At 11/18/12 08:14 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 11/18/12 08:10 PM, Otto wrote:
Don't forget the things unions have done: the weekend, the minimum wage, the rights to so many things that make your life tolerable.
Things that literally happened 100 years ago do not override the negatives of today, or else we would view republicans as good for freeing the slaves and giving people civil rights.
Unions aren't just riding on things they did in the past, they still do things now. They do a few minor different things in Britain but in America I've discovered that unions run the biggest training programs outside of the military, which are often linked with companies, creating many many subsequent sought after apprenticeships.
"Did you know that union letter carriers save lives all the time by alerting officials when an elderly person hasn't collected her mail from the mailbox?"
Thing is though if you take them away now then there really is no rape-ex device to stop our workers rights being taken away. They'll lube us up and fuck us boy, don't you see.
More close to home, my dad who works with a recruitment agency (work is very very non-existent where I live, rural England), has finally been given equal pay to people who do the same job as him, because of the recruitment agency union. Before that, he could be given the frankly inadequate minimum wage forever, for doing the same job as people getting paid more, simply because he had a non-secure job.
Yeah they've got their bad times; I fucking hate when the post goes on strike, but when they do, I understand that in the grand scheme of things I'm glad to have a postal service run by people who believe they are entitled because they work, not just because they are.