00:00
00:00
Newgrounds Background Image Theme

dopesik just joined the crew!

We need you on the team, too.

Support Newgrounds and get tons of perks for just $2.99!

Create a Free Account and then..

Become a Supporter!

Machiavellian Suns

Share Collapse

Author Comments

Diplomacy in space. Who can you trust? Encounter alien races. Create alliances. Establish trade. Invade your enemies. Support your allies or will you betray them?

Machiavellian Suns is a strategy game that is all about diplomacy. In space! Will you send in your ships to support your allies in their time of need? Or will you betray your friends and invade their planets? In this turn-based game, you can create grand alliances, establish trade, explore the universe, and encounter new alien races. Who can you trust? Who is lying? And who will conquer the galaxy in the end?

Hi folks. This is my second game on Newgrounds. If you see any bugs, please let me know and I will fix them. Thanks for playing Machiavellian Suns!

Log in / sign up to vote & review!

I love it. Needs a little refinement, but it's like minimalist Star Empires.

Fun. Some but not all of the levels are challenging, good music, pretty easy to learn to play, lots of factions with different personalities.

A lot of improvements are probably possible, but the thing I think I'd most like to see is a less "expendable" attitude toward allies. At the end of nearly every mission you have to turn against any allies you have, so you never really feel like you have strong, long-term partnerships. Still, very good game.

NOOOOOOOOOO I always would playh this when i was bored, RIP Machiavellian Suns, a simple yet awesome game :(

So why do my planets get destroyed almost every time i win a defense?! Not to mention the random 8-31 losses that occur way to often to be acceptable.
This game is absolute shit, it feels like the dev is flipping you off saying: "You thought that you would win because you strategy is better than the AI's?"
That's several hours I'll never see again.

Hahaha, bravo! Bravo! A splendid mixture of military strategy and political subterfuge. I love it! If only there were more options!

Also, I gave up on Hardcore mode of the Galactic Conquest simply because it's too difficult having to keep a suicidal faction alive. It's impossible to protect, say, lions, when they continue attacking you and draining your resources while they themselves are being attacked on all corners and refuse assistance, and you cannot lose planets fast enough to be liked by them. It is impossible to protect deer when you have to many an enemy of everyone else early on so as not to piss them off and have them fight against you later.

There are a lot of 'feedback loop' type alliances in the game, wherein one side will always be friendly with another, such as pigs and vultures for obvious reasons, and when it gets lower and lower and you have foes attacking you from multiple ends, it is impossible to win as you have to waste turns trying to appeal to people and set up alliances without being able to build up your ships and, yet again, having those alliances be broken because the alliance feedback causes them to betray you every time. Even the damn deer don't seem to have an issue with it.

This would be solved by implementing a better system of alliance relations. I.E; if someone is equally liked as another, it shouldn't just be the first guy who attacks that the allied forces supports. If two forces are at war, and are equally liked by a third faction, it would make more sense for the force to assist both sides in the defense of their respective planets and neither in the attack. Likewise, it shouldn't end an alliance when you do not assist in an attack, just when you do not assist in their defense. Finally, trade should not be broken by any condition an alliance is (even the A.I seems to agree, as it is always eager to set up trade a stark few turns after breaking it) other than attacking a planet outright. It would also be neat if there was a type of point scale for loyalty. It doesn't make sense that a planet WOULDN'T like you less if you attacked them head on, but of course all their value systems still remain. Since there is already a scale of how much they like or dislike someone, having more things effect it should be no problem, such as: Attacking Wolves while Deer dislikes them would make Deer like you slightly more, 1+ point, regardless of everything else. Attacking someone Deer likes would make them dislike you, -1 point, regardless of anything else. Being friendly and assisting them with attacks/defense could be +2 points each, while not assisting them could be -1, and appealing to their 'likes', such as Vultures enjoying military strength or Pig's planet ownership would give them a +3, while not appealing to it would give them a -3. Hell, you could even have the score system set up so that liked planets get alliances/trade, neutral planets get trade, and disliked planets get neither; this would greatly add to the political nuance, especially if you wanted to add more subtle/subterfuge-esque actions to defeat someone rather than raw military might.

While this is awfully annoying, it's still such a good game that I'm willing to overlook it.

Credits & Info

Views
46,606
Faves:
128
Votes
376
Score
3.52 / 5.00

Uploaded
Sep 25, 2015
5:01 PM EDT