depth, and they move a little bit too fast for strings. Might be better to have a solo string like the flute doing the tune with the larger strings in the background like the guitar.
-Yes, I know it's pop, shush. Even pop can have a secondary section and another tune. This sounds nice, and I know you kept it short because there isn't another section in it (not because you only worked on it for three hours, don't tell me that's the reason. <.<). But seriously, could have at least had a little 10-15 second break to a few different chords and a different tune.
-Not sure whether the flute should have been in there. It sounds cool, yes, but it's not quite fitting for a 'pop' song. Granted, I know it's your style to do things differently, and I'd probably do it to, but still. This only applies if you were really looking for the 'pop' feel.
-If you're looking for a better bass, the basses in the default Kontakt library work great. Also, there are the Sytrus basses (some other preset packs come with pretty sweet basses), and one default FL instrument called "BooBass" that generally is pretty good. They're not the most realistic, but they are good bass sounds.

Overall: Good, good, good, could be improved a lot, but still better than most of the pop stuff I hear. I honestly don't like lyrics that much in songs unless they're done really, REALLY well.

Okay, bye now! I must be getting on the plane to Australia~ I'll be sure to work on more music on the flight there, so hopefully I'll have enough to at least preview up here.

-Swint-


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Step responds:

DAMN that's an enormous review, on just 1 minute and a half of music. And it's all so detailed. Ridiculous attempt at critique my ass!

"-Not a bad intro there"

Sweet. I had that intro in mind for a while and even practised it on my piano at first.

"-Speaking of the intro, that piano. Sounds. Great."

Mhmm, that's thanks to East/West Symphonic Orchestra's really awesome Steinway piano sample. I think in every song of mine that incorporates a piano from my song Eclipse onwards there's that East/West piano sample. I wish I could record myself playing but I don't have anything to record with! :(

" ...also, you're getting your little brother to drum? Sweeet."

Yup! My dad's the one that taught him drums and he actually drummed to the song yesterday for Father's Day. He did great, and he just missed a snare hit at one point which was pretty unnoticeable anyway.

"-The guitar sounds pretty good"

Strictly speaking I think it's recorded from a real guitar so yeah it should be pretty realistic. I've used the Virtual Guitarist guitar strum samples for every song of mine that has guitar strumming, it's a pretty good VST, which is leagues cheaper than East/West.

"-Tune's nice, I suppose. Definitely not bad to listen to, though it's not your best one."

Yeah I know. Glad you liked it though haha.

"-The drums could use a few fills - don't forget those toms or ride cymbal rolls!"

You're totally right. I focused on them towards the beginning of the song but when my brother announced to me that he can drum to it I decided to not focus on them much and just repeated the patterns with a few subtle changes.

"-There is something odd about the bass' mixing."

Could be. I really had to do some weird mixing to it so it won't sound that bad as I said below.

"-Also about the bass. The rhythms and notes seem to be slightly off."

The rhythm should be only ever so slightly off since it's supposed to be humanised but I see where you're coming from with the pitch. I actually added a lot of bass slides all over the place on loads of notes. I thought they might work and I kinda like them but I guess to each his own :P.

"-The strings could use a little bit more depth, and they move a little bit too fast for strings."

I was thinking of adding background strings to the song but I thought that might make it a bit too full of depth and only added them to the intro a little. I might've been wrong! As for the notes being too fast, that's certainly a possibility, I always assume that every instrument can play as quickly as the piano but I know that's a bad assumption xD.

"-Even pop can have a secondary section and another tune."

Naw you're right. I didn't manage to think of anything to add in time without sacrificing the flow and I wanted this to be a sort of quick thing, especially since I had a tonne of studying and other music projects to catch up with :P. But yeah you're definitely right.

"-Not sure whether the flute should have been in there."

True dat, I would've made that some more pop-ish instrument like a lead guitar but I didn't have a lead guitar and as you know I can't care less about the specifics of each genre, as long as what I make sounds half-decent in my ears :P.

"-If you're looking for a better bass..."

The reason I had to use this soundfont is because I wanted to do note-sliding which only works with native FL VST's and soundfonts. But I didn't even consider using BooBass or Sytrus, so that's a really good idea. I'll keep it in mind for the future if I want to add a bass and incorporate note-sliding.

"I honestly don't like lyrics that much in songs unless they're done really, REALLY well."

Same here! From my library of nearly 1000 songs, around 8 have vocals :P.

"Okay, bye now! I must be getting on the plane to Australia~ I'll be sure to work on more music on the flight there, so hopefully I'll have enough to at least preview up here."

Haha I'm going to Australia too, on the 15th of July :P. Anyway, have fun there, and thanks a million for the fantastic review. I must find the time to review you back! Thanks again!


Birdinator99Birdinator99

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars

Something's up with that bass, man. Don't know what you did, but it really distracts me from the other cool stuff that's going on, like the piano and the flute. I like the way it starts, and I won't blame you for the genre choice. Strings sound bright and play a neat part. You've got better stuff for sure, though.


Step responds:

Thanks for reviewing!

I explained to Buoy down there what I did to the bass. I really need a better bass sample :P.

Thanks for the quick feedback, I promise I'll try harder in the next track I submit! By the way, forgot to tell you! You know Harmony of a Hunter: 101% Run? The Metroid album I'm part of. Don't know if you saw my newspost but there's a new album preview out if you'd like to see it! My track is the Luminoth one.


BuoyBuoy

Rated 3.5 / 5 stars

Gonna comment on each element real quick:
Piano is good. Love the deep end of it. 0:16 was cool. Guitar sounds pretty great for what it is. Strings sound kinda, uh I guess I'll call it "raw", I didn't care much for them anyway. Bass is pretty blurry/muddy, sounds like there's a chorus or reverb there that it'd be better off without. Bassline is good though. I feel that the drums sound a bit out of place but I can't quite put my finger on it. Ending works fine. So yeah pretty okay, nowhere near some of your other works though of course.


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Step responds:

Oh hey, thanks a lot for reviewing!

"Gonna comment on each element real quick:"

Gonna respond to each comment real quick.

"Piano is good. Love the deep end of it."

Haha I've gotten used to using this piano sample and mixing it so I know which frequency ranges to lower and how much reverb I need to put on it like the back of my hand.

"0:16 was cool."

Yeah that kind of transition was in my head for a while and I tried it for the first time here.

"Guitar sounds pretty great for what it is."

You know Virtual Guitarist doesn't give you much control (the strums are all presets and if you want your guitar to do different strums then you need to load up the guitar again and choose another one of the fairly limited strum presets). Still, on the bright side the guitars sound fairly awesome.

"Strings sound kinda, uh I guess I'll call it "raw", I didn't care much for them anyway."

I see. To be honest I didn't work on them much, I just added them there as a testament to the original version.

"Bass is pretty blurry/muddy, sounds like there's a chorus or reverb there that it'd be better off without. Bassline is good though."

I did add a tiny bit of reverb but you've got to have god ears to actually hear it so I think what you're hearing is the weird EQ I put on it. It's a soundfont so it sounds pretty bad and unrealistic (for example when you let go of a note the sample just stops really quickly, as if the string suddenly stops vibrating) and it had a really ugly plucking sound which I removed by obliterating a lot of its high/upper mid frequencies, making it sound blurry/undefined. Trust me, it sounds better than how it was :(.

"I feel that the drums sound a bit out of place but I can't quite put my finger on it."

I'm not used to doing these kind of drums in a piano roll. I usually do them in a step sequencer but I obviously can't do that with EZdrummer so maybe I messed up a little.

"Ending works fine."

Yay.

"So yeah pretty okay, nowhere near some of your other works though of course."

True that. My dad loved it though at least! The only mistake my brother did while drumming was missing a snare hit. It's probably due to the fact that he stays too close to the drums so that his fairly short leg can reach the bass drum pedal :P.

Thanks again dude!


supermario456supermario456

Rated 5 / 5 stars

Really Awesome!


Step responds:

Hey thanks!