i just so happen to have stumble upon a portable version of both which i have in my possession.
i heard CS3 is more stable but i also haven't heard anything about 8.
figured i'd just post to tout my success after contracting a many virus/malware to find ones that were legit.
yay, time to sit on my laurels and do nothing with either HAHA!
At 6/6/17 02:26 PM, DeviantTheHedgehog wrote: i just so happen to have stumble upon a portable version of both which i have in my possession.
i heard CS3 is more stable but i also haven't heard anything about 8.
figured i'd just post to tout my success after contracting a many virus/malware to find ones that were legit.
yay, time to sit on my laurels and do nothing with either HAHA!
Why even bother with illegal old versions of Flash when you have free access to MUCH BETTER animation tools such as Opentoonz, Blender and Fusion?
At 6/6/17 06:18 PM, hvanderwegen wrote:At 6/6/17 02:26 PM, DeviantTheHedgehog wrote: i just so happen to have stumble upon a portable version of both which i have in my possession.Why even bother with illegal old versions of Flash when you have free access to MUCH BETTER animation tools such as Opentoonz, Blender and Fusion?
i heard CS3 is more stable but i also haven't heard anything about 8.
figured i'd just post to tout my success after contracting a many virus/malware to find ones that were legit.
yay, time to sit on my laurels and do nothing with either HAHA!
>opentoonz
>blender
Sure if you want to spend half the time trying to figure out how it works in the first place.
As someone that's had both I can say that Flash 8 feels a lot more stable and I've had fewer issues with it overall. I had to change the soundtrack of a game I made in Flash 8 in CS3 and for some reason it broke the in-game medals, which seems to be an issue with the version itself.
On the other hand the main selling point of CS3 is that it supports AS3, so if you're looking to make games it gives you a whole wealth of options. Not only does AS3 support more features and promote better coding habits, but it's also compatible with stuff like Adobe AIR so you can export to mobile devices.
That said you could easily work with Flash 8 if you're just making animations.
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At 6/6/17 02:26 PM, DeviantTheHedgehog wrote: i just so happen to have stumble upon a portable version of both which i have in my possession.
i heard CS3 is more stable but i also haven't heard anything about 8.
figured i'd just post to tout my success after contracting a many virus/malware to find ones that were legit.
yay, time to sit on my laurels and do nothing with either HAHA!
Art-wise not much changed from flash 8 to CS3. Both were fairly robust builds.
In Flash 8, Macromedia had just added filters for MovieClips (drop shadow, blur, etc). Basic blending modes were introduced which you see in the likes of Photoshop. The modes were, Normal, Layer, Darken, Multiply, Lighten, Screen, Overlay, etc, These were also carried over into future versions when Adobe took it over.
The brush tool changed from F8 to CS3, sensitivity pressure varied slightly, but I found both very workable. Most users wouldn't be able to tell them apart. However, stick animators tend to be able to spot it, due to their dependency on line width and precision, frame by frame. So, in my opinion either is very acceptable.
I'd like to add quickly, both are very out of date, and Flash 8 is now 12 years old. The new tools for creation within Animate CC 2017 merit the use, they speed up workflow, export to video (flash player is dead), have great creation tools, including your ability to make your own brushes, and animate them too. Palettes, Cameras, etc. Adobe are reinvesting in the application. So if you have the opportunity to use that, then do.
At 6/13/17 08:44 AM, PentilexTV wrote:At 6/6/17 06:18 PM, hvanderwegen wrote:>opentoonzAt 6/6/17 02:26 PM, DeviantTheHedgehog wrote: i just so happen to have stumble upon a portable version of both which i have in my possession.Why even bother with illegal old versions of Flash when you have free access to MUCH BETTER animation tools such as Opentoonz, Blender and Fusion?
i heard CS3 is more stable but i also haven't heard anything about 8.
figured i'd just post to tout my success after contracting a many virus/malware to find ones that were legit.
yay, time to sit on my laurels and do nothing with either HAHA!
>blender
Sure if you want to spend half the time trying to figure out how it works in the first place.
OpenToonz is actually easy to learn. Sure, it is different compared to Flash, but not hard to use at all. I made the switch within a couple of hours. Then again, your mileage may vary. The one thing that does feel alien to many users (in particular the ones used to Flash) is that assets in a project are individually saved. This offers many advantages, but yes, I agree that for simpler work it may seem overkill.
Anyway, the point I tried to make was about working with cracked outdated versions of Flash that are riddled with viruses and other malware (as the OP pointed out) when free excellent alternatives to create animation exist.
At 6/6/17 06:18 PM, hvanderwegen wrote:At 6/6/17 02:26 PM, DeviantTheHedgehog wrote: i just so happen to have stumble upon a portable version of both which i have in my possession.Why even bother with illegal old versions of Flash when you have free access to MUCH BETTER animation tools such as Opentoonz, Blender and Fusion?
i heard CS3 is more stable but i also haven't heard anything about 8.
figured i'd just post to tout my success after contracting a many virus/malware to find ones that were legit.
yay, time to sit on my laurels and do nothing with either HAHA!
what's with you and opentoonz/blender? lol this is like the third flash thread i've seen you spam those and they're barely viable options for anyone that wants to get into animation
At 7/1/17 07:44 AM, chronostaco wrote: what's with you and opentoonz/blender? lol this is like the third flash thread i've seen you spam those and they're barely viable options for anyone that wants to get into animation
All three Flash threads are about using an older cracked version of Flash, with all the dangers of ruining your computer with viruses and worse. Many animation beginners have no idea about this, and run a high risk of downloading either an infected 'trial' of Flash, or an infected keygen, or both (also mentioned in one of those threads - the OP had to reinstall Windows).
I'm merely mentioning other options, which are free, open source, legal, and safe to install and use - because I have seen many of my students install cracked versions of animation software, and then lose their work due to malware on their machines (caused by the cracked software). I just don't see the use of risking that when excellent alternatives exist even for free. If users here ask for cracked software I assume they do not have the financial resources to invest in commercial animation software.
And there is so much (freely available) animation sofware out there now! Krita, for example, is also a great starter animation app. Nice timeline, much better onion skinning than Flash, great painting and drawing tools.
As for OpenToonz being "barely viable for anyone wanting to get into animation": OpenToonz is taught (with success) to elementary school students in a number of schools, and has many tutorials available on Youtube to follow along. Whether you're starting out in Flash or in OpenToonz - I'd say the difference in difficulty level is marginal. The vector drawing tools in OpenToonz are as easy to work with, and more powerful (in particular when comparing to an ancient version of Flash 8)!
Of course, if you have money to purchase animation software, get an Adobe Animate CC subscription, or invest in Toonboom, TVPaint, or Moho. Or the commercial Toonz Premium. Not saying, btw, that these are in any way better than some of the free options - it depends on the type of animation you are after.
Anyway, I just see no reason anymore at this point for anyone to risk using cracked animation software that is also completely outdated and may not run on new hardware/operating systems, or with issues because they cannot be updated. Why go through all that hassle?
At 7/1/17 10:37 PM, hvanderwegen wrote: Anyway, I just see no reason anymore at this point for anyone to risk using cracked animation software that is also completely outdated and may not run on new hardware/operating systems, or with issues because they cannot be updated. Why go through all that hassle
Alot of the old animators that everyone knows from Newgrounds use different versions of old Flash, CS3 CS4 and what have you. They want to use similar tools that their favorite animators used before them. Now if you want to argue semantics of which tool is the best, I would say that Flash is not the best tool on the market to animate with at this point, but in the end it's not big of a deal:
It's not the program/tool that makes the animation good, it's the animator.
So there you have it, I've been using flash for years and I can say it's a great program, I've also used Krita,
Toon Boom, opentoonz and tv paint and they work just as well.
Edit: As for the getting viruses from old software: ehhhhh? I've got a copy of CS4 so I don't have to download one, but I still know that there's a portable version of Macromedia 8 floating around out there
that's still fine, and I'm sure people know of a way to get CS3 without issues. So I'll say it's up to them
if they want to take the chance.
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