At 6/1/08 06:57 PM, MickTheChampion wrote:
Yeah, teaching the poor how to read and providing them with health care is really the stuff of Hell.
Gotcha. If I ever go on a murderous rampage...I'll just use my charity work with the blind as a defense.
Eye roll.
Erm... No. It's just that the way you display your sheer contempt for traditional socialist working class values makes you stink of the extreme right.
Wow, this is so stupid I don't know where to begin.
1. Contempt for a murderer doesn't reflect my position on socialism.
2. Fascists were liberals. And socialists. So calling me a fascist undermines your whole point.
3. I DON'T like socialism because it has left over 100 million dead.
4. You dont get 1-3 so I'm guessing you're not very bright.
The man has a point, the revolution is war - plain and simple. You're killing off the state apparatus.
These were prisoners.
You're a fascist.
Although you could do with reading the definition of a fascist.
Don't lecture me fool. You're not in my league.
Are YOU that bloody stupid that you think fascism simply equates to the killing of innocents? Not only is that stupid, it's fucking PUERILE.
You're stupid enough to assume that anyone who disagrees with you on deifying a monster is a fascist. Don't even try to lecture me simpleton.
Well considering that you haven't shown me a single famous picture there, I wouldn't say you have to keep going. Do you mind starting though?
I mentioned 8. If you're too lazy to look them up that's on you.
All of them are clearly more famous.
It's been going strong since 1967 and it'll irk you til your grave.
Uh, no. The Che is God fad started in 2004 with the movie Motorcycle Diaries. Before that, Che was taught to be a bit player (but a monster) in teh Latin Communist revolutions.
You can base societal observations on yourself, everybody knew who Che was before that film.
The simple truth is that even Wikipedia recognizes that Che was a nobody til the late 90s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara _in_popular_culture
The only major thing that they link to Guevarra before 200 was Evita (linking Che the character erroniously to Che Guevara). The Che chic nonsense started in the mid 2000s and has nothing to do with who the man was.
I've read plenty about Che, although not as much as I'd like. You really must be fucking slow if you only started noticing Che as an icon in 2004, either that or you live in some backwoods that doesn't apply to modern society. Neither would surprise me, to be frank.
I knew that Che was a murdering nobody from grade school. He was a bit player in murderous coups across the Latin American landscape.
That I point out that no one gave a shit about him til recently means nothing. Ask anyone older than twenty who Guevara was. If they know the name, they'll call him a murderer. His shirts offend any decent person who sees them. They're little different than seeing a Hitler shirt.
There's a difference between killing in a war and simple murder, dunce.
No there's not. If you exectue unarmed people...it's murder. Period.
Then you are a deluded, scary, pathetic man.
Shrug. That'd mean more if you didn't ideolize an executioner.
Okay, source time again. Let's see how many women and children Che Guevara ordered the execution of. Show me. If you don't mind, can you keep your sources away from the extreme right?
Your standards don't apply. Mine do:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/05/the -victims-of-che-guevara/
Oooooh. Damn, those fact things aren't comfortable. DAMN.
You piss off. The topic started asked what we think about Che and I praise him. I stick by that praise. He fought to liberate the downtrodden of this planet and you can all me names all you like but it simply won't change history.
Cause you're a fucking moron.
He killed unarmed prisoners. And he helped create the beauty that is Cuba's paradise.
I'll call you names because you deserved to be called names.
You deride Che for execution prisoners of war and then tell me that the planet would be better off from me dying. Based on a single forum argument. Umm, I think you should maybe also check up the dictionary on mental illness. Someone who disagrees with you on a forum is not a grounds for ethnic cleansing, fascist.
I didn't argue for ethnic clensing. And I'd be willing to bet good money that you're some loser white kid who couldn't tell your ass from a hole in the ground if I gave you directions. (Mick helps btw)
But hell, let's claim that you're the world's ONLY jewish muslim russian austrailian antartica visiting half black Che supporter...I still haven't argued that someone should kill you. Only that we'll be better off when your worthless ass dies.
I detest Hitler and in no way am I in favour of genocide, you're being ridiculous on that point.
No I'm not. Youre being a worthless shitbag in supporting a murderer that many don't know anything about, and crying about a murderer we all know about. You're not only garbage. Youre a coward too.
I don't know much about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad but I know enough to tell you that to lump me with extremist Islam and holocaust deniers simply for being a socialist makes you sound like a paranoid right-wing lunatic.
I didn't lump you with Mahmoud and Hitler for being a socialist imbecile. I lumped you with their supporters for downplaying the evils of the man you support.
You're not very bright are you?
Although you're right, I did admire Yasser Arafat.
Of course you do.
