At 4/16/12 04:31 PM, Ilssm wrote:

The Catillac Cats could have been considered a gang- they lived inn a junkyard:

Oh yeah, I remember them. I've seen the porn of it.

If you ever watched the CARTOON it was a cartoon about cats living in a junkyard and trying to be cool. There was a junkyard dog trying to keep the cats in check.

You've sen the porn of it- what is your point? People will try to porn out of anything- there's HONEYMOONERS porn.

At 4/16/12 05:03 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 04:30 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote: Go read the webcomic Lackadaisy. I'm sure it's a bit darker than what you're going for, but it's a good example of having a comic where the characters are animals without having it seem like a cliche think for little kids.

I've seen that. I don't like it.

Commie.

At 4/16/12 05:10 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:03 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 04:30 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote: Go read the webcomic Lackadaisy. I'm sure it's a bit darker than what you're going for, but it's a good example of having a comic where the characters are animals without having it seem like a cliche think for little kids.

I've seen that. I don't like it.

Commie.

HOW come there are no "black" cats, or "Hispanic" ones or "Asian" ones, or any other cats representing other races and cultures? THAT is what I am doing in MY comic.

Make 2 of the characters gay male lovers. Don't throw in the intimate stuff since it's a kids comic, just touch on the fact that they're in lurrrrrv. I'd read it.

At 4/16/12 05:34 PM, Autri wrote: Make 2 of the characters gay male lovers. Don't throw in the intimate stuff since it's a kids comic, just touch on the fact that they're in lurrrrrv. I'd read it.

NO. NO GAY CATS AND DOGS, AND NO FURRY PIN-UPS.

At 4/16/12 05:18 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:10 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:03 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 04:30 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote: Go read the webcomic Lackadaisy. I'm sure it's a bit darker than what you're going for, but it's a good example of having a comic where the characters are animals without having it seem like a cliche think for little kids.

I've seen that. I don't like it.

Commie.

HOW come there are no "black" cats, or "Hispanic" ones or "Asian" ones, or any other cats representing other races and cultures? THAT is what I am doing in MY comic.

They're cats. They lack human race. What the hell are you talking about? Do you mean like, why haven't they had some cat show up with grills on their teeth and start rapping or what, because there aren't a lot of ways to express human race with animals and not come off as really racist.

And by the way, a few of the characters are European, but in the early 1900's the majority of America was white, specifically the South. The comic is set to be a historically accurate story about prohibition era speakeasies and crime in 1920's St. Louis, but with cats as characters rather than humans because the artist finds them to be more expressive than humans. It's not a happy little "every race come together and hold hands because the world is wonderful" type thing. Kids wouldn't like that anyways, kids around middle school age think everything targeted towards kids is stupid. Not to say Lackadaisy is necessarily for kids, I just mean your idea here doesn't sound like something kids would like too much.

And I guess that answers your first question as to what kids like.

At 4/16/12 05:40 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:18 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:10 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:03 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 04:30 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote: Go read the webcomic Lackadaisy. I'm sure it's a bit darker than what you're going for, but it's a good example of having a comic where the characters are animals without having it seem like a cliche think for little kids.

I've seen that. I don't like it.

Commie.

HOW come there are no "black" cats, or "Hispanic" ones or "Asian" ones, or any other cats representing other races and cultures? THAT is what I am doing in MY comic.

They're cats. They lack human race. What the hell are you talking about? Do you mean like, why haven't they had some cat show up with grills on their teeth and start rapping or what, because there aren't a lot of ways to express human race with animals and not come off as really racist.

NO- now you are being stupid. You can use CAT BREEDS to represent races and cultures of people. That is what I am doing.

When you think of blacks you ONLY think of NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES propagated by rap and hip-hop videos, and the media? You are a RACIST.

At 4/16/12 05:47 PM, ngman7 wrote:

NO- now you are being stupid. You can use CAT BREEDS to represent races and cultures of people. That is what I am doing.

When you think of blacks you ONLY think of NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES propagated by rap and hip-hop videos, and the media? You are a RACIST.

Looking at your posts i'm 99% sure you're trolling but i'm equally bored so explain to me what cat you would use to represent a black man. Like, I understand the idea of breeds to represent race but I didn't mention the idea in my last post because there's no breed of cat that I look at and go, "Hey wow, that's like a black person in cat form."

At 4/16/12 05:51 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:47 PM, ngman7 wrote:

NO- now you are being stupid. You can use CAT BREEDS to represent races and cultures of people. That is what I am doing.

When you think of blacks you ONLY think of NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES propagated by rap and hip-hop videos, and the media? You are a RACIST.

Looking at your posts i'm 99% sure you're trolling but i'm equally bored so explain to me what cat you would use to represent a black man

Simple- I would use African cat and dog breeds to represent blacks, European cat and dog breeds to represent whites, Asian cat and dog breeds for Asians, Hispanic cat and dog breeds for Hispanics, etc.

Abyssinians, Somalis and Sokokes for example are African cat breeds.

At 4/16/12 05:57 PM, ngman7 wrote:

Simple- I would use African cat and dog breeds to represent blacks, European cat and dog breeds to represent whites, Asian cat and dog breeds for Asians, Hispanic cat and dog breeds for Hispanics, etc.

Abyssinians, Somalis and Sokokes for example are African cat breeds.

The idea makes sense but it's flawed, because the majority of humans don't know that unless they've specifically researched those cat breeds, and I can guarantee that no kids know the origin of various exotic cats. It's like talking to somebody in a language they don't understand, the basic idea is that you're talking to them and that makes sense, but when you take into consideration that they won't understand unless they've by a slim chance learned your language already, it'll be completely lost on them.

At 4/16/12 06:05 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:57 PM, ngman7 wrote:

Simple- I would use African cat and dog breeds to represent blacks, European cat and dog breeds to represent whites, Asian cat and dog breeds for Asians, Hispanic cat and dog breeds for Hispanics, etc.

Abyssinians, Somalis and Sokokes for example are African cat breeds.

The idea makes sense but it's flawed, because the majority of humans don't know that unless they've specifically researched those cat breeds..

That is one of the things that I have spent time researching- CAT and DOG breeds across the US and in other countries.

Videogames.

At 4/16/12 06:11 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:05 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:57 PM, ngman7 wrote:

Simple- I would use African cat and dog breeds to represent blacks, European cat and dog breeds to represent whites, Asian cat and dog breeds for Asians, Hispanic cat and dog breeds for Hispanics, etc.

Abyssinians, Somalis and Sokokes for example are African cat breeds.

The idea makes sense but it's flawed, because the majority of humans don't know that unless they've specifically researched those cat breeds..

That is one of the things that I have spent time researching- CAT and DOG breeds across the US and in other countries.

My point is that you may know that but your audience wouldn't. Most people can't look at a cat and go "Yep that's a Sokoke, they come from Africa," much less the kids you'd be marketing comics to.

At 4/16/12 06:14 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

My point is that you may know that but your audience wouldn't. Most people can't look at a cat and go "Yep that's a Sokoke, they come from Africa," much less the kids you'd be marketing comics to.

I am also researching slang in the US and in other countries. And info about street gangs in the US and in other countries.

At 4/16/12 10:49 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:

At 4/15/12 12:43 AM, daethdrain wrote: Uuuuuugghhh. You have enough information. Just make the damn comic!

I've never seen anybody procastinate over a comic more than ngman7.

Doing RESEARCH for a comic is not procrastinating.

At 4/16/12 06:17 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:14 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

My point is that you may know that but your audience wouldn't. Most people can't look at a cat and go "Yep that's a Sokoke, they come from Africa," much less the kids you'd be marketing comics to.

I am also researching slang in the US and in other countries. And info about street gangs in the US and in other countries.

Okay you're still ignoring my point, and whenever I ask to see your art you ignore that too. Therefore with my stunning ability to state the obvious I can conclude that if you're being serious about this, your idea is extremely flawed and you know it but you don't want to change anything because you don't want to work. So carry on with your trolling and/or denial, I've got work that I can't procrastinate any longer on.

At 4/16/12 06:25 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:17 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:14 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

My point is that you may know that but your audience wouldn't. Most people can't look at a cat and go "Yep that's a Sokoke, they come from Africa," much less the kids you'd be marketing comics to.

I am also researching slang in the US and in other countries. And info about street gangs in the US and in other countries.

Okay you're still ignoring my point, and whenever I ask to see your art you ignore that too....

I am NOT TROLLING. I have some art work I am going to show in the ART FORUM. You are not the only perosn with things to do.
Right now I have some business to go take care of. Bye for now.

At 4/16/12 06:28 PM, ngman7 wrote: I am NOT TROLLING. I have some art work I am going to show in the ART FORUM. You are not the only perosn with things to do.
Right now I have some business to go take care of. Bye for now.

So, where is it?
Oh, by the way, are you good at drawing?

I suppose kids of today are more into action and entertainment. I don't believe it's "That" different from the 80's and the 90's, but just like you said, it's the advancement in technology. But I wouldn't know much. I was more of a late 90's early 2000's kid.

At 4/16/12 06:28 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:25 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:17 PM, ngman7 wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:14 PM, DirtyMeatball wrote:

My point is that you may know that but your audience wouldn't. Most people can't look at a cat and go "Yep that's a Sokoke, they come from Africa," much less the kids you'd be marketing comics to.

I am also researching slang in the US and in other countries. And info about street gangs in the US and in other countries.

Okay you're still ignoring my point, and whenever I ask to see your art you ignore that too....

I am NOT TROLLING. I have some art work I am going to show in the ART FORUM. You are not the only person with things to do.
Right now I have some business to go take care of. Bye for now.

FIXED. I will come back to this later- I have something more important to do right now.

Just look at the crap on CN (with few exceptions) that plays on Friday at 7.

At 4/16/12 06:43 PM, II2none wrote: Just look at the crap on CN (with few exceptions) that plays on Friday at 7.

Stupid things sell- look at at Annoying Orange.

At 4/16/12 07:29 PM, Ilssm wrote:

At 4/16/12 06:43 PM, II2none wrote: Just look at the crap on CN (with few exceptions) that plays on Friday at 7.

You're... you're not talking about the classic cartoons they started showing again, are you?

If so, I will have to kill you. Nothing personal, just business.

I miss Toon Heads, Tex Avery Show and the OLD Disney.

Don't look for gimmicks or chase fads or consciously try to be hip. Works that do those things might get a greenlight and make some money in the short term, but that's a hollow achievement, and a short-lived one too; years from now, the memory of those works will only live on in the occasional ironic t-shirt.

Instead, just focus on creating characters who are relatable, multi-dimensional, and entertaining on their own merits, and everything else will come from that. Kids are much, much more media-literate now than they were in previous generations, and they can identify and enjoy genuinely good stories, too. If you don't make something that you yourself could enjoy, odds are they won't either.

At 4/16/12 05:34 PM, Autri wrote: Make 2 of the characters gay male lovers. Don't throw in the intimate stuff since it's a kids comic, just touch on the fact that they're in lurrrrrv. I'd read it.

I'm actually kind of doing that in something I'm working on. Well, there's one major gay character at least, but I haven't really put much thought into potential romantic interests or anything yet.

they respond to candy, and violence, trust me.

At 4/16/12 10:07 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:

At 4/16/12 05:34 PM, Autri wrote: Make 2 of the characters gay male lovers. Don't throw in the intimate stuff since it's a kids comic, just touch on the fact that they're in lurrrrrv. I'd read it.

I'm actually kind of doing that in something I'm working on. Well, there's one major gay character at least, but I haven't really put much thought into potential romantic interests or anything yet.

Homosexuality is an ABOMINATION and it is DEMONIC. I am not compromising my beliefs as a CHRISTIAN. I do not care who doesn't like it.I AM NOT PUTTING GAY CHARACTERS IN MY COMICS.

At 4/16/12 10:10 PM, ngman7 wrote: Homosexuality is an ABOMINATION and it is DEMONIC. I am not compromising my beliefs as a CHRISTIAN. I do not care who doesn't like it.I AM NOT PUTTING GAY CHARACTERS IN MY COMICS.

just show us a picture of the comic, maybe that way we get an idea of what youre making.

At 4/16/12 10:10 PM, ngman7 wrote: I AM NOT PUTTING GAY CHARACTERS IN MY COMICS.

Nobody's asking you to, I was talking about my own work. Not everything's about you, man, geez.

Suck my cock.

This is the basic underlying story:

the good guys want to rid their hometown of crime and evil. The villains want to turn their hometown into a safehaven for villains. The heroes go out and fight crime in their hometown and in neighboring towns and across the US and in other nations. The heroes go and make allies along the way. They go and fight other gangs and other baddies.

The villains mirror the heroes and make their own allies along the way.

The main heroes have a technical go-to guy who is a scientific genius and gives them tools and weapons and props to use in their fight against crime and evil. The heroes go and find out what the bad guys are up to and usually get a a 1-up on what they are doing.

The villains try to find out what the heroes are up to.

Later on, the heroes experiment with being superheroes, but that only happens in special circumstances and on special occasions when they can't handle threats in their one normal natural strengths. The villains follow suit and experiment with being supervillains.

How can I make this more interesting?