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Clarifications... 2002-03-11 01:10:10


I thought I would take a moment to clarify all the rumors and paranoia going on about Newdgrounds.com...

1) While Newdgrounds showcases adult Flash, cartoons and games aren't the sole offering. You can find all sorts of traditional adult material there as well - so anyone who is looking for an adult site of any type should be able to find what they are looking for at Newdgrounds.

2) The fact that Newdgrounds is intended to separate adult content from NG doesn't mean we are turning Newgrounds into a G-rated site. Content can still be as extreme as just about anything you see here currently. There is some stuff on NG that we may eventually move over to Newdgrounds, but we won't be moving anything without first discussing it with the original authors. If you have something on NG that is questionable - stop freaking out, sit back, and wait to see if you hear from us. We plan to help people make $$ for content on Newdgrounds, and if we put any of your content on there, it will be with your permission and you'll at least be able to see it for free.

3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day.

I just hope that some day I will finally be able to hire Jose away from Blockbuster. ;)


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Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 01:37:03


WE WANT JOSE!!!

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 02:09:16


when i first saw the +18 button on the top of the page i got very excited, not because of the new site, but because i realized now alot of the very lame "movies" people make that are in actuality a slide show of porn pictures may not be filling up the portal anymore.

and maybe good animators will start getting the scores they deserve since people won't see a funny non sexual movie after a porn slide show and vote lower on it due to the lack of nudity, great idea Tom

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 02:19:25


I really like the whole concept of making NG more 'presentable'. One time earlier this year, I showed Rooftop skater to a lovely female friend of mine. While I was pulling it up on her computer, I asked her politely to look the other way while I pull up the flash and avoid porn.

Then I found out that she liked porn. Hahaha...

Anyways, I guess that story doesn't really support my claim of wanting to make NG more presentable. I'll just say that it would be nice to get rid of the porn banners just in case the situation were to pop up again and the girl didn't like porn.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 02:23:21


Well, whatever you do Tom I support you and hope it works out

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 02:30:26


At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote: I thought I would take a moment to clarify all the rumors and paranoia going on about Newdgrounds.com...

1) While Newdgrounds showcases adult Flash, cartoons and games aren't the sole offering. You can find all sorts of traditional adult material there as well - so anyone who is looking for an adult site of any type should be able to find what they are looking for at Newdgrounds.

2) The fact that Newdgrounds is intended to separate adult content from NG doesn't mean we are turning Newgrounds into a G-rated site. Content can still be as extreme as just about anything you see here currently. There is some stuff on NG that we may eventually move over to Newdgrounds, but we won't be moving anything without first discussing it with the original authors. If you have something on NG that is questionable - stop freaking out, sit back, and wait to see if you hear from us. We plan to help people make $$ for content on Newdgrounds, and if we put any of your content on there, it will be with your permission and you'll at least be able to see it for free.

3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day.

I just hope that some day I will finally be able to hire Jose away from Blockbuster. ;)

Clarifications...

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 03:02:58


Anyways, I guess that story doesn't really support my claim of wanting to make NG more presentable. I'll just say that it would be nice to get rid of the porn banners just in case the situation were to pop up again and the girl didn't like porn.

Yeah, girls like porn. They just want us to belive they don't, to skrew with our mind.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 04:30:13


At 3/11/02 03:02 AM, Sirkowski wrote:
Anyways, I guess that story doesn't really support my claim of wanting to make NG more presentable. I'll just say that it would be nice to get rid of the porn banners just in case the situation were to pop up again and the girl didn't like porn.
Yeah, girls like porn. They just want us to belive they don't, to skrew with our mind.

ya that makes sense

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 04:36:30


I think what you are doing is fair enough, everybody has got to earn a living and you are definitly NOT selling out, if you were you would start charging people for the use of NG, and you are not- and hopefully will continue not to. If you had let NG slide it would have turned into Newdgrounds.com, but you didn't so well done. However I do have one thing to complain about: the new banner at the top, please please get rid of it. Putting a clear "ADULT 18+" across the whole site does definitly not clean up the image. Even the 'Hot' banner, while I realise is just alot of collections still denotes adult entertainment. Please get rid of it.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 06:01:28


At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote: I thought I would take a moment to clarify all the rumors and paranoia going on about Newdgrounds.com...

1) While Newdgrounds showcases adult Flash, cartoons and games aren't the sole offering. You can find all sorts of traditional adult material there as well - so anyone who is looking for an adult site of any type should be able to find what they are looking for at Newdgrounds.

2) The fact that Newdgrounds is intended to separate adult content from NG doesn't mean we are turning Newgrounds into a G-rated site. Content can still be as extreme as just about anything you see here currently. There is some stuff on NG that we may eventually move over to Newdgrounds, but we won't be moving anything without first discussing it with the original authors. If you have something on NG that is questionable - stop freaking out, sit back, and wait to see if you hear from us. We plan to help people make $$ for content on Newdgrounds, and if we put any of your content on there, it will be with your permission and you'll at least be able to see it for free.

3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day.

I just hope that some day I will finally be able to hire Jose away from Blockbuster. ;)

What you said for #2 would make someone actually want to make a pornographic movie! Anyway.. keep up the good work!

Clarifications...

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 08:26:37


At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote:

... 3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day...

I think that's a really good thing for newgrounds, It's really anoying when you are in a good mood, ready to kill Brittney a few times, and then have to look at adds for porn sites.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 09:25:09


I understand, tom, every body needs a little bling bling... you deserve more bling bling then im geussing you get
good for yous guys, go get yourself somethin nice

Clarifications...

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 11:10:51


I just hope that some day I will finally be able to hire Jose away from Blockbuster. ;)

At least Jose HAS a job :P

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 11:44:45



3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day.

I am very glad to hear this. Not everyone like porn all over the place.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 12:50:35


At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote: I thought I would take a moment to clarify all the rumors and paranoia going on about Newdgrounds.com...

1) While Newdgrounds showcases adult Flash, cartoons and games aren't the sole offering. You can find all sorts of traditional adult material there as well - so anyone who is looking for an adult site of any type should be able to find what they are looking for at Newdgrounds.

2) The fact that Newdgrounds is intended to separate adult content from NG doesn't mean we are turning Newgrounds into a G-rated site. Content can still be as extreme as just about anything you see here currently. There is some stuff on NG that we may eventually move over to Newdgrounds, but we won't be moving anything without first discussing it with the original authors. If you have something on NG that is questionable - stop freaking out, sit back, and wait to see if you hear from us. We plan to help people make $$ for content on Newdgrounds, and if we put any of your content on there, it will be with your permission and you'll at least be able to see it for free.

3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day.

I just hope that some day I will finally be able to hire Jose away from Blockbuster. ;)

Sounds good. You've got my support.

Well, almost. If Jose remains at Blockbuster, you can get plenty of free rentals :)

I have two questions that I'd like you to clear up:

1) Will www.newdgrounds.com consume bandwidth that Newgrounds uses?

2) Just to make sure, will there be no stopping Newgrounds in at least the next year or two? (Like, if www.newdgrounds.com flops completely, Newgrounds won't suffer or change?)


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Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 12:51:27


I'm all for the change. I was wondering why lately so many porn banners kept appearing on the pages. After a while it would be easy to see why people wouldn't take this site seriously, or think it's just a front for porno. I don't know how much shit you guys are taking for suggesting the change over, but I for one will be looking forward to it.

At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote: I thought I would take a moment to clarify all the rumors and paranoia going on about Newdgrounds.com...

1) While Newdgrounds showcases adult Flash, cartoons and games aren't the sole offering. You can find all sorts of traditional adult material there as well - so anyone who is looking for an adult site of any type should be able to find what they are looking for at Newdgrounds.

2) The fact that Newdgrounds is intended to separate adult content from NG doesn't mean we are turning Newgrounds into a G-rated site. Content can still be as extreme as just about anything you see here currently. There is some stuff on NG that we may eventually move over to Newdgrounds, but we won't be moving anything without first discussing it with the original authors. If you have something on NG that is questionable - stop freaking out, sit back, and wait to see if you hear from us. We plan to help people make $$ for content on Newdgrounds, and if we put any of your content on there, it will be with your permission and you'll at least be able to see it for free.

3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day.

I just hope that some day I will finally be able to hire Jose away from Blockbuster. ;)

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 13:08:45


Keep the porn for Newdground!!Get off those stupid porn banners and promote others flash gaming sites etc.
I mean imagine a kid looking for good flash games lands on this site and sees those banners, (ok thats a bad exemple ;) ).
Aniways good luck.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 13:20:18


Ok - now I feel a bit better knowing that it would be discussed with the author prior to moving submissions over to Newd. Thanks for the speedy response and I apologize if I stirred up a bunch of shit for you with my paranoia movie. But it got me the answers I needed. I really didn't think you were the kind of guy to screw ppl over like that, but I didn't think ppl would purposely fly jetliners into buildings 6 months ago either. Just goes to show - you never know - until you know. Good luck with everything Tom and thanks again -
ScrunchMuppet

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Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 16:39:59


I would be extremely happy if newgrounds again became just a good place to watch funny flash films instead of the dirty, dirty, dirty, site it is about to become. Half of the Portal entries are freaking porn! I remember coming here a few years ago in the school computer lab. If I went now I'd be expelled. The porn ads suck ass too. GIRLIE ZOO.com!??!!!?!!? What the hell! I DON'T want to see a girl screwing a dog! Anyway I'm happy about the changes. newdgrounds is a funny name anyway.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 18:08:02


You will not get rid of the desperado 13-year-old boys (and a few girls, probably) by putting up Newdgrounds, cause they can't join it. They don't have a credit card!

So it makes me glad to hear that you already know that-- you're not trying to shift porno-seeker traffic away from NG, you're only trying to make money with NDG so you can toss the girl-on-zebra porn banner ads.

Well, if I could get on NDG I would! I know, I know... 18 and I still can't join porn sites, for fear of it showing up on my bank statement. Pathetic.

If I could mail you some money instead of using plastic, I'd definitely do that. Got a snail-mail adress?

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 19:58:04


At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote:

[stuff about Newdgrounds.com]

I like that idea. First, you guys are hopefully going to make some cash on this, which means you can devote more time to both NG's and less time worrying about how to pay the bills. Second, those porn banners are annoying as all hell. Anytime I want to kill Britney Spears, I have to see an ad for a site with "real" nude celebrities. (As if.) If Newgrounds can do away with some of the more obvious porn advertisements, I could feel better about sharing the site with my friends and family.

And to whoever was wishing that Newgrounds was once again a happy and cheerful place that was not at all offensive, what the hell are you talking about? I remember when Kill the Spice Girls was in HTML, and New Ground Atomix was anything but innocent. I say go for it, Tom. If I ever feel the need to pay for online porn, I'd much rather get it from someone with a reputation for good content and a clever attitude.

My one caveat in all of this is that I don't know if the Newdgrounds name is so wise. After all, the reputation effect could work both ways.


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Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 20:14:31


At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote: 2) The fact that Newdgrounds is intended to separate adult content from NG doesn't mean we are turning Newgrounds into a G-rated site.

Thank god...

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 20:43:27


Generally I think that your suggestion to clean up newgrounds is good and that you're making the effort to clarify the details shows that you're striving to make it better and better. Keep it up, you have my support.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 21:10:47


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vice president
Robert

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-11 22:10:38


At 3/11/02 01:10 AM, TomFulp wrote: I thought I would take a moment to clarify all the rumors and paranoia going on about Newdgrounds.com...

1) While Newdgrounds showcases adult Flash, cartoons and games aren't the sole offering. You can find all sorts of traditional adult material there as well - so anyone who is looking for an adult site of any type should be able to find what they are looking for at Newdgrounds.

2) The fact that Newdgrounds is intended to separate adult content from NG doesn't mean we are turning Newgrounds into a G-rated site. Content can still be as extreme as just about anything you see here currently. There is some stuff on NG that we may eventually move over to Newdgrounds, but we won't be moving anything without first discussing it with the original authors. If you have something on NG that is questionable - stop freaking out, sit back, and wait to see if you hear from us. We plan to help people make $$ for content on Newdgrounds, and if we put any of your content on there, it will be with your permission and you'll at least be able to see it for free.

3) I want NG to be "presentable" (ie less blatant porn advertising), but give me some time. These things don't happen overnight. I'm putting the pieces in place, and if all goes well then you will see things change over time. If it makes you feel any better, most of the major search engines own and secretely promote their own porn sites, as do many other mainstream internet sites - they are just much more discrete about it. There's your industry inside tip of the day.

I just hope that some day I will finally be able to hire Jose away from Blockbuster. ;)

Nice site... one question, where u get the pics of the chix and stuff

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-12 08:51:30


At 3/11/02 08:43 PM, Dethyl wrote: Generally i think that your suggestion to klean up newsground is great and that u r taking the effort to klarify dez detailz shows that u r striving to make it beta and beta. Keep at it, you have our support...

[for what it's worth :]_Ditto!!

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-12 12:28:48


19.95 a month? Guess I can go without a few meals here and there...

In all seriousness, good move! I was mad sick of those cheesy ass submitters who scanned a hentai comic book to impress their 8th grade, older friends.

Hope you get a ton of subscribers n' stuff.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-12 18:57:38


Brilliant Plan.
Seperate the Porn and the not so porn. If people want the Porn, they know where to find it. If they don't they know they wont be harrased.

This does mean that Newgrounds will be replacing the Porno adds??? Hope so, Big distraction.

Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-12 22:44:37


(I know I asked these questions already, but I thought I'd post them again so you'll surely see them.)

1) Will www.newdgrounds.com consume bandwidth that Newgrounds uses?

2) Just to make sure, will there be no stopping Newgrounds in at least the next year or two? (Like, if www.newdgrounds.com flops completely, Newgrounds won't suffer or change?)


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Response to Clarifications... 2002-03-12 23:32:03


Cost Money!!