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Timraband

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much better

You two are with distance the most "rotating" music producers ever.
You make songs that are very bad, but also songs that are very good.
Never seen such a contrast before lol.

This is much better mastered and contains more obvious progression.
Kudo's for this one 0_O.

You might've done something more about the ending though, thats why it is not a 10.

Cuzone responds:

Thank you very much! Too lazy to give this a proper ending though. lol And besides Shooting Zeros (which I'm sure you are referring to when you say we make bad music), what other "very bad" songs have you heard by us?

So, I'm back!

And yeah, the rest of the songs aren't as horrible as Shooting Zeros, but still, as a whole I have a quite a few problems with the music you two compose.

So I guess instead of commenting each song individually, I'll just make use this to comment on the music overall.

First! The volume balance between the instruments in everything I've listened to (maybe the 15 most recent songs and a few from several years back) is much too similar--meaning the drums are about as loud as the bass which is also as loud as the synth which is also as loud as the piano (and you see what I'm getting at). Because of this, everything tends to mush together and nothing stands out. While on this subject, I feel like the overall sound quality of the songs had something missing; they felt "fake" or "plastic," almost. Maybe just some sound editing here to give more depth to the music (as in stronger bass and treble).

Second! It sounded like every instrument was doing it's own thing in some of the more "full" songs, I guess is how I'd put it. There was no structure or support for the "lead," which ought to catch the listener's attention. Pretty much every good song works this way. Other instruments will hang back in what they play and how they play, whether it be in pop (for vocals), metal (for guitar), or electronica (either the rhythm or lead synth). In your guys' case, even if each of those solo-esque parts were catchy, there would be no way to hear it because it would get lost in the cacophony.

Third! Now it may be a contributing factor of the aforementioned issues, but a lot of your melody progressions sounded very forced. Like you felt "oh, I think we've been playing this melody too long, we should switch to a new one in an attempt to keep it fresh," without taking into account how they should transition into one another. For example, if you don't intend to change the mood of the piece (think from verse to chorus), then don't change too much in the piece and milk it for what it's worth. Now, that isn't to say you should keep to one feel because then the song gets repetitive (i.e. Shooting Zeros), but just stick to contemporary song structure if you intend to use contemporary instruments. Make the sections distinct in sound! Start on different chords! Use different modes!

I think that's everything I wanted to cover. Hope that wasn't too messy to read.

Cheers!~

Cuzone responds:

As before, this answer is basically two answers in one. Nope, i'm not schizophrenic.

~ Timraband:
Wait, I regret what I said. Cuzone told me the review wasn't rude so I read all of it. Thanks! It was quite polite, even though not always correct, so thank you! I'm glad you took your time to listen to our music and actually give advice. Now please comment again talking about what you did like about the music.

PS: If your ears can't handle polyphony, that's your problem. Don't try to encourage people to write monophony.

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~ Cuzone:
First of all, thanks for your review, basically reviewing our whole body of work. While I do appreciate your initiative, I find your criticism a little hard to follow.
First, because you only talk about what you don't like our body of work. Disliking 15+ songs by someone, considering that some songs are appreciated by the community, seems to me like a matter of personal taste over anything else.
Second, you are talking about two different musicians here, I doubt both of us do the same mistakes.

Anyway, since you were so kind to write so much, I'll do the same. But i'll only talk about my songs.

First! I disagree about the volume part, I don't see how you can't notice the volume difference on songs like Sin-Tea or Bitting Booty, Forest Ambient or Carolina and the Savage.
About the Plastic-Feeling, I agree that some of my sounds are not very well mixed, but I really can't see this criticism fitting into Timraband Songs.

Second! I don't see this as a problem, actually. While I do have some songs with focus on leads (The Sun Will Come, End of the Day, Fanfare), I agree that lots of my songs have "shared-focus", and that not everything is 'helping the lead', but lots of my songs don't really have leads. So I see this more as a question of personal opinion.

Third! Actually, I agree with this criticism for my songs, lots of my songs change out-of-nowhere, and this is something that I've been working on, lately.
Now, on the other hand, I don't see how this applies to Timraband's songs.

Anyway, thanks for your criticisms and opinions.

anger isn't the emotion i felt.

I really liked the parts where you had the harmonizing keys going on in the background, I didn't really like the change up though.

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