At 11/8/12 12:24 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: Yes it will

Then why aren't there millions of deaf people in this country who've used firearms without hearing protection, myself included?

http://www.hearingcenteronline.com/askmsearsd.shtml#question 7
http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/pages/noise.aspx#sou nds

All right, now find me a source for those brain-exploding bowel-expelling bullets. Chop chop.

I hope you realize that every time you don't respond to a rebuttal, you concede an argument, leanlifter1. As in, through your own unwillingness to respond to what we're saying, you're admitting your argument was wrong.

At 11/8/12 01:13 AM, Proteas wrote: I hope you realize that every time you don't respond to a rebuttal, you concede an argument, leanlifter1. As in, through your own unwillingness to respond to what we're saying, you're admitting your argument was wrong.

Text book ^ "Logical Fallacy" ^ above with slight undertones of ad hominem attacking and an admission that they can't get enough of my bombastic rhetoric and discourse. "beats cheats and makes gorilla sounds" !

At 11/8/12 01:29 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: Text book ^ "Logical Fallacy" ^ above with slight undertones of ad hominem attacking and an admission that they can't get enough of my bombastic rhetoric and discourse. "beats cheats and makes gorilla sounds" !

You're not willing to defend your own arguments against the criticisms and replies given, much less respond to those criticisms. In essence, your silence implies a concession of the argument.

You have two options at this point. You can either...

(a) go back and respond to each point made, thus withdrawing your concession in an attempt to refute us and carry the conversation further.

or

(b) continue on in the same manner you've been going and concede that you've been wrong on every point, which leaves you very little room going forward.

Gun control will never work, it would only effect law abbiding citizens. Criminals will get guns regards of what laws are enacted. If anything gun control will only make things worse as criminals will have less of a deterrent that will make them think before commiting a crime.

At 11/8/12 12:24 AM, leanlifter1 wrote:

Yes it will

http://www.hearingcenteronline.com/askmsearsd.shtml#question 7
http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/pages/noise.aspx#sou nds

No...

At 11/8/12 12:43 PM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 11/8/12 12:24 AM, leanlifter1 wrote:

Yes it will

http://www.hearingcenteronline.com/askmsearsd.shtml#question 7
http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/pages/noise.aspx#sou nds

No...

Don't be ridiculous the facts state as well as common sense dictate small arms fire will render the human ear deaf add to that close corridors in the home and it's even more obvious.

At 11/8/12 01:51 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Don't be ridiculous the facts state as well as common sense dictate small arms fire will render the human ear deaf add to that close corridors in the home and it's even more obvious.

Hmm. Well, I've shot guns from 1911s, to bigger things like AR15's and AK47s without hearing protection, and can hear fine. So have millions of people.

Sorry but your "research" is false

At 11/8/12 09:04 PM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 11/8/12 01:51 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Don't be ridiculous the facts state as well as common sense dictate small arms fire will render the human ear deaf add to that close corridors in the home and it's even more obvious.

Hmm. Well, I've shot guns from 1911s, to bigger things like AR15's and AK47s without hearing protection, and can hear fine. So have millions of people.

Sorry but your "research" is false

I bet your ears were ringing tho, I only shoot my .22 and 20 gauge without hearing protection, I mean if someone broke in my house tho FUCK IT let my ears ring for a week

At 11/8/12 09:16 PM, 919CDS wrote:

At 11/8/12 09:04 PM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 11/8/12 01:51 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Don't be ridiculous the facts state as well as common sense dictate small arms fire will render the human ear deaf add to that close corridors in the home and it's even more obvious.

Hmm. Well, I've shot guns from 1911s, to bigger things like AR15's and AK47s without hearing protection, and can hear fine. So have millions of people.

Sorry but your "research" is false

I bet your ears were ringing tho, I only shoot my .22 and 20 gauge without hearing protection, I mean if someone broke in my house tho FUCK IT let my ears ring for a week

It's not research it's fact small arms fire ranges from 120-150 decibels which is the range of permanent hearing loss this is scientific fact not opinion. That Lemoncrush is just sour that he is wrong but like some others here on NGS he will never admit the truth even when it's common quantifiable knowledge.

At 11/8/12 09:16 PM, 919CDS wrote:

I bet your ears were ringing tho, I only shoot my .22 and 20 gauge without hearing protection, I mean if someone broke in my house tho FUCK IT let my ears ring for a week

Yeah, they rang for a little bit...but my ears weren't rendered "instantly deaf".

At 11/8/12 09:35 PM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 11/8/12 09:16 PM, 919CDS wrote:

I bet your ears were ringing tho, I only shoot my .22 and 20 gauge without hearing protection, I mean if someone broke in my house tho FUCK IT let my ears ring for a week

Yeah, they rang for a little bit...but my ears weren't rendered "instantly deaf".

Quantified Science overrules your opinion and says you are wrong. Your not Quantified.

At 11/8/12 09:57 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

Quantified Science overrules your opinion and says you are wrong. Your not Quantified.

Millions of people, including police officers and military personal > "Quantified Science"

At 11/9/12 03:27 AM, RightWingGamer wrote: Tell me, Proteas and LemonCrush both say they've fired guns without hearing protection. Why are they not deaf?

I have been a drummer my entire life, and although drums are quiet (approx 125db to a gunshot's 133db) I can still hear just fine, and I never used ear protection.

This included full volume drumming in very tight indoor locations.

At 11/9/12 11:30 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

This included full volume drumming in very tight indoor locations.

Yep. I was in heavy metal bands for 5 years, AND have fired guns, all without hearing protection, and I can still hear.

Once again, Leaf-Litter has no idea what he's talking about

At 11/9/12 03:53 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:

At 11/9/12 11:48 AM, LemonCrush wrote: Once again, Leaf-Litter has no idea what he's talking about

He's probably not going to respond. He's just going to sit and stew in his own ignorance.

Nope cause i already dealt with this one I am now in my new thread called "Why taxation is illegitimate." come one come all I presume.

At 11/9/12 04:00 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

Nope cause i already dealt with this one I am now in my new thread called "Why taxation is illegitimate." come one come all I presume.

How come I can still hear, Dr. Leaflitter?

Pox, this is pathetic, even by your lame standards for trolling. Just admit it and move on.

Bitch Diane Feinstien wants Obama Administration to introduce a new Assault Weapons Ban

not going to happen this bitch will get stone walled every step of the way.

At 11/13/12 03:07 PM, Entice wrote: I'm amazed that anyone would still support it after it prove to be such a massive failure.

I know look at Cali and Chicago and NYC nothing good has come from restrictive gun control.

Obama re-election drives gun sales up

Obama Administration Endorses New U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Negotiations

At 11/13/12 07:06 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 11/13/12 05:40 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Obama Administration Endorses New U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Negotiations

But everyone said Obama wasn't going to come for our guns

there are provisions in there that violate the 2nd.

At 11/13/12 07:10 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:06 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 11/13/12 05:40 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Obama Administration Endorses New U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Negotiations

But everyone said Obama wasn't going to come for our guns

there are provisions in there that violate the 2nd.

There are also provisions that "Dictate" every state must be republican governed. The Government do not care about mandations they care about control. Govern - to exercise continuous sovereign authority over; especially : to control and direct the making and administration of policy

At 11/13/12 07:21 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: There are also provisions that "Dictate" every state must be republican governed. The Government do not care about mandations they care about control. Govern - to exercise continuous sovereign authority over; especially : to control and direct the making and administration of policy

no one gives a shit about what you say.

At 11/13/12 07:28 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:21 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

The Government do not care about mandations they care about control. Govern - to exercise continuous sovereign authority over; especially : to control and direct the making and administration of policy

no one gives a shit about what you say.

So you are saying you disagree with the facts ?

At 11/13/12 07:33 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: So you are saying you disagree with the facts ?

no I don't care for your conspiracy theories and Psuedo scientific economic views.

At 11/13/12 07:39 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:33 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: So you are saying you disagree with the facts ?

no I don't care for your conspiracy theories and Psuedo scientific economic views.

shit woops to many tabs and im screwing up I'm working to fast I meant to say Conspiracy and inefficient economic views.

At 11/13/12 07:42 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:39 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:33 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: So you are saying you disagree with the facts ?

no I don't care for your conspiracy theories and Psuedo scientific economic views.

shit woops to many tabs and im screwing up I'm working to fast I meant to say Conspiracy and inefficient economic views.

That's your Opinion and I believe a correct and valid assumption is to state that you are a Fascist Nationalist.

At 11/13/12 08:07 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: That's your Opinion and I believe a correct and valid assumption is to state that you are a Fascist Nationalist.

no I am just a realist. a fascist promote anti-gun or suppression of speech when I support the polar opposite. now quit derailing the fucking thread.

At 11/13/12 08:07 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:42 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:39 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 11/13/12 07:33 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: So you are saying you disagree with the facts ?

no I don't care for your conspiracy theories and Psuedo scientific economic views.

shit woops to many tabs and im screwing up I'm working to fast I meant to say Conspiracy and inefficient economic views.

That's your Opinion and I believe a correct and valid assumption is to state that you are a Fascist Nationalist.

Other people's opinions don't matter and have no truth to them because they are facists.

that sounds familiar..... to a guy who was a facist.! dun dun dun.

lol