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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 00:53:30 Reply

At 6/28/07 12:39 AM, Clownshock wrote: I already explained how it is highly unlikely that he was on steroids especially since the steroids that they found were prescription.

Ummm...

He had steroids in his house. Prescription or not he could have taken them. Anna Nicole Smith, the idot she was, had tons of prescription drugs in her body that she should not have been on because she had a pharmasist friend that prescribed them to her. Benoit could have easily had the same deal going for him.

Just because it's prescription doesn't mean it's ok.

I bet you that when the tests come back they find steroids in his system among many other things to deal with the constant pain of putting his body on the line for a living.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 01:00:17 Reply

At 6/28/07 12:53 AM, RSQViper wrote:
At 6/28/07 12:39 AM, Clownshock wrote: I already explained how it is highly unlikely that he was on steroids especially since the steroids that they found were prescription.
Ummm...

He had steroids in his house. Prescription or not he could have taken them.

Just because it's prescription doesn't mean it's ok.

I bet you that when the tests come back they find steroids in his system among many other things to deal with the constant pain of putting his body on the line for a living.

Yeah but at the last screening on April 10 of this year he tested negative. If he wasn't taking them then what makes you think he is taking them now?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 01:08:43 Reply

At 6/28/07 01:00 AM, Clownshock wrote:
I bet you that when the tests come back they find steroids in his system among many other things to deal with the constant pain of putting his body on the line for a living.
Yeah but at the last screening on April 10 of this year he tested negative. If he wasn't taking them then what makes you think he is taking them now?

Dude, how strict do you really think the WWE is about this stuff? They probably tell them to fill a cup in the bathroom and they use someone else's piss to pass as this goes on with MANY jobs. Hell, I wouldn't even doubt if they used a mail-in service to do it and they did it at their own leisure.

Somehow I doubt that the WWE actually watches them piss. The business has the policy in place to make people happy, but when it comes down to the tests I'm sure it's more of a turn your head the other way type of thing.

If you think everyone in the WWE uses their own urine and could pass a steroid test right now, you're crazy.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 01:14:41 Reply

WWE is a professional worldwide professional sports business and in the past, some wrestlers got in trouble for testing positive with steroids. They are lucky that they were prescription otherwise they could have gotten in a lot or trouble. Trust me, WWE is strict with this stuff because if they aren't, then they are just screwing themselves.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 01:20:00 Reply

At 6/28/07 01:14 AM, Clownshock wrote: WWE is a professional worldwide professional sports business and in the past, some wrestlers got in trouble for testing positive with steroids. They are lucky that they were prescription otherwise they could have gotten in a lot or trouble. Trust me, WWE is strict with this stuff because if they aren't, then they are just screwing themselves.

Yes, they have released people over steroids, but looking upon those people, they are people that weren't living up to their bill so I have a strong feeling they use the steroid claus a means to an end with no need to pay out a contract or because they cause some other type of trouble.

There wouldn't be a WWE without steroids, it's just a way of live. Eddie was on them for quite some time and you can spot it. So was HHH if he isn't still.

When grown men have clear skin normally, then they suddenly bulk up and their back starts to break out it's just about a sure bet they're on roids. Of course, not all people have that happen to them on roids, but it's a good way to tell who's doing them.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 01:27:50 Reply

At 6/27/07 05:44 PM, boloneyman wrote: As for the Ladder Match DVD, I'm thinking I will get it for my birthday, a few of my friends doubt the greatness of the Hardys. Are there any special features?

Not that I have found so far, but the DVD is worth getting. A few of these matches I haven't seen so this ended up being a good buy for me. Plus it was good to see the TLC matches again. I haven't seen the first one in a very long time and it was just as good as I remembered it to be. Damn those were good times for the tag division. Teams like Edge & Christian, The Dudleyz, and Hardyz who constantly worked their ass off made it all worth while and made those title have meaning. Not really the case today.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 01:29:51 Reply

Man, I don't know what the fuck to think anymore - now the authorities are saying something different (I got the jist of it, but my comp was not taking the loading of the webpage well), and the way it happened, there's also the possibility that he was framed, if they find any other DNA evidence, so I'm just......something.......right now. I had just now read the article, and everything seems up in the air, and no one can currently seem to make up their mind. However, Vince shouldn't be disregarding him ENTIRELY now, just because of the circumstances; he should have everyone remember him for who he was. I know it's a little tricky, but no one's entirely sure yet. I dunno'; my head's all fuzzy from all this crap.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 03:13:34 Reply

At 6/27/07 12:43 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Sure, it was weird seeing Cena there until you realized... That his match against Nitro was a damn good one. And we got a 2 ou tof 3 falls match on free tv, something we don't get all that often. I'm hoping this isn't a one week deal, and reading the spoilers SD will be the same, just a lot of wrestling.

I have to agree that WWE should really learn from what happened this week and realize that if they just had more solid wrestling blended in with the over the top story stuff they like, they'd have the best of both worlds, and they could maybe gain back some of that ground legit sports takes from them. But I figure after this week, it'll be on to the next big overarching angle, and it'll be business as usual in Stamford again.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 05:07:18 Reply

It seems that Daniel had Fragile X Syndrome. I thought the members of the club would be interested in further developments

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitpressure s

Outlaw, I totally agree about the tag division. I'm hoping London and Kendrick can find a team to rival with, and bring the tag division into an new golden era.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 05:27:16 Reply

I wonder what the new storyline will be, assuming it starts next Monday (since Smackdown didn't really deal as much with the whole McMahon-death thing). I can't recall a time in recent memory where such a major storyline was scrapped entirely, although I'm sure it's happened before.

Well, at least it can't get any worse.

Of course, that's what I thought after the whole Katie Vick thing.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 05:27:42 Reply

At 6/27/07 12:13 PM, Clownshock wrote: WWE stated that it wasn't "roid rage" as there were bibles next to the bodies and elapsed time between the killings. Benoit also tested negative at his last drug screening on April 10th. Still, telling people not to do drugs is good advice.

But what was Chris Benoit's motivation of murdering his wife and son? I did not see any report saying that Benoit had family issues with his wife. What is his motivation?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 07:21:23 Reply

At 6/28/07 05:27 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:
At 6/27/07 12:13 PM, Clownshock wrote: WWE stated that it wasn't "roid rage" as there were bibles next to the bodies and elapsed time between the killings. Benoit also tested negative at his last drug screening on April 10th. Still, telling people not to do drugs is good advice.
But what was Chris Benoit's motivation of murdering his wife and son? I did not see any report saying that Benoit had family issues with his wife. What is his motivation?

there son was retarded, or similar, and they were struggling with raising him and stuff like that..
they had issues.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 12:11:22 Reply

Nitro should not have lost to Cena, FACT!

I know Cena is the face of the WWE, but people have been shitting on Nitro ever since it was announced he would face Punk, and it only got worse when he won the ECW title. So instead of letting Nitro get a victory in his first match as champ, he jobs to Cena (for 146th time). A non-title loss would not hurt John Cena at all, it would have helped restore some credibility to the ECW title.

But no, we couldn't have that, WWE had to show once again that RAW>>>>>>>>ECW. I know it was a competitive match, but I still think Nitro should have won the match.

And as a side note, BIG-UPS to Avie for his post in a certain thread in the General forum which shall remain nameless.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 13:30:50 Reply

They should make Nitro drop the whole "I'm a Rockstar" thing and give him some ECW calibur(sp?) matches like Tables, ladders, and chairs to show off his inner power which we know he has. He'd be really good with those matches and if he lost the Title and worked his way back up to it, that could rebuild the legacy of the ECW Title.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-28 13:55:03 Reply

At 6/28/07 05:27 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote:

Of course, that's what I thought after the whole Katie Vick thing.

Wasn't the Katie Vick storyline scrapped? I remember hearing Triple H talking to Kane about it on Raw one week and the next week it was no more.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 02:15:07 Reply

At 6/28/07 12:11 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I know Cena is the face of the WWE, but people have been shitting on Nitro ever since it was announced he would face Punk, and it only got worse when he won the ECW title. So instead of letting Nitro get a victory in his first match as champ, he jobs to Cena (for 146th time). A non-title loss would not hurt John Cena at all, it would have helped restore some credibility to the ECW title.

Have to agree, Nitro is the RAW job guy who's now a champion, if he had beaten Cena, it would have showed Nitro was a legit guy to the fans, and maybe they'd start taking him seriously. Yes he's a heel, but heels still need credible wins or else they have nothing. Nitro is a great worker thrust into the main event because of politics, do I believe he can carry the ball though? Absolutely, but you have to give him the chance to do it.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 02:59:19 Reply

you have to give him the chance to do it.

i agree with that.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 05:43:49 Reply

At 6/28/07 12:11 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I know Cena is the face of the WWE, but people have been shitting on Nitro ever since it was announced he would face Punk, and it only got worse when he won the ECW title. So instead of letting Nitro get a victory in his first match as champ, he jobs to Cena (for 146th time). A non-title loss would not hurt John Cena at all, it would have helped restore some credibility to the ECW title.

The WWE never gave an ass about Nitro. I am sure that he will lose to CM Punk very soon. Do not complain when he jobs to Cena, because even HHH and HBK would have job to superman. In other words, Cena = Hulk Hogan in Vince's eyes. Thus, everyone has no choicenut jobbing to him. P.S: I have known that Batista will face Edge again in a non-title match-up this Friday. Does anyone see Batista getting more chances for the gold until he finally wins it? I do!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 06:50:41 Reply

At 6/29/07 05:43 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Does anyone see Batista getting more chances for the gold until he finally wins it? I do!

I bloody hope not. As I've said time and time again, Edge needs fresh competition and the main event scene needs to stay fresh, especially so now that Smackdown has lost a lot of its talent to RAW during the drafts.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 11:31:08 Reply

It was stupid for them to move Kennedy to Raw since he had a logical fued with Edge. Now after Batista who do you think could be the best contender for him? Matt Hardy is a logical choice, but since this is wwe we can forget about logic. When Taker heals that is a ready made fued as well, and of course when Rey gets back that can work too.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 17:06:38 Reply

I think Batista will just smash Edge, so he doesn't lose any credibility. I think the WWE should stick him back with Rey when he comes back. To be honest I can't see him doing anything else right now.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 17:14:24 Reply

At 6/29/07 05:06 PM, boloneyman wrote: I think Batista will just smash Edge, so he doesn't lose any credibility. I think the WWE should stick him back with Rey when he comes back. To be honest I can't see him doing anything else right now.

How's this for advanced thinking: When Rey comes back, Batista aligns himself with Rey, and helps Rey on the hunt for the WHC. Then, when Rey finally gets it, Batista eventually screws Rey, leading to a heel turn and an auto set up feud.
Of course, I don't want Batista in the hunt for any top title, and I like Edge as champ, but whatever.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 17:33:18 Reply

You can count me in the WWE club. And while I'm here, for my first order of business, does anyone recall Chuck Palumbo? He does dark matches sometimes, and has a sweet ring entrance.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 17:36:03 Reply

At 6/29/07 05:33 PM, Krash17 wrote: You can count me in the WWE club. And while I'm here, for my first order of business, does anyone recall Chuck Palumbo? He does dark matches sometimes, and has a sweet ring entrance.

I've seen some of his recent work on Heat, and in my opinion he's definately improved from when we saw him last. I'm liking his gimmick, and I think he could potentially be an IC contender in the short term if he's called up to the main roster.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 20:14:44 Reply

I wouldn't mind seeing Triple H come back soon...I know a lot of people consider him to be overrated or whatnot, but I love him.

er...

I wonder if the DX angle is dropped for good...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-29 21:51:22 Reply

At 6/29/07 08:14 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing Triple H come back soon...I know a lot of people consider him to be overrated or whatnot, but I love him.

er...
I wonder if the DX angle is dropped for good...

Triple H is still out from his injury to his knee, I think.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-30 00:19:10 Reply

At 6/29/07 05:33 PM, Krash17 wrote: You can count me in the WWE club. And while I'm here, for my first order of business, does anyone recall Chuck Palumbo? He does dark matches sometimes, and has a sweet ring entrance.

It's funny since last time we saw that guy he was involved in a gay wedding gimmick with Billy Gunn.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-30 00:44:47 Reply

At 6/30/07 12:19 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:
At 6/29/07 05:33 PM, Krash17 wrote: You can count me in the WWE club. And while I'm here, for my first order of business, does anyone recall Chuck Palumbo? He does dark matches sometimes, and has a sweet ring entrance.
It's funny since last time we saw that guy he was involved in a gay wedding gimmick with Billy Gunn.

Post again and we will make you an offical member of the club.

My god I think we all remeber that, didn't that guy Rico have something to do with them?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-30 00:45:59 Reply

At 6/29/07 08:14 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: I wonder if the DX angle is dropped for good...

No, I think it's something that will go into storage for awhile, but whenever there's a feud where Michaels or H needs help, the other will come out and we'll get another DX run and they'll sell some merchandise. That's a cash cow that WWE can milk for a long time to come if they do it right.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-06-30 00:48:09 Reply

At 6/30/07 12:44 AM, TheSnakeSkull wrote:
At 6/30/07 12:19 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:
At 6/29/07 05:33 PM, Krash17 wrote:
It's funny since last time we saw that guy he was involved in a gay wedding gimmick with Billy Gunn.
My god I think we all remeber that, didn't that guy Rico have something to do with them?

Rico was their "fashion instructor" or something like that. We actually saw him after that as part of FBI when they were a popular faction in 2003. After that, Chuck was traded to RAW and eventually dropped completely from the roster.


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