At 1/15/07 04:36 AM, DarKsidE555 wrote: Sooo dudes, how often will the list be updated?
biweekly, montly or bimonthly!?

I was thinking about friday every two weeks. So the next update will be friday the 19th.

At 1/15/07 12:12 PM, Auz wrote:

At 1/15/07 04:36 AM, DarKsidE555 wrote: Sooo dudes, how often will the list be updated?
biweekly, montly or bimonthly!?

I was thinking about friday every two weeks. So the next update will be friday the 19th.

OMG, k. Sounds good. :)

Update #2
Notes:
-A few mistakes from the last update have been corrected
-Two newly found users are added (StarWarsFanMan and Chao-Guy). Both found by BlackPlastic.
-#100 and #101 are tied as you can see, so I added both.
-Next update: February 2nd

1) 1042 +60 Bad-Man-Incorporated
2) 0967 +44 GoreBastard
3) 0835 +00 MaestroSorrow
4) 0834 +22 speedmetalmessiah
5) 0747 +17 Chronamut
6) 0646 +66 DarKsidE555(+1)
7) 0631 +08 bloo-ray(-1)
8) 0511 +47 BlackPlastic (+1)
9) 0497 +05 MuSic-Creater (-1)
10) 462 +01 Cajete
11) 448 +06 ImperfectDisciple
12) 445 +23 dj-padman1
13) 436 +27 SBB (+1)
14) 416 +02 Kingbastard (-1)
15) 402 +00 Rucklo
16) 394 +00 Flashburn
17) 391 +02 BLACKNOISE
18) 372 +05 Father-of-Death
18) 362 +01 Poetic-Reven
20) 360 +10 RyeGuyHead
21) 354 +74 MegaGold (+14)
22) 351 +05 i2abbitz (-1)
23) 346 +03 Stealth-Emergence (-1)
24) 342 +02 Rave4Yourself (-1)
25) 342 +07 WinTang (-1)
26) 336 +04 LJCoffee (-1)
27) 318 +02 PedroMancuso (-1)
28) 312 +06 SadSpoon (-1)
29) 301 +02 Deflektor
30) 301 +12 MaestroRage (+1)
31) 299 +00 Rubbertje (-3)
32) 297 +09 Killah-J
33) 295 +04 Mitrox (-3)
34) 290 +24 CapnCrunchTehPimp (+4)
35) 287 +03 DarkOtaku (-1)
36) 287 +14 Syntrus
37) 286 -01 Para-Noid (-4)
38) 268 +01 Rythim-Man (-1)
39) 258 +00 XwaynecoltX
40) 253 +00 bjoaierjbioaerjgoerj
41) 252 +00 LoneEagle
42) 247 +00 AdmiralConquistador
43) 246 -01 ShinDenjin
44) 237 +04 cornandbeans (+1)
45) 233 +00 DavidOrr (-1)
46) 232 +00 The-XI
47) 230 +05 Stone-Killa (+2)
48) 229 +?? Chao-Guy (New*)
49) 226 +00 Inlaidspoon (-1)
50) 226 +00 Molotov (-1)

51) 223 +00 SHADOWFOX2
52) 220 +05 Dj-Svenzo (+2)
53) 218 +00 SimonColdblooded (-1)
54) 216 +00 zerofalse (-1)
55) 210 +12 OCON
56) 198 +28 Broken-Needle (+9)
57) 197 +01 Killer-of-trolls (-1)
58) 197 +04 SolusLunes (-1)
59) 194 +03 TheAmateurAnimator (-1)
60) 194 +04 Greeksta-69 (-1)
61) 188 +00 API (-1)
62) 188 +04 586rick (-1)
63) 179 +02 attemptedperfection (-1)
64) 175 +00 rioross (-1)
65) 170 +00 DJ-Thunder-Cracker (-1)
66) 166 +01 Christkan (+1)
67) 165 +00 monkeybullman (-1)
68) 160 +07 Xenogenocide (+4)
69) 159 +09 SineRider (+4)
70) 158 +04 JonH2O
71) 158 +04 BeAtBrEaKeR187
72) 155 +00 Tancrisism (-4)
73) 155 +23 Xx-ChiRoN-xX (+10)
74) 154 +00 Fuel2Fire (-5)
75) 151 +03 Quickbeam
76) 149 +00 Undergoingurge (-2)
77) 146 +00 PhoenixLL (-1)
78) 145 +02 Anth0n (-1)
79) 143 +09 pitchblak (+1)
80) 142 +05 chutzpah (-2)
81) 133 +03 n1k-mUg (+1)
82) 134 +00 stl-product314 (-3)
83) 133 +00 The-Orchestrator (-2)
84) 132 +01 Zeromus
85) 132 +02 Auz (+1)
86) 130 +00 Tanooki-John (-1)
87) 127 +?? mariomusicmaker1 (New!)
88) 126 +00 Arby (-1)
89) 125 +00 Petwoip (-1)
90) 125 +03 Torkelson (+2)
91) 123 +00 UnloadedBum (-2)
92) 123 +00 pitbulljones (-2)
93) 123 +00 PrinceG (-2)
94) 123 +02 Seamonky (-1)
95) 121 +01 LaymanLove (-1)
96) 120 +?? StarWarsFanMan (New*)
97) 119 +00 beatmasterJAG (-1)
98) 117 +00 Whirlguy (-1)
99) 114 +00 Erkie (-1)
100)114 +00 BaMSuKkA (-1)
101)114 +02 Weapongod30 (-1)

Most reviews written: MegaGold
Most reviews lost: Para-Noid,ShinDenjin

I think I´m gonna remove this one^^

Most ranked up: MegaGold
Most ranked down: Fuel2Fire
New: StarWarsFanMan, mariomusicmaker1, Chao-Guy
Off:Always-Dark<br>, wiselinden<br>, Weapongod30

This weeks top 10:
01) +74 | MegaGold
02) +66 | DarKsidE555
03) +60 | Bad-Man-Incorperated
04) +47 | BlackPlastic
05) +44 | GoreBasterd
06) +28 | Broken-Needle
07) +27 | SBB
08) +24 | CapnCrunchTehPimp
09) +23 | Xx-ChiRoN-xX
10) +23 | dj-padman1

13) 436 +27 SBB (+1)

What a damn unlucky number >:E

14) 416 +02 Kingbastard (-1)

pwnt

48) 229 +?? Chao-Guy (New*)

<3

New: Chao-Guy

<3

07) +27 | SBB

Alright.

I know Chao-Guy ^_^

At 1/19/07 03:32 PM, Auz wrote:

Thanks for the update Auz.

Most reviews written: MegaGold

First Reviews written I have ever got, I will make sure on trying to get this again.

Most ranked up: MegaGold

Dominated

This weeks top 10:
01) +74 | MegaGold
02) +66 | DarKsidE555
03) +60 | Bad-Man-Incorperated
04) +47 | BlackPlastic
05) +44 | GoreBasterd
06) +28 | Broken-Needle
07) +27 | SBB
08) +24 | CapnCrunchTehPimp
09) +23 | Xx-ChiRoN-xX
10) +23 | dj-padman1

Wow, a lot of reviewers.

At 1/19/07 03:30 PM, Auz wrote: Update #2

Nice job Auz. I have definantly picked the right person to update the list.

7) 0631 +08 bloo-ray(-1)
8) 0511 +47 BlackPlastic (+1)
9) 0497 +05 MuSic-Creater (-1)

Hells ya :)

At 1/19/07 03:32 PM, Auz wrote: This weeks top 10:
01) +74 | MegaGold
02) +66 | DarKsidE555
03) +60 | Bad-Man-Incorperated
04) +47 | BlackPlastic
05) +44 | GoreBasterd
06) +28 | Broken-Needle
07) +27 | SBB
08) +24 | CapnCrunchTehPimp
09) +23 | Xx-ChiRoN-xX
10) +23 | dj-padman1

I notice it's a lot busier than the flah reviewers' top 10.

Although I suppose that's helped by there being more time in between updates...

Still, do you guys think it may be true to say that there's a friendly team-based nature in the Audio portal and with all the reciprocal reviewing, there are folk who review more than in the main portal, even though maybe not as many reviews in total are written?

I suppose that for real stats like totalWritten, we'd have to ask an admin...

At 1/19/07 10:57 PM, Bezman wrote: I notice it's a lot busier than the flah reviewers' top 10.

Although I suppose that's helped by there being more time in between updates...

Still, do you guys think it may be true to say that there's a friendly team-based nature in the Audio portal and with all the reciprocal reviewing, there are folk who review more than in the main portal, even though maybe not as many reviews in total are written?

I suppose that for real stats like totalWritten, we'd have to ask an admin...

Well if you notice the reviewers in the top ten, they don't try getting top, they just do reviews on thier spare time and do a good job on it, instead of just putting two lines worth nothing like the top 2 portal reviewers.

At 1/20/07 12:15 AM, MegaGold wrote: Well if you notice the reviewers in the top ten, they don't try getting top, they just do reviews on thier spare time and do a good job on it, instead of just putting two lines worth nothing like the top 2 portal reviewers.

Well most folk in the reviewer's top 10 increase list aren't there soley for the sake of a stat - more because they like reviewing, or want to help, as it should be.

For the record, I think ~X~'s reviews where he points out an actual flaw are somewhat useful to authors. Hearing about any flaw you may not have thought about before is surely one of the best forms of help.

Reviews which mark below a 7 and don't explain why it wasn't higher irritate me though.

Anyway, another observation: audio reviews tend to mark stuff higher. Bad Man inc has only given 2 submission a mark lower than a 5. This would be unheard of with anyone over say 400 flash reviews.

And myself... I notice I give higher marks...

Is this an intrinsic difference between audio and movie/games? That it's more possible to make a bad flash whilst striving to be good than to make a bad audio? Maybe we could say that making a song or piece of music is a higher percentage of inspiration and less perspiration to simply make it 'acceptable'. Maybe folk just aren't prepared to take the many hours it takes to make a good game or movie, whilst a decent song can be made in under an hour - even minutes, in rare cases.

Maybe it's partially down to folk reviewing less random stuff in the audio portal and reviewing more stuff by authors who've reviewed their works, or finding audio tracks by authors they like. Folk in the flash portal may be more likely to click on 'random entry' or browse the latest list?

Maybe it's because the genre categories ensures that folk listen to types of music they enjoy whilst I (for example) might accidentally watch a kill-fest even though I dislike such things? (My favourite Krinkel movie was his first.)

Another possible factor is the spam groups that exist in the main portal, which, to my knowledge, don't exist on the audio version.

I'd hypothesise that the main factor is the fact that good music takes (generally) less time to create than good games or movies.

What are your thoughts?

I believe the audio portal is so small, that the few people who are there compared to the Flash Portal, are a lot more known with each other than the ridicolous amount of people in the Flash Portal, and though some songs may take several months to make, songs are a lot easier to make in short time than Flashes.

Since nearly everyone visiting the audio portal make music themselves, if you get a really harsh and low rating review, it makes you feel a lot worse than a Flash movie, simply because you get a lot fewer audio reviews than a Flash would get. And becuase there are a lot fewer n00bs who make audio reviews than flash reviews.

I found someone who is not on the list, but should be.
DJRaveR
Put that guy in.
THX. BAI.

Yeeeee!

*high fives*

I feel bad for Auz, having to do all of these lists :(

wow, that's alot of names...

At 1/21/07 01:03 PM, milinko959 wrote: I feel bad for Auz, having to do all of these lists :(

I feel bad for AUS 300 B/Pers, Review Responses, Blammers, maybe the RCVL others.

At 1/19/07 06:07 PM, MegaGold wrote:

Most ranked up: MegaGold

Dominated

This weeks top 10:
01) +74 | MegaGold
02) +66 | DarKsidE555

Ahhh, damn. DX

And I thought I would take the "crown" this time. Damn you MegaGold, damn you I say! >:(

Yeah, thanks for the update Auz! Ur teh man! ;)

About that little discussion...I second SBB. A major problem in the audio portal is that votes don't give you points there, so only quite a few people review and vote there. Infact a single zero vote can pretty much punch you down to NOWHERE.

It happens often that very good songs which deserve to be Top 10 or more, got kicked down in the middle of the desert just because some prick voted 0. >: (

I mean...a single 0. For the review scores...they doesn't matter, rly. They don't influence the "real" score in any way. It's just sooo damn hard to get some decent reviews around in the audio portal if you aren't well known there or do the 1.000.000 arrangement of a video game tune.

Sad is the world. : (

At 1/20/07 12:15 AM, MegaGold wrote:: Well if you notice the reviewers in the top ten, they don't try getting top, they just do reviews on thier spare time and do a good job on it, instead of just putting two lines worth nothing like the top 2 portal reviewers.

What exatly 2 lines are you referring to???? sorry to say but if thats what you think then you really have not seen the reviews then???

for me i write what i can depending on the flash, and for audio, aswell but for audio its going to be much less as its soley based on sound, while flash deals with a number of more issues.

~X~

At 1/22/07 11:23 AM, XwaynecoltX wrote: for me i write what i can depending on the flash, and for audio, aswell but for audio its going to be much less as its soley based on sound, while flash deals with a number of more issues.

~X~

Because writing long audio reviews is impossible...

At 1/22/07 11:23 AM, XwaynecoltX wrote: but for audio its going to be much less as its soley based on sound, while flash deals with a number of more issues.

~X~

So naive.
You have to make music or at least try to really being to understand it and make a good review.

At 1/22/07 02:25 PM, BlackPlastic wrote:: So naive.

You have to make music or at least try to really being to understand it and make a good review.

the review should be on what you are listening to, if you like writing huge things but in the end it all comes down to whats in that certain audio, you could sit there and chat all day but still would go off topic.

now if osmething really stands out or sparks an interest then i can see more deph in the review.

~X~

Hmmm, I went through your fine list and noticed I am not on it and should be.

Might I add that this was a great idea for a thread, THANKYOU!

At 1/20/07 02:31 AM, Bezman wrote:

At 1/20/07 12:15 AM, MegaGold wrote:

Reviews which mark below a 7 and don't explain why it wasn't higher irritate me though.

Anyway, another observation: audio reviews tend to mark stuff higher. Bad Man inc has only given 2 submission a mark lower than a 5. This would be unheard of with anyone over say 400 flash reviews.

I tend to have been somewhat generous in alot of my reviews. Mainly based on potential. I know how difficult it is to make and mix music on your computer. Fruity loops and reason and all those, already have beautiful sounding samples etc. Usually quality is superb with those.

With heavy metal..alot of the sound depends on external tools as well..and to get that to mix right with other programs into one track, without a studio is pretty difficult. So away from "sound" I usually go with what it could sound like if done in a studio. Although, I have already decided that I have to be a tad more critical. I still wanna help...I just don't want to pamper from the
TRUTH!!!

Anyways, happy reviewing.\m/

Oh man I just read that the next update isnt coming until Feb 2. Thats a shame, oh well it just means I will be able to get my review total up some more and move up those ranks!

At 1/20/07 03:11 PM, SBB wrote: DJRaveR

*added*

At 1/21/07 01:03 PM, milinko959 wrote: I feel bad for Auz, having to do all of these lists :(

I don´t HAVE to do them ;) I could just say no and let somebody else figure it out. But Blackplastic was about the third or fourth person who tried to create and update a list of audio reviewers and didn´t want to go on in the end, or didn´t want to post it, or whatever. And I don´t really mind spending an hour or two a week on it.

1) 1066 +24 Bad-Man-Incorporated
2) 0973 +06 GoreBastard
3) 0843 +09 speedmetalmessiah (+1)
4) 0835 +00 MaestroSorrow (-1)
5) 0748 +01 Chronamut
6) 0661 +15 DarKsidE555
7) 0634 +03 bloo-ray
8) 0516 +05 BlackPlastic
9) 0497 +00 MuSic-Creater
10) 468 +06 Cajete
11) 466 +21 dj-padman1 (+1)
12) 450 +02 ImperfectDisciple (-1)
13) 436 +27 SBB
14) 423 +07 Kingbastard
15) 412 +10 Rucklo
16) 396 +02 Flashburn
17) 391 +00 BLACKNOISE
18) 383 +11 Father-of-Death
19) 370 +08 Poetic-Reven
20) 369 +18 i2abbitz (+2)
21) 364 +04 RyeGuyHead (-1)
22) 354 +00 MegaGold (-1)
23) 349 +07 WinTang (+2)
24) 346 +00 Stealth-Emergence (-1)
25) 342 +00 Rave4Yourself (-1)
26) 336 +36 MaestroRage (+4)
27) 336 +00 LJCoffee (-1)
28) 323 +05 PedroMancuso (-1)
29) 316 +04 SadSpoon (-1)
30) 310 +23 Syntrus (+6)
31) 304 +03 Deflektor (-2)
32) 304 +09 Mitrox (+1)
33) 299 +00 Rubbertje (-2)
34) 296 -01 Killah-J (-2)
35) 294 +24 CapnCrunchTehPimp (-1)
36) 287 +00 DarkOtaku (-1)
37) 286 +00 Para-Noid
38) 280 +22 XwaynecoltX (+1)
39) 268 +00 Rythim-Man (-1)
40) 252 -01 bjoaierjbioaerjgoerj
41) 252 +00 LoneEagle
42) 247 +00 AdmiralConquistador
43) 246 +00 ShinDenjin
44) 245 +08 cornandbeans
45) 235 +37 Broken-Needle (+11)
46) 234 +01 DavidOrr (-1)
47) 232 +00 The-XI (-1)
48) 232 +02 Stone-Killa (-1)
49) 231 +02 Chao-Guy (-1)
50) 226 +00 Inlaidspoon (-1)

51) 226 +00 Molotov (-1)
52) 226 +06 Dj-Svenzo
53) 223 +00 SHADOWFOX2 (-2)
54) 218 +00 SimonColdblooded (-1)
55) 216 +00 zerofalse (-1)
56) 210 +00 OCON (-1)
57) 202 +05 SolusLunes (+1)
58) 198 +01 Killer-of-trolls (-1)
59) 195 +01 Greeksta-69 (+1)
60) 195 +07 586rick (+2)
61) 194 +00 TheAmateurAnimator (-2)
62) 192 +13 attemptedperfection (+1)
63) 188 +00 API (-2)
64) 175 +00 rioross
65) 172 +02 DJ-Thunder-Cracker
66) 168 +09 SineRider (+3)
67) 166 +00 Christkan (-1)
68) 165 +00 monkeybullman (-1)
69) 164 +06 BeAtBrEaKeR187 (+2)
70) 160 +00 Xenogenocide (-2)
71) 160 +05 Xx-ChiRoN-xX (+2)
72) 158 +00 JonH2O (-2)<br>
73) 155 +00 Tancrisism (-1)
74) 154 +00 Fuel2Fire
75) 151 +00 Quickbeam
76) 149 +00 Undergoingurge
77) 147 +02 Anth0n (+1)
78) 146 +00 PhoenixLL (-1)
79) 145 +02 pitchblak
80) 142 +00 chutzpah
81) 137 +04 n1k-mUg
82) 134 +00 stl-product314
83) 134 +02 Zeromus (+1)
84) 133 +00 The-Orchestrator (-1)
85) 132 +00 Auz
86) 131 +?? DJRaveR (New*)
87) 130 +00 Tanooki-John
88) 127 +00 mariomusicmaker1
89) 126 +00 Arby
90) 126 +01 Torkelson (+1)
91) 126 +03 Seamonky (+4)
92) 125 +00 Petwoip (-2)
93) 125 +?? Sterockiky (New)
94) 125 +?? aspachi (New)
95) 124 +01 pitbulljones (-2)
96) 123 +00 UnloadedBum (-4)
97) 123 +00 PrinceG (-3)
98) 121 +00 LaymanLove (-2)
99) 121 +?? pudding-head (New)
100)120 +00 StarWarsFanMan (-3)

Most written: Broken-Needle
Most ranked up: Broken-Needle
Most ranked down:UnloadedBum
New: pudding-head, Sterockiky, aspachi, DJRaveR
Off: Erkie, BaMSuKkA, Weapongod30, Whirlguy, beatmasterJAG

Top 10 this week:
01) +37 | Broken-Needle
02) +36 | MaestroRage
03) +27 | SBB
04) +24 | Bad-Man-Incorporated
05) +24 | CapnCrunchTehPimp
06) +23 | Syntrus
07) +22 | XwaynecoltX
08) +21 | dj-padman1
09) +18 | i2abbitz
10) +15 | DarKsidE555

^^this was the third update by the way^^ Next update: 02/16/07

13) 436 +27 SBB

wtf I have 463 >:(

Alright, nice job yet again Auz and damn! I have to write more reviews! Still top 10. yay! :D

I could make the list in the next 3-4 weeks, but I really can't be bothered listening to more music. How you guys got so many is beyond me.

Good work everyone on the list though.

At 2/2/07 11:26 AM, Auz wrote: Blackplastic was about the third or fourth person who tried to create and update a list of audio reviewers and didn´t want to go on in the end, or didn´t want to post it, or whatever.

At least I actually finished the thing unlike the countless number of other people.