I suppose I have some explaining to do. This April Fools joke was a last minute thing and although I thought it might have went too far, I wanted to go ahead with this and hope anyone with bad voting habits would wake up and clean their act. Those who have admitted to have been voting poorly, I want to say thanks. You may have had some rough edges but I'm glad you were honest and hopefully you're still going to make real attempts at getting any crap submissions off the portal.
My thoughts on the "leaving post" for the B/P update remain intact besides for a few things. Although I can't say who are the ones who are voting poorly except for those who are like "Yeah I don't bother watching the flashes and just vote by whether it'll pass or not." that I've witnessed, there are some users with suspiciously bad blam to save ratio. Seeing someone with 15,000 saves and only a mere 500 blams does raise some questions but I can't be 100% sure if they ARE those who have been voting 5 on blatantly crap submissions that have managed to pass.
To be honest, I have had times where I felt like giving up the B/P list for good because of the utter shit flashes that get through the portal but on the other hand I don't feel like taking away something that the good users deserve to see, even if the cowardly bad users may see the list regularly and rack up as much points as they can without considering the standards of the site. By knowing viewers here like to hear my thoughts on things, that's a good enough reason to keep going.
I'd only ever give up the list if real life circumstances aren't in good standing, the admins request it to stop or I lose interest in the site and considering how I've been since mid-2009 with genre/icon modding, BBS modding and attending NG meet ups, I don't see myself losing interest any time soon. After all, I've already been on this site much longer than I originally expected.
One last thing, I was actually surprised at the responses I read. When I went and said I was pulling the plug from the B/P updates, I expected a heat rash of comments telling me to not give up at all. Last time I tried changing something or even pass the list to someone else, you all ganged up against me so I was rather surprised this time. The responses were so overwhelming that I was almost tempted to make the retirement real rather than an April Fools joke. I'll keep it up for the time being. The cowardly bad voters may not show their faces at all but if they are out there and continue to hide away, I'm sure their luck won't last forever.
At least things are back to normal now.
At 3/27/11 04:04 PM, byteslinger wrote:
Just think - if only the top-30 active users just VOTED FAIRLY, it would be enough to keep some balance in the Portal.
Too bad around half of them are either inactive or actually the ones who I know that don't bother watching the latest entries.
At 3/27/11 04:16 PM, Gagsy wrote:
I shall blam twice as hard, just for you Bahamut.
You still doing it for me? <3
At 3/27/11 04:28 PM, Odyssic wrote:
At 3/27/11 04:22 PM, Coop wrote:
Who's with us?I think you know I'm going for 10,000 Blams, it has been pretty slow since getting 25,000 Saves.
And to think I'd like to get Toohot100 to 30k blams eventually. It's taking forever for that alt just to get to the next B/P rank. I may as well TRY to aim to 10k and leave it at that but even 10k is a lot.
At 3/27/11 04:58 PM, WilhelmTheVampire wrote:
We as users should be thankful that there are too many submissions getting protected rather than too many getting blamed. It doesn't really matter that there's a surplus of shit; what matters is that great content is still submitted each day. Our primary service as voters is to keep users coming to submit their work. I hope you'll agree that even this portal is better than no portal at all.
There was a time when the admins wanted the portal voters to go a little easier on the flashes that come through. Some flashes that were really bad they thought were amusing and chose to save them. Maybe some took that too literally but really, we have to draw a line somewhere with what passes. We may have had plenty of spam submissions by the SS, KK, etc but when it comes to crappy stick flashes passing as well as 4-frame GIFs and blank submissions, something isn't right. And no, none of you need to remind me of those Adolf Hitler flashes.
At 3/27/11 11:27 PM, Emlfuryoflion wrote:
I have always thought that submissions should be blammed automatically, if they EVER fall below the 1.60 score mark.
This isn't something I'd like at all. Zero bombing does occur in flash submissions as well as audio submissions and can still be quite effective. The flashes Coop has been co-authored on have been zero bombed including some submissions of mine. My Christmas 2007 submissions passed with 3.50 or around that amount and the second part even got in the top 10 which is actually something considering the small amount of Flash talent I had. If that flash gets below 1.60 and was deleted by that rule, that wouldn't be very good at all.
For low rated submissions that have passed even if they should have been blammed, I'll leave the fate of those flashes to the admins. A lot of submissions have been caught out over the last few months thanks to users going through flashes for their genre/icon modding duties. I've caught a dozen or two that were either blank submissions, broken or pornographic and have been deleted by Tom.
At 3/28/11 12:34 AM, LittleWashu wrote:
Though if you do see a stolen Flash in the portal and I am online Like a few other said to me PM me a link and I won't mind giving it an honest whistle.
I'll rely on the EGB members to raise the attention of stolen submissions. They're doing a good job already and I'll help them out with a whistle if I have it in mind. I really want to make sure no stolen content gets through as it really killed me when I saw someone stealing one of my flashes and the fucking chodes voted to pass the submission. I'm still bitter about that, even if it was deleted ages ago.
At 3/28/11 08:56 AM, DiMono wrote:
I'd say the best way to change it would be to raise the initial standards so that it needs an average of 2 or higher after 200 votes
I remember Wade saying 1.6 was too low of a score requirement in order to pass. This is going back to 2008 and haven't heard anything else since but I'll just hope that a higher score requirement to pass will be included in the redesign. You could argue they should do that right away but if what I hope becomes a reality, it's better late than never.
At 3/28/11 07:18 PM, DiMono wrote:
In related news, the fuck is up with all the linkbucks.com submissions recently? The Tau Troops submissions (4 so far) are nothing but crappy loops with linkbucks links embedded in the video. How much do you want to bet at least a couple of them pass?
I did my part to try and get them blammed. All but one passed but I fear if they make more crap, that one flash of theirs that managed to survive is enough for the rest to go through.