At 5/25/08 02:57 AM, DDRSW4 wrote:
I don't think the current system is feasible at all
How can it not be feasible when it's been in usage for years...? Perhaps what you meant is that out of all the possibilities, you don't consider it to be the best option?
If you were to take away the point system or overhaul it to make it less obvious, then there wouldn't be as big as an incentive for users to just vote 5 for all flashes regardless of quality.
There wouldn't be as big an incentive for people to vote AT ALL, dude. The fact remains that many people on the site vote for points instead of quality, but that problem is actually being addressed as best it can be. Wade has set up a Portal Watch team (which, incidentally, I'm a part of) consisting of users who are active in the portal, who can report rule-breaking or spam submissions to him via AIM.
The problem is that what you think is crap might give some other users a laugh. You can say that something doesn't deserve to be on NG until you're blue in the face, but if it passed judgment, then that's that, unless an admin believes it to be rule-breaking. Just because something is crap, it doesn't mean it's against the rules.
General submission quality has gone down over the years, yes, but that's just something you have to deal with and move on from. There's still a lot of great submissions in the top 50, weekly winners, daily winners, etc., so just focus on them.
Another problem that I see but cannot confirm is that, apparently, once your submission passes the Portal it is impossible for it to be blammed without administrator intervention.
Problem there is mass-voting. People have mass voted submissions through judgment, and if there was a score threshold to blam post-judgment submissions, you can bet your ass that a lot of submissions would be downvoted to get them off the site, even if they genuinely deserve to be here.
One more problem that I see is that with the advent of "Web 2.0," newcomers need to understand this place is not YouTube and not a file hosting site. I've seen dozens and dozens of flashes in recent months that are either poorly put together PowerPoint school projects or video clips converted into flash format. Off topic, but I think it needed to be said.