New music theory Idea

[koopahermit]

I have been thinking, what if there was a metal band that played in irrational time signatures? I mean we've all seen stuff like 4/4 time and 6/8 time. And some djent bands have experimented with 7/4 and 52/16 time, but these have always been rational fractions. What if a band out there started doing crazy shit like √19/8 time? That would be so br00t4l. And why even stop at that? Not only would it be br00t4l for a band to have an irrational amount of beats in a measure, but let's also stray away from the standard quarter, eighth, and sixteenth notes. A time signature like √17/5 would be even MORE djent! Discuss.

I have been listening to too much Animals as Leaders

[Bit]

At 6/6/15 12:45 AM, yurgenburgen wrote: what if music was upside down

Then we would need to stand on our heads to hear it.

[someaveragechap]

At 6/6/15 12:47 AM, Bit wrote:

At 6/6/15 12:45 AM, yurgenburgen wrote: what if music was upside down

Then we would need to stand on our heads to hear it.

Anything that makes moshing more uncomfortable I'm game for.

[ChiralAnomaly]

But if a measure has an irrational number of beats, how do you denote it on a score?
There is no notation for a note that lasts for the square root of 17 beats.

If I want to make my music difficult to play, I would use 2/2 with a pretissimo mark.

[ThePulp]

Man that would be hard to play.

[koopahermit]

At 6/6/15 01:15 AM, Sekhem wrote:

At 6/6/15 01:01 AM, Sobolev wrote: But if a measure has an irrational number of beats, how do you denote it on a score?

check out some of ferneyhough's scores

it's not really that interesting though and it all sounds like garbage

not surprising that djent metal bands are in a similar race to the bottom

Race to the bottom? Do you know how much money companies like Ibanez and Jackson are making off of selling 8-string guitars to obsessive djent kids?

[MechanicalFox]

Animals first record really superseded all that, unfortunately now they're just like every other djent band. Personally I usually use off time signatures when I write music because that's what I hear in my head, I just go with what I hear. I'm not trying to be brutal, but I can't speak for the other musicians.

You might want to check out UNEVEN STRUCTURE if you haven't already. They have a really atmospheric sound and is much different from every other djent band. It's pretty much the only band I even listen too anymore.

[koopahermit]

At 6/6/15 01:23 AM, MechanicalFox wrote: check out UNEVEN STRUCTURE if you haven't already. They have a really atmospheric sound and is much different from every other djent band. It's pretty much the only band I even listen too anymore.

Lel, Uneven Structure ain't djent. They're thall.

[Gremlin]

What the hell is this, I'm so confused and it's so early too

[NeonSpider]

I don't know but I'm interested. So basically bands that use greater-than-6-string guitars?
Couldn't you get the same effect with more guitarists, all with 6-string guitars, although some of them tuned differently, though?

Also I seem to have this idea in the back of my head that you could make some awesome music with organized chaos, or chaotic order? And yes I realize this probably doesn't make any sense to anyone else.

Think about it though -- pure chaos and you just have noise -- static precisely.
Pure order and you have some boring progression.
Mix and mesh the two in the right amounts ... what happens then?

I'm onto something, yeah?

[ThePulp]

At 6/6/15 05:14 AM, Vixuzar wrote: I've no idea what you're talking about OP.

+1 posting is the future.

Don't you forget it.