At 4/4/16 09:24 AM, DeIirium wrote:
At 4/3/16 08:41 PM, MasterStalker wrote:
its not splitting hairs at all. its simple, anime is animation made in japan.
At 3/26/16 09:58 AM, DeIirium wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0tIjw7fIIThat literally only re-enforces my point that it's splitting hairs. The history lesson says just as much and the cultural difference referenced had to have been the niche group that needs to have a special name for everything. Even the guy's own rules confuse him. Anime = Animation. Animation = definition of what a motion cartoon is. My point still stands. Avatar TLA would be less "anime" and more ANIME if it were made in another part of the world. Also, because of all the back and forth of the thas page over this, DBZ, and such, this is relevant:
Animation made in Japan for a western audience is then anime, so Transformers which was an American cartoon is in fact anime. Under that logic at least. Animators outside of Japan still count as anime. Sooo..... All east Asian animation is anime? Then what if Mongolia or Laos or Russia want to get in on that action? Just localizing it doesn't fit at all, even when considering the linked video, that yes, I did take the time to watch all the way though.
It may have meant that at one point in the beginning, but when the lines blur as much as they do now its splitting hairs. Pongo is anime, but then people say the Disney dubs are not. How? It's the same piece of work. Boondocks sample the style heavily but I agree are not anime, nor did they ever claim to be or try to be. Dead Leaves is Asian, but looks like it belongs on cartoon network. Shin Chan is garbage animation and was put on cartoon network. Various things actually classed as anime are animated in Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, etc. Are these not truly not anime?
At the end of the day, arguing for the absolute purity of the topic and breaking down all these increasingly subtle differences into only minorly and almost needlessly different categories to say what is a true or false anime looks, at least to me, like one of those crazy clue walls you see on tv (pic included). And funny enough it's a difference that's only upheld by a fan base, because if there where true rules to be followed some sage like entity in a Japanese animation studio would have posted them for all the world to see easily decades ago.
if youre going to say that avatar is anime you might as well say that all animation made anywhere is anime.
I am in fact making that claim. It's literally split hairs over a translation of a word built up into some divine entity that it's not. Similarly, the word vodka in Russian is pronounced "water", but I'm not going to go the the bar, order a water, then bitch about the alcohol content because I have such an appreciation for the purism of Russian culture.
Do I like and appreciate anime? Absolutely. Has the style, or content been unique to the stuff I'd have otherwise seen state side? Oh, Yeah. But is it going to stay pure in our current world where globalization is a real thing? Nope. Lines blur, rules are bending and it's all melding together.