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Reviews for "Infanticidal - Censored"

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i don't find this wrong....
its a dead body,like any dead body,people come people go.
and here are some this you should know:
the embrio desn't feel pain.(if i'm wrong,please expalin it to me)
i agree with the whole"if you get an unwanted child give it up for adoption" thing,but sadly,people are stupid.and will not follow these simple directions.
in the end-its dead,it had the potencial to be a child,so did the 1000000 sperms i jerkt out today.the real subject here is where life begins.does the sperm and egg equal life?
simply put,the genetic structure changes so that the cells divide.by this theory the cell are alive already,and millions of those die on me every day.should i be mourning them?

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Now, all you did was emphasize how abortion ends a life that has already begun. Which is of course sad. You on the other hand only put emphasis on how terrible it looked. And that is nonsense. The embryo's aren't tortured to death, but you make it seem so. I don't know where you got the pictures from but normally they don't let the embryo or pieces from it pose with a coin after they're done.
That said: abortions most of the time aren't performed to keep the unborn baby from leading a happy life. Imagine a girl who got pregnant after a rape. Imagine her raising a kid that wasn't conceived in love and causes her pain of memory everytime she looks at it. A lot of kids nowadays are raised pretty badly, you know. Think about that.

Anenome responds:

"You on the other hand only put emphasis on how terrible it looked. And that is nonsense."
- It makes perfect sense actually, to counter the lie of those who say that the unborn is 'just a mass of formless tissue'. No, these are small human beings, recognizably human, and that lie will no longer be believed after seeing these photos.

"The embryo's aren't tortured to death, but you make it seem so."
- Here you betray your ignorance on the subject. These babies are not administered any type of anesthesia in the womb before being dismembered. And they are capable of feeling pain long before birth. And to avoid damaging the mother, the limbs of the baby has to be ripped off very slowly by the physician. So, imagine having your arm grasped by sharp metal tongs, and then, very slowly, spun until the bone, flesh, and gristle have been so thoroughly twisted that they just snap off, imagine that pain.

"I don't know where you got the pictures from but normally they don't let the embryo or pieces from it pose with a coin after they're done."
- You obviously didn't watch the whole thing then, since it's in the credits. Check AbortionNO.org. They paid an abortionist for access to his aborted remains in his clinic. Basically he'll do anything for money, including murdering babies, and then letting their bodies be photographed.

"abortions most of the time aren't performed to keep the unborn baby from leading a happy life."
- There's a ton of people waiting to adopt, with happy two parent families, so don't give me that. Sex is not something that is inevitable, it is a free choice with its own consequences. Abortion merely shifts those consequences from the mother and father to the baby, with deadly results. I say people should be responsible for their own decisions, not pass them on to their children. How fair would it be if your mother ran up a million dollar debt then passed it on to you. That wouldn't even be as bad as if your mom got the death penalty for some crime and then they executed you instead and let her go. That's the unfairness of abortion, murdering the entire future of our children just to save a couple months of inconvenience before you could adopt it away to a loving home.

"Imagine a girl who got pregnant after a rape. Imagine her raising a kid that wasn't conceived in love and causes her pain of memory everytime she looks at it. A lot of kids nowadays are raised pretty badly, you know."
- So in other words they might have an unhappy life therefore kill them? What about people who are born horribly deformed, should we kill them too? Rape is a terrible thing, but even that does not justify murder of innocents. I say kill the rapist, not the baby!

The only difference between you and an unborn baby is age and time to grow. If a girl and a guy choose to have sex and by that produce a baby, knowing that pregnancy COULD result, then they have chosen to accept that risk of pregnancy, and if it then occurs can be asked by society to bear the consequences of that decision that they freely chose. It is not a disease or parasite that attacks you apart from your own will. You have willed or decided to become pregnant by engaging in activities you know can make you pregnant. And since the result is another human being with a right to its own body, we should ensure that the irresponsibility of mothers and fathers does not result in the death of the only completely innocent persons on the planet: the unborn. Thank you for watching my flash ;D

OK. I understand that abortion is terrible but... I dont suppose you have done anything to STOP this terror. Rase a protest group? Start some kind of law against it? All you have done is make us all feel sick, nothing more. Happy? i hope i dont stutter when i say b-b-blam!

Anenome responds:

Well, for one thing I've done this flash. One thing about an image is, once it gets in there you can't ever get it out. Until today you've been told that an unborn baby was merely a "mass of tissue", from this day forward you can never again believe that lie - because you have seen it with your own eyes. I have picketed a Planned Parenthood once in my life a long time ago, no big deal, not very effective. But in the history of social change, images are extremely effective. They help the viewer to rationalize their choice to change their mind about a subject. I hope this movie helps many people to decide to change their minds after viewing the truth of abortion: it is human, it is alive, and it is wrong.

Morality, who are you?

Look here, I don't think you are pro-life, I think you are more in the vein of pro-over-population. "we are taking away the right from millions of our children" That my friend is bullshit. There are sooo many key factors that play a role in getting an abortion, so the fact that you are trying to bombard us with sick images to prove a stupid and overly-opinionated point of view is not only wrong, but obviously bias. You must look at every situation with a certain amount of objectivity, not curse it just just because you think you are the epitome of moral justice.

Let's face it, teenagers like to screw, I know, I am one. Of course we need to take responsibility, and precautions, with our actions. But if we just do away with all that, and actually allow every single, sexually-active teenager to have as many children they could have, then we have increase in poverty and mouths to feed. War, famine, disease and yes, even abortion, are social conditions which counter-attack the death of our species through over-population. So basically what I am trying to say is, settle down when it comes to abortion. I'm not saying its necessarily correct to get one, but lets pay attention to certain factors before you condemn it.

Anenome responds:

Overpopulation: See my response below disproving the whole "earth is overpopulated" nonsense. Using your rationale, that would mean the Holocaust was actually a good thing since it helped to avoid overpopulation, well I disagree. Overpopulation or not, murder is not the answer.

"There are sooo many key factors that play a role in getting an abortion" - Yeah, but there's only two 'factors' in getting pregnant.

"You must look at every situation with a certain amount of objectivity, not curse it just just because you think you are the epitome of moral justice." - Objectivity is precisely the stance I've chosen. And murder is objectively wrong. Does age of the murdered make any ethical difference? Is it less wrong to murder someone who's 97 and probably near death than it is to murder a one year old child with it's whole life ahead of it? If not, if you would get the same sentence for both under the law, then why should it matter for children younger than a year? If it has rights when it's a year old, then it has right when it's 6 months, the same rights mind you. Then it has the same rights when it's six weeks old, or six hours old, or even six minutes after being born. Question, does it have the same rights six minutes before being born? There's no fundamental ethical difference between a kid who's five minutes before birth or after birth. Murder it five minutes after it's born and you'll be arrested. But, murder it five minutes before it's born, and they call it 'partial-birth' and it's legal. That's a sham.

"Let's face it, teenagers like to screw, I know, I am one. Of course we need to take responsibility, and precautions, with our actions." - That's precisely my point. If you decide to have sex, and know it causes pregnancy, no matter what the odds are, if your number comes up then you've chosen that potential. So, live with it. Don't murder to avoid your responsibility. How selfish is that? Most people simply accept abortion because they are unwilling to curb their own sexual desires. Where's the objectivity in that? People are willing to trade orgasms for approving of murder? That's just wrong.

"if we just do away with all that, and actually allow every single, sexually-active teenager to have as many children they could have, then we have increase in poverty and mouths to feed." - You're assuming behavior wouldn't change if the law changed. With a change in the law, making abortion illegal, people would realize they couldn't get abortions if they got pregnant, and would probably be a lot more choosy about their sexual choices. That would probably be a turn for the better.

"War, famine, disease and yes, even abortion, are social conditions which counter-attack the death of our species through over-population." - Your overpopulation thesis is ridiculous. Then again, why should I have to tell this to someone who has taken on the name of "Mao", Mao Tse Tung, a guy who FORCED his own to people to have abortions to "avoid overpopulation" in China, not to mention starved 30 million of his own people to death by his failed agricultural socialism.

"settle down when it comes to abortion. I'm not saying its necessarily correct to get one, but lets pay attention to certain factors before you condemn it." - Dude, trust me, I've been over every consideration. I do not take this subject lightly. Nor do I take lightly the very real moral and ethical considerations. And in the end they trump everything else. No matter what benefit you can list, if the price is murder it's simply not worth it.

Sickeningly Stupid

I hate it when people like you use gross images to try and prove something wrong. I also hate all this shit about potential lives being taken away, every time someone masterbates or uses a condom "potential lives" are taken away, so stop trying to use that to effect people's emotions.

Although I do think late term abortions should be made illegal, there is no reason why abortions should be banned on the whole. Why shouuld we force people who are expecting children to find illegal methods of aborting fetuses, by doing this your not only creating an illegal market but also endangering the mother.

It's stupid of you to take an ignorant simplified attitude towards the issue without considering the concequences of such an action.

Anenome responds:

"I also hate all this shit about potential lives being taken away..." - That's not a potential life, those are actual lives. In other words, had they NOT been aborted they would have, with time, grown to become a normal human being just like you or me. There is no fundamental physical, moral, or ethical difference between the unborn and the born. The born are simply older.

"every time someone masterbates or uses a condom "potential lives" are taken away, so stop trying to use that to effect people's emotions." - I disagree, things such as in your remark does not result in the formation of a unique human DNA or unique human cell which can grow to become a full human being. Maybe a catholic would argue that, but I think it's a silly idea.

"Although I do think late term abortions should be made illegal," - You might ask yourself why, since there's no difference between a late-term and earlier terms except age and the fact that it's more obviously murder.

"there is no reason why abortions should be banned on the whole" - Not even the question of whether or not it's murder? You are cold-hearted.

"Why should we force people who are expecting children to find illegal methods of aborting fetuses," - Pregnancy is not (in the vast majority of cases) a life threatening event. Again, if you so do not want to get pregnant that you would MURDER to prevent it then perhaps you shouldn't be having sex right now. Banning abortion is not the same thing as forcing women to have unsafe medical procedures on themselves, that's their illegal and immoral choice in that case.

"by doing this your not only creating an illegal market but also endangering the mother." - I'm not endangering anyone. It's far safer to actually have the kid than to try to abort it. As for the illegal market, vastly fewer women would be willing to have an abortion under such circumstances, far less total human beings would die, that's a good thing.

"It's stupid of you to take an ignorant simplified attitude towards the issue without considering the concequences of such an action." - Whether it's 'stupid and simplified' is merely your opinion. Again, I have certainly considered the consequences and have not found them to be a compelling argument. If you'd care to explain to all the nice people how several thousand murders of innocent babies per day is going to make life better, then good luck.