At 6/3/16 11:50 AM, BrandonIsNear wrote:
Now before this thread gets locked and someone gets offended hear me out.
There's that stereotypical gay voice we all know about. Everyone I know who sounds 'gay' usually is. Which brings me to a moral dilemma.
Every time I hear someone with the gay voice, I assume they're gay. Stupid, sure, but it works every time.
However, there's also gay people who don't have the gay voice.
There are several types of gay people and that's your answer right there. The gay people who have the voice are the effeminate gays, but not all gays are effeminate gays. There are also macho gays. And there are more "blends in with everyone else" gays.
But yes everyone with the "gay voice" does turn out to be gay, pretty much. Even a few who denied it later turned out to just be in the closet.
And it's not just about having a high voice. Someone with a high voice isn't necessarily gay. But the "gay voice" isn't merely having a high voice but there's a certain way they speak which is really a "know it when you hear it". You can tell that isn't actually their natural speaking voice and that it's an intentional voice they're putting on, and that if they wanted to sound "normal" they could. But they prefer using that voice, I would assume, because it helps others to know that they're gay, without them having to explicitly tell people they're gay.
At 6/3/16 12:11 PM, BrandonIsNear wrote:
At 6/3/16 12:03 PM, NekoMika wrote:
Nope, I knew of no gay guys with the stereotyped lisp.
You're either lying or not telling the truth here.
I don't think she's lying, but I think just perhaps she doesn't know enough gay people to have really encountered it beyond perhaps TV shows. There happen to be a good amount of gay people in my area (despite being in the South and despite gay people being hated by the religious types around here), so it's more common.
At 6/3/16 05:15 PM, WahyaRanger2 wrote:
Secondly, it may only be cultural and subconscious. You tend to hear this lisp in big cities like San Fran, Hollywood, NYC, etc, but it diminishes or goes away altogether the more rural you get.
That's not really true. I'm not near any of those places and it's very common around here.
They say that the Northern and Southern portions of the United States had similar accents at the start of the Civil War. The South, in a subconscious quest to be different, began to develop an accent to set themselves apart. Before the War, there was almost no documentation of accent differences.
*cough* BS *cough*. Yankees developed those nasally accents, not us Southerners. So either the Northerners deliberately changed *their* accents, or, more likely, simply a matter of separation over time can naturally change things, and the accents on both sides changed, like how supposedly there are now differences in speech between North and South Korea. It doesn't even really take all that much time for some differences to form. -- I mean hell presumably all humans on earth spoke the same language at some point in the distant past and look where we are now.
Again, not to be a dick, but it is no secret that the LGBT community likes to stand out and make themselves known. Instead of a regional accent, it may have developed a cultural accent.
I can agree with this, however. It's possible it's a way for them to say "Hey I'm gay" without actually having to say "Hey I'm gay" in a world where there's a lot of people who would do them bodily harm simply for being gay. At least with the gay accent, there's the plausible deniability when confronted by a gay hater -- the gay hater doesn't have *proof* they're gay, so maybe they leave them be, even though they'll certainly be watching them.
