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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 06:30:30 Reply

At 8/20/09 07:59 PM, mariogamer527 wrote: thet portal owner is da guy who ownz flashninjaclan.
he made a blog post read it.
he sucks.
DON'T SELL HIM SHIT

Does seem pretty pointless sponsoring a game for $100. Saying that, i know FNC make sponsorships of $20k+, so I wouldnt rule them out as a good sponsor.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 11:37:59 Reply

@Saza

Yes she's dreamy. You should rent a David Cronenberg film called 'Videodrome'. She's super hot in that.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 11:43:30 Reply

As you can see, I'm wearing my sunglasses already.
I'm going to the hot continent of Africa, to explore and discover formerly unknown species, and I will be starting my quest in Schiphol Airport, continuing in Tunisia and back in my mad country, Holland.

Wish me luck on my journey, if I haven't posted on the BBS or my userpage before September 4th, I've died in a plane crash, or my dear companion internet is in a coma or has died. Keep your eyes and ears open for plane crashes in West Europe and Africa.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 12:27:27 Reply

At 8/21/09 11:43 AM, FlashtooREV wrote: As you can see, I'm wearing my sunglasses already.
I'm going to the hot continent of Africa, to explore and discover formerly unknown species, and I will be starting my quest in Schiphol Airport, continuing in Tunisia and back in my mad country, Holland.

Starting at Schiphol airport? Amsterdam should be the destination, surely.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 12:53:00 Reply

So, I'm the only artist who isn't in a Po3 team and fucked the rest of the team over? :D

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 13:32:19 Reply

When did games lose such depth?
After reading Glaiel's blog post and then playing Killzone 2 I realized just how crap it was.
I mean the action is awesome but there's no depth, the characters are cliched along with the script and the world is simply a set of random alien planets where you just kill enemies that aren't very well explained.
I mean what happened to the beauty that was video game worlds and stories and anything else that wasn't killing?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 13:34:26 Reply

At 8/21/09 01:32 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: I mean what happened to the beauty that was video game worlds and stories and anything else that wasn't killing?

TALES OF THE ABYSS FTW !!


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 13:35:01 Reply

At 8/21/09 01:32 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: When did games lose such depth?

There are countless games with tonnes of depth, don't be so naive to think that Killzone 2 is a shining example of current generation computer games. I think Killzone 2 is a great game, for what it is - a sci-fi FPS action game.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 13:42:07 Reply

Also forgot,

You can't get deeper than the Metal Gear Series.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 13:49:52 Reply

At 8/21/09 01:32 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: When did games lose such depth?

I beat Shadow Complex yesterday and I think what bothers me is how it's painted up as "hardcore" but then they go and remove a lot of what made Super Metroid amazing. Unfortunately, I know when they had to make the game easier, since Super Metroid is a bit overwhelming to someone at first. There's no mission and no goals other than "beat the game" and there's no story to guide you. There's no blue line on the map showing you exactly where to go, and enemies actually get harder towards the end of the game despite you getting more powerful.

Shadow Complex reveals the whole map and all its secrets to you halfway through the game. It holds your hand the entire way. It's easy near the end.

Yet this is what's "hardcore" now. It's a steady progression of sacrificing difficult original gameplay in favor of telling a cheesy story and blowing things up.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 15:14:40 Reply

At 8/21/09 01:35 PM, liaaaam wrote:
At 8/21/09 01:32 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: When did games lose such depth?
There are countless games with tonnes of depth, don't be so naive to think that Killzone 2 is a shining example of current generation computer games. I think Killzone 2 is a great game, for what it is - a sci-fi FPS action game.

2008's best selling games -
01. Wii Play (Wii) - 5,280,000 - No depth hear.
02. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - 5,000,000 - Racing in a straight line.
03. Wii Fit (Wii) - 4,530,000 - Standing still.
04. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) - 4,170,000 - Beating up Mario characters.
05. Grand Theft Auto IV (Xbox 360) - 3,290,000 - Blowing peoples heads off.
06. Call of Duty: World at War (Xbox 360) - 2,750,000 - More blowing heads off.
07. Gears of War 2 (Xbox 360) - 2,310,000 - Chainsawing people's heads off.
08. Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3) - 1,890,000 - Blowing people's heads off on the PS3 this time.
09. Madden NFL 09 (XBox 360) - 1,870,000 - I wouldn't really call football deep but at least it isn't blowing people's heads off.
10. Mario Kart DS (DS) - 1,650,000 - Driving in a straight line.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 15:41:57 Reply

At 8/21/09 03:14 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: 05. Grand Theft Auto IV (Xbox 360) - 3,290,000 - Blowing peoples heads off.

Hey now, grand theft auto has a lot of depth, in addition to being an awesome sandbox game. Plus they make it really fun to blow people's heads off.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 15:42:14 Reply

At 8/21/09 03:14 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: Stuff

You seem to hate games action/FPS (or just violent) games yet you dismiss the best selling Wii games where there is little to no violence (SSMB is an exception but it's cartoony).

A lot of those games have a lot of depth - GTA for example, it has a huge rich world full of people doing things and interacting with you and each other, everything from weather to traffic patterns was taken into consideration during development. Call of Duty World at War had a deep online levelling system which allowed you to customise the way you play.. They all have depth, just in specific areas, you seem to be looking for mental enlightenment - this is not what sells games, thus looking at the top selling games of 2008 is not going to help you much.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 15:42:56 Reply

At 8/21/09 03:41 PM, Coaly wrote:
At 8/21/09 03:14 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: 05. Grand Theft Auto IV (Xbox 360) - 3,290,000 - Blowing peoples heads off.
Hey now, grand theft auto has a lot of depth, in addition to being an awesome sandbox game. Plus they make it really fun to blow people's heads off.

That is true actually.
Fine then let's call it a really quite fun but mindless rampage.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 15:51:43 Reply

At 8/21/09 03:14 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: 2008's best selling games -
01. Wii Play (Wii) - 5,280,000 - No depth hear.
02. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - 5,000,000 - Racing in a straight line.
03. Wii Fit (Wii) - 4,530,000 - Standing still.
04. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) - 4,170,000 - Beating up Mario characters.
05. Grand Theft Auto IV (Xbox 360) - 3,290,000 - Blowing peoples heads off.
......................
10. Mario Kart DS (DS) - 1,650,000 - Driving in a straight line.

You can sum up any game like that. Care to give a examples of some games which have depth

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At 8/21/09 03:42 PM, liaaaam wrote: You seem to hate games action/FPS (or just violent) games yet you dismiss the best selling Wii games where there is little to no violence (SSMB is an exception but it's cartoony).

I don't hate FPS games, I just find a lot the same.
I mean Halo 3 and Call of Duty are fantastic games but I'm thinking more of something ground breaking or artistic.
Wiifit is the biggest rip off ever while we are on that subject. It's a pile of crap.

A lot of those games have a lot of depth - GTA for example, it has a huge rich world full of people doing things and interacting with you and each other, everything from weather to traffic patterns was taken into consideration during development.

I must admit GTA is by far an exception, they did take blowing people's heads off to the next level.

Call of Duty World at War had a deep online levelling system which allowed you to customise the way you play..

It's a really good game but nothing strikes me as being very unique. A decent amount of games have such leveling systems now.

They all have depth, just in specific areas, you seem to be looking for mental enlightenment - this is not what sells games, thus looking at the top selling games of 2008 is not going to help you much.

I'm looking in the way of art or story or concept etc.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 15:53:09 Reply

Perhaps it's just me, but I think the true killer of interesting games is Hollywood franchising, product placement, and straight up human greed. Why innovate, when you can just slap Spider-man on it, and make a mint? This is why Transformers2 sucked donkey balls. No one even cared about making a good movie. They just wanted to get paid...big time. Glaiel pretty much spelled this out on an earlier blog post:

Quantity trumps quality. The truth of this is what needs to be fixed.

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At 8/21/09 03:51 PM, CybexALT wrote:
At 8/21/09 03:14 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: 2008's best selling games -
01. Wii Play (Wii) - 5,280,000 - No depth hear.
02. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - 5,000,000 - Racing in a straight line.
03. Wii Fit (Wii) - 4,530,000 - Standing still.
04. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) - 4,170,000 - Beating up Mario characters.
05. Grand Theft Auto IV (Xbox 360) - 3,290,000 - Blowing peoples heads off.
......................
10. Mario Kart DS (DS) - 1,650,000 - Driving in a straight line.
You can sum up any game like that. Care to give a examples of some games which have depth

Portal.
World of Warcraft.
Super Metroid.
Worms - Mainly killing but has something amusing and cute about it. Like a child's fantasy of action and war.
Halo 3 - Reasonably good story.
Need for Speed: Underground - Best driving in a straight line I've ever done.
Rome: Total War


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At 8/21/09 03:53 PM, doctormario wrote: Perhaps it's just me, but I think the true killer of interesting games is Hollywood franchising, product placement, and straight up human greed. Why innovate, when you can just slap Spider-man on it, and make a mint? This is why Transformers2 sucked donkey balls. No one even cared about making a good movie. They just wanted to get paid...big time. Glaiel pretty much spelled this out on an earlier blog post:

Quantity trumps quality. The truth of this is what needs to be fixed.

)

I think you are oh so very right.
Let's hope Hollywood shall make more room for indie games in years to come (unlikely but here's hoping).


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At 8/21/09 03:56 PM, Deadclever23 wrote:
You can sum up any game like that. Care to give a examples of some games which have depth
Portal.

Puzzles involving teleporting.

World of Warcraft.

Gaining stats for meaningless skills

Super Metroid.

never played it

Worms - Mainly killing but has something amusing and cute about it. Like a child's fantasy of action and war.

As you said, just killing.

Halo 3 - Reasonably good story.

Never played, but still just shooting.

Need for Speed: Underground - Best driving in a straight line I've ever done.

Driving in a straight line.

Rome: Total War

Taking over the world

I know there's more to these games, but my point is i'm summing it up in a way you summed up some of the other games which are good.

What exactly do you mean by in depth by the way? Because at the moment, it seems like you just mean having an interesting storyline.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 16:09:20 Reply

Internet argument about video games, oh boy!

Flash Game Summit taught me one thing. Everyone has different opinions on what makes a good game and its not necessarily wrong to believe that a good game is determined exclusively by one defining feature, or that your opinion of what makes a good game is the right one for others.

Just my contribution! Enjoy your weekend!

Weekend
Anyone have any fun weekend plans? I'm going running 10 miles in preparation for my half marathon in 2 weeks, then off to ride bikes with fam.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 16:19:43 Reply

At 8/21/09 04:03 PM, CybexALT wrote: I know there's more to these games, but my point is i'm summing it up in a way you summed up some of the other games which are good.

I suppose, discount that argument then if you must.


What exactly do you mean by in depth by the way? Because at the moment, it seems like you just mean having an interesting storyline.

Storyline, artistic value, concept, innovation, originality...etc.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 16:52:59 Reply

Weekend
Anyone have any fun weekend plans? I'm going running 10 miles in preparation for my half marathon in 2 weeks, then off to ride bikes with fam.

Very athletic! Good luck :)

On the contrary - Americas obesity problems have only just begun.

Introducing THE KFC DOUBLE DOWN
Well, bye bye cholesterol.

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At 8/21/09 04:09 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Weekend
Anyone have any fun weekend plans? I'm going running 10 miles in preparation for my half marathon in 2 weeks, then off to ride bikes with fam.

50 mile bikeride tomorrow or next Tuesday and then church on Sunday.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 18:33:44 Reply

NO LIFE

I've been sitting on my couch watching episodes of The Office since 10:30 this morning.

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At 8/21/09 06:33 PM, Blackfang wrote: NO LIFE

I've been sitting on my couch watching episodes of The Office since 10:30 this morning.

That is nothing to be ashamed of. I would give up 5 schrute bucks any day to do that.


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At 8/21/09 06:49 PM, jmtb02 wrote:
At 8/21/09 06:33 PM, Blackfang wrote: NO LIFE

I've been sitting on my couch watching episodes of The Office since 10:30 this morning.
That is nothing to be ashamed of. I would give up 5 schrute bucks any day to do that.

yeah same, but as long as its the real Office, and not that American rip off.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2009-08-21 19:44:32 Reply

RE: Weekend

At 8/21/09 04:09 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Anyone have any fun weekend plans? I'm going running 10 miles in preparation for my half marathon in 2 weeks, then off to ride bikes with fam.

Since when is running 10 miles fun? Yo iz loco essé!

At 8/21/09 05:00 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: 50 mile bikeride tomorrow or next Tuesday and then church on Sunday.

No part of that sentence could be conceived as being fun.

My weekend will consist of some heavy drinking tomorrow (it's a mate's birthday) then watching Spurs (hopefully) thrash West Ham on the Sunday.


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My weekend will consist of some heavy drinking tomorrow

Me too. It's no one's B-day. I live in wine country, and it's the bloody weekend. Kiss your Pinots goodbye.


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