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Jeff Weise @Regret 10th anniversary

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Response to Jeff Weise @Regret 10th anniversary 2015-05-10 02:00:04


violent flashes should be blammed

Response to Jeff Weise @Regret 10th anniversary 2015-05-10 02:37:44


At 5/10/15 01:55 AM, Monster-64 wrote:
At 5/10/15 01:44 AM, toxicdevil93 wrote:
Both are dipshits, to bluntly put it. I don't care if they had a shitty life prior to their massacres.

You clearly don't have a clue on what happened to Livecorpse.


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Response to Jeff Weise @Regret 10th anniversary 2015-05-12 15:05:32


At 5/9/15 11:25 PM, DJ-Ri wrote:
At 5/9/15 10:52 PM, Vixuzar wrote:
At 2/19/15 10:35 AM, SocialistClock wrote: Wut
I was just about to say that
Long story short, guy had a really fucked up life, and unfortunately one day he snapped and took it out on a bunch of people, and then himself.

It's pretty sad. I'm not defending the guy for what he did, but I can't help but think he could still be alive today and been a better person, if it hadn't been for the circumstances he grew up in, and the poor choices that he made. Either way, I don't think it excuses his actions.

What happened with Livecorpse was also pretty sad. I think incidents like these serve as a grim reminder of just how fragile the human mind can really be. All of us could stand to be a little more mindful about how we interact with others, and try to be supportive of those who are going through tough times instead of laughing at them or putting them down. Perhaps that way, we can prevent incidents like these from happening in the future.

Thanks for a decent nonbiased post that actually contributed to the thread bro.
Like I usually say, for this specific case (Red Lake) it's hard not to feel incredibly sorry for the bloke. Given his life circumstances, very few would've overcome those challenges and horrible experiences to become a normal person.

If I had a decent family, great genetics and didnt live in a desert shithole state, I would've had a future and a positive outlook on life too. Even small changes like a different location around here would've had massive effects on my psyche.

When that guy had his dad kill himself, a drunk abusive shithead for a mom (Who became disabled for life due to a car crash) and was forced to move to a indian reservation you cant blame him for being violent and suicidal.

Like I said, I live near the largest native rez in the country. Even 20 miles from the border in a small quiet town, there's still lots of corruption, suicidal people (a 13 year old boy killed himself a while ago) and no real jobs. We're mostly white, if that says anything. Even generic american whites are living in 3rd world conditions out here.

I'm not going to troll or be evil. Mass murder is inexcusable and absolutely never commendable.

American and most western civilization isnt even really civil. You're on your own out here. Few friends will back you up, most people's families are close-minded and horrible, and we're no longer the great country we say we are, we're 2nd-class compared to much of western europe. Unless you're making 250,000$ / yr as a family unit, you are no longer the fabled middle class of the 20th century.

Lots of people say they help the depressed /suicidal, but very few seek to help them. Hell, depression isnt constant sadness, at least once you hit adulthood. If weise stayed alive another 5 years before commiting suicide he would've gone absolutely insane. Once you're done with school, life goes from easy mode to insane mode.

At 5/10/15 01:04 AM, Monster-64 wrote: To save an entire rant, he's a mindless killer, and a coward.

Not mindless. Very intelligent for a 15/16 yr old. Coward? Sure, if you're gunning down unarmed teens / kids, you arent exactly rambo.

At 5/10/15 01:44 AM, toxicdevil93 wrote:
At 5/9/15 10:44 PM, dem0lecule wrote: LiveCorpse was also a great animator. I sometime wonder what the fuck went through these guys' mind. Life sucks, I get it, but it didn't mean you had your excuse to do terrible shit.
This place is going to pummel your ass to the ground for comparing this dipshit to Livecorpse.

Most NGers nowadays werent around for these 2 events from over a decade ago.

At 5/10/15 01:55 AM, Monster-64 wrote:
At 5/10/15 01:44 AM, toxicdevil93 wrote:
At 5/9/15 10:44 PM, dem0lecule wrote: LiveCorpse was also a great animator. I sometime wonder what the fuck went through these guys' mind. Life sucks, I get it, but it didn't mean you had your excuse to do terrible shit.
This place is going to pummel your ass to the ground for comparing this dipshit to Livecorpse.
Both are dipshits, to bluntly put it. I don't care if they had a shitty life prior to their massacres.

No, both were triple-digit IQ blokes. Weise was as if possessed by demons. LiveCorpse got drunk and made a tragic accident and killed himself to avoid the consequences of accidentally shooting a cop while drunk, if I remember?

At 5/10/15 02:00 AM, Finnyprik wrote: violent flashes should be blammed

No, 99% of the flashes submitted to NG so far this decade should be.
Violent media usually prevents real life violence and I can easily be generic and pull this little chart out to prove it. (check the attached image)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/8676954/Doom-creator-John-Carmack-violent-video-games-reduce-real-world-aggression.html

Like I said earlier, a newly 13 yr old kid from my town downright killed himself. He had a upper-middle class family (200,000 / yr ) .. which confuses me as to why they would move to this ugly, redneck rundown desert shithole of a town.. Anyways, he fucking kills himself from all the bullshit from the town.

I usually take daily walks, ever since 2014 when I stopped being as much as a shut-in. I casually talk to a few people here and there. I remember having a few lengthy conversations with folks, and when it was relevant to the subject being discussed, I probably brought up the story of the kid a few times.

You know what they all said about that kid? He was a sinner and deserved it. Those arent my words, they're the words of the redneck shitheads here. They're all mormon psychopaths addicted to tobacco and meth driving shitty pickup trucks from the 70s.

You know the movie naoplean dynamtie? Imagine that but with 50x more hostility in the rednecks, and all the scenery replaced by ugly light-tan wasteland covered with weeds everywhere.

My point? you cant blame that kid for killing himself. I'm not supporting his decision, because most suicidal people are usually good people at heart. Most victims of suicide ARE NOT REMEMBERED. I've spoken to the parents of this child and inspired them to do what the parents of Ryan Halligan did and perhaps make a memorial site and do public speaking on behalf of the bloke.

Now with that being said, the bloke still had great parents and a nice house, but it's not like that would really counter the fact that the people we're surrounded with are thrice as scary as southerners.

Weise lived far away from a lot of american civilization in a fucking rez. You all know his life story by now so it should be of no surprise why he was so dark and disturbed.

To wrap this tl;dr post up.. The reason why most modern mass murderers exist is because they know for a fact that suicide alone would just leave them forgotten forever. But if they pull the trigger and take out some random people with them, the media will make them the talk of (not only the town) but the nation and perhaps even the world.

Red Lake was on-par with columbine, and yet only got 1% as much attention. You know why? Because they were all native americans- minorities. Even still, a lot of people still faintly remember it 10 years later. Imagine if weise never went postal. Maybe a dozen would've known about it enough to turn a glance his way for a moment, maybe his grandpa would care.

It's the killer's fault for the tragedy, but society's fault for making the killers.

As for anyone thinking violent video games cause real life violence..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU

Jeff Weise @Regret 10th anniversary


At 3/7/15 05:46 PM, JeffWeise wrote:
At 3/6/15 05:27 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: status update: he's still dead

--supergandhi64
you're dead :(

"YOU'RE DEAD
YOUR FRIENDS ARE DEAD
YOUR FAMILY'S DEAD
YOUR FUCKING PETS ARE BEING SKINNED ALIVE
YOUR MOM'S A FUCKING WHORE
YOU SUCK AT LIFE
THE WHOLE WORLD HATES YOU
YOU'RE GOING TO HELL
LIVE WITH IT.

GAME OVER"

~Angry Video Game Nerd

As for the subject of this thread, I can't believe it was ten years ago...

*googles it*

...yep, a whole decade indeed...


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