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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-02 22:04:44 Reply

At 7/2/10 09:36 PM, puddinN64 wrote: Would this be the place for me to rant and rave about how awesome My Neighbor Totoro is?

Because I just watched it and I officially fell in love with it. Does anyone else feel the same way?

great family movie. I saw some stuffed dolls of Totoro and the cat bus in a store and almost got one for my niece. eh, she has so many toys, anyway.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-02 22:14:59 Reply

Just picked up Hellgirl. Going to finish The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya then either opt to watch Hellgirl, or Samurai Champloo for the first time.
Also, picked up the original Fist of the North Star movie, going to have to give it a play through. I've only heard good things about it.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-02 22:24:20 Reply

At 7/2/10 10:14 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: Samurai Champloo
Fist of the North Star movie

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-02 22:25:29 Reply

At 7/2/10 10:14 PM, BaronVonBadGuy wrote: Just picked up Hellgirl. Going to finish The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya then either opt to watch Hellgirl, or Samurai Champloo for the first time.
Also, picked up the original Fist of the North Star movie, going to have to give it a play through. I've only heard good things about it.

I watched some of the first episodes of Hell Girl on IFC, it was actually pretty cool. THough the actual Hell Girl herself doesn't seem to play much of a role.

I also started reading the Manga of Fist of the North Star which was actually released after the anime and the manga in 09. So far I really like the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure art style and the crazy strong protagonist.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-02 22:43:26 Reply

At 7/2/10 10:11 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: They can cut the scene or just not put out a subbed version at all.

There's practically no chance that they wouldn't put out a subbed version. It's fairly obvious the sort of person that K-On! caters to in the Western market.

As far as I know, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC, the folks who regulate all electromagnetic transmissions for the United States) has a rule that states that product placement can only take place in live-action prime-time programming or something to the effect. It has to do with reducing the ways companies can market to children (alas, the old "cartoons are for kids" myth).

I love the idea that they'd be worried that expensive vintage guitars are being marketed to children.

Can they regulate television shows that are going straight to DVD?


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 01:28:37 Reply

At 7/2/10 10:43 PM, Aigis wrote: Can they regulate television shows that are going straight to DVD?

Technically no, but a troubling precedent has already been set.
I have the first season of Kaleido Star on DVD, and of course it's hybrid subbed and dubbed. The dubbed version has several notable instances of visual edits and entire scenes having been sliced out; and in the subbed version, the cut scenes are restored while the digital paint remains.

Also who says the series is going straight to DVD/Blu-Ray? Syfy might run it in their "AniMonday" block or The Anime Network might stream it.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 03:40:02 Reply

At 7/3/10 01:35 AM, Mendou wrote: Who the fuck would watch K-ON! here in the states? Besides retarded weebs.

God, you're such a fucking idiot.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 03:52:06 Reply

At 7/3/10 01:35 AM, Mendou wrote:
At 7/3/10 01:28 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:

Syfy might run it in their "AniMonday"
Who the fuck would watch K-ON! here in the states? Besides retarded weebs.

I'm not a fan of shojo on any level, well maybe Cardcaptor; but either way it looks like your typical shojo with some unique plot elements. I don't see any reason why someone who likes that stuff wouldn't want to see it.

Why it would be on Syfy I don't understand but still.

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At 7/3/10 03:52 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: I'm not a fan of shojo on any level, well maybe Cardcaptor; but either way it looks like your typical shojo with some unique plot elements. I don't see any reason why someone who likes that stuff wouldn't want to see it.

It's not shojo. It's seinen.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 04:14:45 Reply

At 7/3/10 04:03 AM, Aigis wrote:
At 7/3/10 03:52 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: I'm not a fan of shojo on any level, well maybe Cardcaptor; but either way it looks like your typical shojo with some unique plot elements. I don't see any reason why someone who likes that stuff wouldn't want to see it.
It's not shojo. It's seinen.

Really? It doesn't look it, but I looked it up and it says it is.

Why would it be targeted to older males? From what I've heard it's just girls starting a band, and they look far too young to be legally put into sexually compromising situations. Even Ecchi looks like it would be pushing into Loli territory.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 04:33:50 Reply

At 7/3/10 04:14 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: Why would it be targeted to older males? From what I've heard it's just girls starting a band, and they look far too young to be legally put into sexually compromising situations. Even Ecchi looks like it would be pushing into Loli territory.

Yes, well this is Japan we're talking about.

There is a decent amount of fanservice involved. Beach episodes, and the like.

When I watched it I just ignored the stuff they threw in there to appeal to that audience.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 04:39:20 Reply

At 7/3/10 04:33 AM, Aigis wrote:
At 7/3/10 04:14 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: Why would it be targeted to older males? From what I've heard it's just girls starting a band, and they look far too young to be legally put into sexually compromising situations. Even Ecchi looks like it would be pushing into Loli territory.
Yes, well this is Japan we're talking about.

There is a decent amount of fanservice involved. Beach episodes, and the like.

When I watched it I just ignored the stuff they threw in there to appeal to that audience.

I guess, they do have odd censorship laws there, like the bars in the hentai manga they sell publicly.

But I've never liked when a series is heavy on fanservice, but I think ti would be a good idea to ease myself into the whole 'Slice of Life' genre. I've always read shonen or more mature iterations of it like Naruto or Gantz. I've done some psychological stuff like Parasyte and Uzumaki but never the lighthearted 'real life people' kind of series.

I'll check out the manga if I can find it before I try finding the anime.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 05:16:14 Reply

At 7/3/10 04:39 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: I guess, they do have odd censorship laws there, like the bars in the hentai manga they sell publicly.

That's not really relevant.

But I've never liked when a series is heavy on fanservice, but I think ti would be a good idea to ease myself into the whole 'Slice of Life' genre. I've always read shonen or more mature iterations of it like Naruto or Gantz. I've done some psychological stuff like Parasyte and Uzumaki but never the lighthearted 'real life people' kind of series.

It's not really heavy on the fanservice. There's just a little bit of fanservice involved.

I'll check out the manga if I can find it before I try finding the anime.

Why?

I find that Kyoto Animation usually improve their source material. For example, the Lucky Star manga is simply terrible (I'm not planning on getting into a discussion about how 'the anime is terrible too' by the way).


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 10:03:09 Reply

At 7/2/10 09:09 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
At 7/2/10 05:13 PM, SessileNomad wrote: soo yeah i might be late on this, but who the hell is excited for Black%u2605Rock Shooter?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWSeSlH-G dw
So, is it out yet or no?
And are there any voice actors?

no its not out yet, theres gona be some video showed at some anime festival in california, so i would assume they're pretty set for voice actors

i read theres going to be a complete free stream as well, but it probably wont be able to happen in america, so ill have to wait two days for someone to translate it

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 10:20:37 Reply

At 7/3/10 04:03 AM, Aigis wrote:
It's not shojo. It's seinen.

And that makes me sad. Seinen should mean things that mature and adult, not stuff that panders to manchildren.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 19:06:39 Reply

At 7/3/10 10:20 AM, JohnnyWang wrote: And that makes me sad. Seinen should mean things that mature and adult, not stuff that panders to manchildren.

Not everything that males aged 18-30 watch is mature. K-On! isn't any less mature than, say, Family Guy.


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At 7/3/10 06:14 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote:
At 7/3/10 05:51 PM, LaForge wrote:
they are rip offs and really boring too, it's just stupid that they had hellsing rip off everything else.

there are no original animes anymore like they had with monster rancher. meta bots, gundam wing escalfone, or things like beyblade.

How does Hellsing rip everyone off if it was released before them?

Also Escaflowne was never part of the Gundam Wing series, which kind of annuls your point on its originality. Monster Rancher and Metabots were okay but in the end they're just like Digimon or Pokemon.

Beyblade doesn't even deserve to exist so much as be mentioned here. Spinning tops that have imaginary monsters come out of them may be 'original' but that doesn't mean it wasn't in any way a terrible show.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 19:43:56 Reply

At 7/3/10 07:31 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote:
At 7/3/10 07:15 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
How does Hellsing rip everyone off if it was released before them?
VAMPIRE HUNTERED CAME OUT FIRST YOU MORON!

No, Bram Stoker's Dracula came out first

Also Escaflowne was never part of the Gundam Wing series, which kind of annuls your point on its originality. Monster Rancher and Metabots were okay but in the end they're just like Digimon or Pokemon.
Escalfone came out as a seperate series and is not related to the Gundam Wing franchise!

Exactly what I said, you said Gundam Wing Escaflowne

those other series are great but you don't see the art and beauty of them!

It's shonen, there really isn't much in the way of art and beauty in them

too bad you like stupid shows like gundam seed and bobobobobo...

Nah Son! I'm too busy watching all my cool original shows like Naruto and Bleach to check out new stuff.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 22:30:49 Reply

I know you guys have already gone past this topic, but I couldn't help but notice.

At 7/3/10 05:16 AM, Aigis wrote: I find that Kyoto Animation usually improve their source material. For example, the Lucky Star manga is simply terrible (I'm not planning on getting into a discussion about how 'the anime is terrible too' by the way).

Now I quite enjoyed the Lucky*Star manga, and I even plan on buying the complete set that has been released in the US. I especially like how it's 4koma style lends itself to feeling very much like a western comic. The key to enjoying it is to not give it a consistent storyline, but look at it as if were a collection of daily comic strips of the kind printed from a newspaper (this sort of applies to the anime as well). It's sort of like Garfield; how certain events that happen may or may not affect the characters in the future, and they tend not to.

Now about the topic on hand... I keep hearing about how Naruto steals fighting scenes from other animes; is this true?

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At 7/3/10 10:30 PM, firemaker60 wrote: It's sort of like Garfield; how certain events that happen may or may not affect the characters in the future, and they tend not to.

It's also like Garfield in that it's really unfunny.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 23:29:45 Reply

At 7/3/10 10:30 PM, firemaker60 wrote:
Now about the topic on hand... I keep hearing about how Naruto steals fighting scenes from other animes; is this true?

I've never heard that, but I did hear that Nick Simmons' OEL manga Incarnate stole content from popular manga like Naruto and Bleach. Is it possible you got some stories mixed up? I get that all the time.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-03 23:49:21 Reply

At 7/3/10 11:29 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: I've never heard that, but I did hear that Nick Simmons' OEL manga Incarnate stole content from popular manga like Naruto and Bleach. Is it possible you got some stories mixed up? I get that all the time.

I believe he is talking about this.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-04 00:47:07 Reply

At 7/4/10 12:42 AM, IlikeKorn123 wrote:
At 7/3/10 07:43 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
No, Bram Stoker's Dracula came out first
I'm talking about anime you turbo tard ass.

Well your talking about rip offs. Everything that has ever been about hunting a vampire is ripping off Dracula, that was my point.

It's shonen, there really isn't much in the way of art and beauty in them
There is beauty in them, if video games can be art, so can animes.

I didn't say animes, I said shonen, you know anime for 12-17 year old boys. I know anime as a genre can be artistic.

Nah Son! I'm too busy watching all my cool original shows like Naruto and Bleach to check out new stuff.
Bet you do because your a shallow motherfucker.

Oh I do, I get so absorbed in the characters it's like I know them. The action scenes are so badass and the plotlines are never at any point derivative of anything ever!

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Well alright then, you're entitled to your opinion

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-04 01:28:56 Reply

At 7/4/10 01:06 AM, Mendou wrote: And the relationship between Sasuke and Naruto is a tragic and a complex one.

Yes.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-04 23:00:51 Reply

At 7/4/10 10:40 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: Anime can still be made by america and it would just be american anime.

You're misunderstanding the meaning of the word 'anime'. It means 'animation made in Japan'.

At least, that is the Western meaning of the word.

Saying anime can be American is like saying American animation can be Japanese.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-04 23:04:06 Reply

Does it really matter?

Avatar is a good show, one that is similar enough to Anime to be discussed similarly

If it came up I'm sure we could talk about it like we would any anime.

It doesn't have to be called 'Anime' to be pretty much the same thing.

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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-04 23:21:18 Reply

Does it have to be called 'Anime' to be relevant?

Yes, this is the anime club and therefore anime should be discussed.

But I think it would be perfectly reasonable to assume that Avatar could be discussed here seeing as it has all the qualifications to be anime other than it's birthplace.

It's kind of like Presidency, you could be the coolest 35 year old man in American politics but if you weren't born in America, no presidency for you!

I think calling Invader ZIM an anime is a bit of a stretch but I think Avatar is close enough to be accepted here as a relevant topic for discussion.

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At 7/4/10 11:17 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: I know I'm right, I made many points to say why these shows should be called anime for they're styles except for the fact that they're AMERICAN.

The word 'anime' doesn't describe a style in which an animation is drawn. It just describes the country of origin of the animation. That is, Japan.

It just so happens that Japan is particularly unoriginal with the styles of its animation.


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Response to Anime Club 2010-07-04 23:36:28 Reply

At 7/4/10 11:30 PM, LaForge wrote: I never said Avatar shouldn't be discussed, I said it doesn't qualify as true anime. Anime comes from Japan. I mean, it's where the word "anime" was derived. It's short for "Japanimation".

Actually, anime is short for 'animeshon'.


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