What is your opinion on feminists and feminism?

Personally I prefer the term "egalitarian" that way you don't have to group yourself in with the crazy legbeard man-haters.

There was this girl in my community college who was an overzealous feminist but for some reason she was dating a racist chauvinist neckbeard. Opposites attract, I suppose?

One of my buddies in uni is a feminist. I used to joke around and blame arbitrary things on the patriarchy, and she'd always agree with me. It was good for a quick laugh.

I used to think women who were "triggered" by men were real; that it was just a bit of tumblr satire, but I think there was a girl like that in my art class last semester. She always made a toothy scowl whenever a male tried to talk to her. I thought she was going to stab me after one time when we were both headed toward class, and she turned angrily toward me and ran off.

TL;DR: Not good.

At 7/12/15 12:52 PM, Tybia99 wrote: What is your opinion on feminists and feminism?

Feminism fights for gender equality and that's great.

At 7/12/15 01:53 PM, lovingthedark wrote:

At 7/12/15 12:52 PM, Tybia99 wrote: What is your opinion on feminists and feminism?

Feminism fights for gender equality and that's great.

If that were true then I would approve more of it. Sadly many feminists (the minority but still needs to be said) aren't satisfied with that and instead attempt to basically reverse the gender politics to have females with more power than males. Which is absolutely retarded as if it were to happen it wouldn't solve anything.

To state one of Hitchens points, the cure for poverty is the empowerment of women, to take them off the annual cycles of reproduction as dictated by nature and religion and to give them power over their own bodies, perhaps throw in a few seeds to help and the floor will rise, that this has worked in every society that gave women their rights and power. So equal rights between sexes is definitely an important thing we need on Earth, the first world countries are a perfect example as sure the gender equality isn't perfect yet, but females have enough power that the issues that do still exist are petty in comparison to the issues of other lands and the consequences far less economically impacting.

When it does come to the first world though, there are some weird things still existing around gender equality. Taking videos Jim Sterling made for example about gender equality in video games and there is some quite unsettling and creepy shit with female protagonists being culled and females being involved in making games somehow being seen as offensive to lots of people (mighty number 9's shitstorm etc.) not to mention the way Jim Sterling got mentioned in lists of people to not listen to etc. by bigots for defending females in the media who were subject to some bullshit due to the fact they were female as apparently deciding not to be a dick means you are somehow an enemy of the media? There is a lot of bullshit that still needs to be addressed....but as I said above, this stuff is petty in comparison to the shit females in other countries have to deal with who are still seen as cattle. They are the ones we need to help get closer to equality.

If you were to gas all of the Tumblrinas who fake mental illness for attention, and the few real man-haters among them, it would be fine. As always, it's the truly hateful people who are the problem.

Bitches who want a position of power who will never get it. Because men rule the world and they're mad.

There are two kinds of people, feminists and misogynists. According to some people's definitions, anyway.

ladies should make as much money as men, and doctors should make as much money as rappers

Its ok if you're not like the people that force it relentlessly like Anita Sarkessian or the types that chose to be feminist for ignorant reasons so they can bash the opposite sex everyday on their Tumblr profile. Basically be the feminist you should be, equality and not one-sided.

Feminism is fine, whatever. Prefer egalitarian but I mean, that's what the cause originally strived for in the first place, so yeah. I approve.

Feminazis are not fine. I draw a line at this "men are evil" horse shit and the morons that follow Anita Sarkeesian (who are the same kinds of people that think video games cause school shootings.)

At 7/12/15 05:29 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: OH GOOD LIKE WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS KIND OF TOPIC BEFORE

Lemme get you an oxygen tank Gary.

Feminism as taking steps to get some gender equality is fine.

I support strong dominant women and hope they will dominate me. Thats my opinion.

In my experience there have been feminists who are just evil..
But Ive always supported feminism. I just do.

BTW anyone seen "feminist porn"? i just like Chelsea Poe. she does those. Shes also worked with Bailey Jay.

Dey be aight.

It's alright, I guess.

When they don't take it to extremes, at least.

You can never tell who the real extremists are.

A combination of the GIFT, Poe's Law and Lewis' Law at work here.

The Sarkeesian Effect.

just turns men against men that's all

As a heterosexual white male I am never allowed to have an opinion about anything.... ever.

There's probably about 5% who have legitimate causes and 95% feminazi extremists.

There's a right and a wrong way to do feminism, and unfortunately the vast majority or at least the vast vocal majority is definitely going about everything in the exact wrong way.

Plus, I agree one shouldn't put the rights of either gender ahead of the rights of the other. Whereas even the name feminism implies a pro-female bias, rather than an equality objective. And the feminazi extremists prove they don't desire equality but desire supremacy, special treatment, and purely sexist double-standards.

The problem is majority of feminism is simply sexism renamed.

Newgrounds,

I don't think those evil feminists are out to get you and deprive you of everything you deserve, simply because most of you are men. If those people are out there, then I think most people are sensible enough to know who is and is not worth listening to.

Feminism was one of the great triumphs of the twentieth century, even if it existed in some form before then. It transformed history, psychology, sociology, the arts, and so much more forever in extraordinary ways. If you're tired of sloppy Internet soapboxers, maybe take some time to read 'The Yellow Wallpaper' or watch Jeanne Dielman instead.

At 7/12/15 01:09 PM, Chdonga wrote: there was a girl like that in my art class last semester. She always made a toothy scowl whenever a male tried to talk to her. I thought she was going to stab me after one time when we were both headed toward class, and she turned angrily toward me and ran off.

I thought feminists had an obsession with blacks.

See this tough topic, to argue against modern feminism you are branded misogynist, to side with feminism you get called a man hater. Some feminists accept things such as pornography, violence in the media etc, while others have a Mary Whitehouse complex such as Anita Sarkeesian. Some jump the gun and point fingers at people due to the colour of their skin or gender, some even try to use baseless facts to back their opinions and ignore real world oppression in other countries such as those in the middle east. But more often or not, modern feminism needs to be angry at the tiniest of things so that it stays some how relevant or be jealous of other people (including women's) accomplishments.

Feminism is a mess, a big fat hypocritical mess, those who try to radicalise it are no different from the "oppressors" they so brag on about that don't exist. Of course there's sexists in the world, but that is a small fraction compared to the majority of people in the western world. If feminism is supposed to be for equality then they need to see the bigger picture, as impossible a feat as that sounds there are much more worse things than pixels on a screen or playboy bunnies. They should help those truly in need, respect their fellow humans not degrade them and make the world a more positive place to live.

But guess only time will tell.

Oh god don't get me started...

Alright, I'm perfectly okay with gender equality, nothing wrong with that. But when it turns into a man-hating thing, I will lose my fucking mind. That being said, there is still a good portion of feminism that doesn't man-hate, but because of all of the feminazis, this small group cannot be seen by most people.

I used to watch YouTube videos about people arguing against feminism, the main guy being 'TL;DR' (Or Teal Dear, whatever way you want to put it), but when I realized they were actually attacking feminists, I found myself trusting them less and less. Now I don't watch them as frequently, and when I do I tend to keep an open mind, but I still don't trust any of them because they all say that they can debunk arguments with 5-minutes of Google Searching. The problem with that is that it implies they are only looking towards 1 source of information to prove their points, but what if that source is incorrect or false? This is the biggest problem I have with them, they don't do enough research and they don't try to see both sides of the argument.

So now, I honestly don't know what to think of feminism, do I trust it? Do I hate it? I don't know. I like gender equality, but it seems like people are trying to argue for 1 gender to be superior; the feminazis are trying to make women superior, and the people arguing against feminism seem to be trying to make men superior.

TL;DR: I am not sure where I stand on the subject, but it does seem like people are trying to make 1 gender superior to the other.

I think it's stupid...

Not the part of having equality among genders, but the fact about it being an issue at all and the big shitstorm that has spawned from it. Women should be able to earn as much money and make a living for themselves and so should men, no gender should be seen as inferior, just different.

I just can't see why this should be such as big of a problem as people are making it out to be in the first place. I've seen people getting mad, hell that's understatement, people have made articles about fucking "Final fantasy 15" only having a male cast as the leading roles. It's fucking "Final fantasy", a video game, and people still manage to pull extremist feminazi crap out of their asses and use it as a way to critisize peoples (Hajime Tabata and everyone else working on it) art/creations. Like, holy, nipple-twisting titty fuck. That's where I have no tolerance for it anymore.

In contrast, look at how people recieve a game like say "Shantae and the pirates curse", the characters with the most prominence are all female, and everybody loves that game (or at least you don't see people making articles about how there needs to be men that kick ass or some bullshit). Another example would be the show "My little pony" from my understanding the main cast is made up of 6 females and one male dragon that's pretty much useless (I haven't watched so I'm a bit unsure of the dragons exact relevance to the story as a whole). My point is that it's fine.

It's fine that some games, shows or books have an only female cast of main characters or only male cast of main characters. If the protagonist is male or female, why should it matter as long as it tells the story that the artist wants to convey. I find it worse when they add a character (whether it be male or female) simply to please a demographic rather than to make it benefit the overall story.

That said, guys do also make complains about stupid misogynistic shit, take the new "Mad max" movie as an example, a lot of people were upset about having furiosa being a strong role model for women, in a "Manly movie". So it does ultimately go both ways, kinda like Megan Fox. But it doesn't change the fact that I do find complaining over having specific genders in a story to be ardous and downright annoying.

I could go on forever about this topic, and there really is no need to, because it shouldn't be such a big deal to begin with. This rant has been more specifically aimed towards feminist extremists reacting to media. I don't know if that's what you were loonking for, however that was one of the first things that came to mind for me anyway, most conducive due to the fact that it's annoying when people get harshly critisized for such trivial shit. The ideal of equallity amoung both genders is great and should be strived towards of course, sadly it just so happens to quickly get out of hand in the case of feminism. At least from my experiences with it.

My opinion on feminism is too sophisticated for your eyes, dirty plebs

Third wave feminism is cancer.

At 7/13/15 07:10 AM, thespazicat wrote: Feminism is a mess, a big fat hypocritical mess, those who try to radicalise it are no different from the "oppressors" they so brag on about that don't exist. Of course there's sexists in the world, but that is a small fraction compared to the majority of people in the western world. If feminism is supposed to be for equality then they need to see the bigger picture, as impossible a feat as that sounds there are much more worse things than pixels on a screen or playboy bunnies. They should help those truly in need, respect their fellow humans not degrade them and make the world a more positive place to live.

I think this is what the (UN-backed) World Conferences on Women have been doing since 1975. Having it recognised that feminism is a part of international culture has done good in places where it has mattered most.