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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-07 04:59:36


At 9/6/12 10:45 PM, Travis wrote: ? How did square sink low when they are finishing a story up and the way I've understood it.

they should have finished the story at the end of the first game, it was perfect how it ended. kind of like one of those epic poems. but in SE fashion they decided since it finished like that and it got good reception why not make sequels instead of working on VERSUS or KH# or even a remastery of VII?

it looks like its going to be Kingdom Hearts styled fighting.

that makes it worse.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-07 15:36:20


At 9/7/12 04:59 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:
it looks like its going to be Kingdom Hearts styled fighting.
that makes it worse.

How is that a bad thing? Kingdom Hearts has great gameplay.

Also, it's called a "remake", not a "remastery".

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-07 21:33:04


At 9/6/12 10:45 PM, Travis wrote:
At 9/6/12 09:41 PM, FallenMartyr wrote: I feel really bad for not stopping by this club more often, but sadly there isn't anything of value to dsicsuss nowadays.

Oh and just when I think Square cannot sink any lower, they announce XIII-3.

*clap* *clap* *clap*
What is so bad about XIII-3 being announced? How did square sink low when they are finishing a story up and the way I've understood it... it looks like its going to be Kingdom Hearts styled fighting.

I desire entirely new worlds/plot/characters/etc with each new game, it is how the franchise operated up until 2003. The story should have been completed in the first game, but since Square is hemorraging money atm they're creating sequal after sequal so they can use the same engine, character models, don't have to create new worlds, etc and it is really tiresome to sit with a thumb up my ass for years seeing as I don't enjoy the XIII universe to begin with.


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-07 21:46:43


At 9/7/12 04:00 PM, Travis wrote:
How? I don't like Kingdom Hearts games at all, but I can admit that the battle system is pretty damn good.

I disagree, the original Kingdom Hearts is the only one I can stomach due to it's originality, charm and the storyline wasn't convoluted as fuck. The battle system is just your typical button masher I don't see why people praise this aspect of the game. The part most worth praising is the OST.

For combat mechanics see Demon Souls.


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-07 21:52:48


At 9/7/12 09:45 PM, Travis wrote:
At 9/7/12 09:33 PM, FallenMartyr wrote: I desire entirely new worlds/plot/characters/etc with each new game, it is how the franchise operated up until 2003. The story should have been completed in the first game, but since Square is hemorraging money atm they're creating sequal after sequal so they can use the same engine, character models, don't have to create new worlds, etc and it is really tiresome to sit with a thumb up my ass for years seeing as I don't enjoy the XIII universe to begin with.
It took 6 years to create Final Fantasy XIII with the Crystal Tools engine. I don't want a 6 year development cycle, I'm not getting any younger. 2-3 would be fine. Also they are using Crystal Tools to create Versus XIII, not a sequel, just the same engine.

Other developers can put out games of similar or higher caliber in less time, I blame incompetance and the emphasis on graphics over gameplay.

Also did you even play XIII-2 and have you even looked at the direction they are taking XIII-3? The world's are EXTREMELY different in each one.

First Final Fantasy game I completely skipped. I've completed every main FF game+Tactics excdept XIII and XIII-2 and soon to be XIII-3. I played the original game up to Chapter 11 and I just had enough. I don't feel like writing a novel, but if you want to know my exact feelings I can link you to someone else's rant that explains my feelings perfectly.

I didn't enjoy any Final Fantasy after 7 up until 13. That means I didn't like ANY Final Fantasy game for around 12 years. Did I bitch and complain? No, I went backwards and discovered FF5 and 6 which are two of my favorites in the series.

You didn't enjoy FFIX? I agree FFVIII has it's low points but people bash it a little too harshly imo. I'm not really bitching and complaining, more or less lamenting the loss of my favorite developer. They have done nothing but disappoint me over the last decade and I'm still trying to get over it.

Have you played tactics? Imho Square's masterpiece.


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-08 04:10:21


At 9/7/12 04:00 PM, Travis wrote: Perfect? Fang and Vanille were subjected to their clockwork fate of forever being trapped in crystal. Yep, that was a perfect ending. It was a melancholy ending.

it was a good ending, just like VII and X there were loses but in the end the good guys won, but no they had to make shitty sequels because of reception and the sales of the games if they do good enough why not make a sequel? its a dangerous trend SE is doing.

Versus XIII has been being worked on forever now, it's still being worked on.

it was announced in 06 AND HAS YET TO GO INTO Full PRODUCTION and thats its official status.

How? I don't like Kingdom Hearts games at all, but I can admit that the battle system is pretty damn good.

meh the XIII or Turn base dictated by Agility status is better.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-10 19:55:10


At 9/7/12 10:55 PM, Travis wrote:
At 9/7/12 09:52 PM, FallenMartyr wrote: Other developers can put out games of similar or higher caliber in less time, I blame incompetance and the emphasis on graphics over gameplay.
How many of those games actually put out a 50 hour campaign? XIII was around a 50 hour campaign.

Quality over quantity mate, 90% of the game could be completed with auto battle and the other 10% was just a simple paradigm setup beforehand.

Also did you even play XIII-2 and have you even looked at the direction they are taking XIII-3? The world's are EXTREMELY different in each one.
First Final Fantasy game I completely skipped.
I stopped reading here. You said earlier you wanted a game with a new world, plot, etc. XIII-2 was a literal 360 from what XIII was, so if you completely skipped it and are trying to throw out your paper thin opinions about something YOU DIDN'T EVEN PLAY, then this conversation is over.

Why would I buy a sequal to a game I despised? I have watched gameplay etc and it didn't look worthy of me shitting on tbh. Please don't throw the fact I didn't play the game in my face, you can accurately judge something without experiencing it first hand. I don't need to play it, I can already see:

1) Horrible character designs + laughably shallow, generic emo kid and pigtails adventures
2) Melodrama, more pressing auto battle

I was going to continue this list but it's giving me a headache, again the youtube links I provided perfectly describe my feelings better than I could explain at the moment. What Final Fantasy has turned into is not what I enjoyed about the series, the magic is lost I just hope they can rekindle it.

Perhaps I just seek a different experience with rpgs nowadays, as I've grown older. I prefer more mature stories etc etc

Have you played Lost Odyssey? THAT was a FF game mate.


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-10 21:42:02


I just realized if Cloud strife had kids if his choco hair would be a dominant gene. what a horrible thing to pass on.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-11 16:41:23


another thing I realized chocobos look damn tasty I wonder what chocobos would taste like with 11 Secret Herbs And Spices?

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-11 19:40:05


Good news for FFXI A whole new full-scale expansion, two new jobs (Geomancer and Runic Knight), AND a new director. That last part might be the most exciting, Hiromichi Tanaka is retiring. He's the guy who ruined FFXIV, and was then exiled back to XI and subsequently ground the excitement in FFXI from the EXCELLENT Abyssea expansions to a screeching halt with outdated and stubborn design philosophies. Now, Akihiko Matsui will be in charge of FFXI - he was also in charge during the Abyssea renaissance in 2010 while Tanaka took a leave to go work on FFXIV.
Tanaka was instrumental in launching FFXI, and did some awesome work on single player RPGs in the past (Chrono Cross, Secret of Mana). But in recent years he has become increasingly out of touch with MMO players, and seemed to actively TRY to impose his will as opposed to listen to mounting complaints from players.

can't wait new Jobs!

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-13 00:14:37


At 9/8/12 04:10 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: it was announced in 06 AND HAS YET TO GO INTO Full PRODUCTION and thats its official status.

Actually it went into full production somewhat recently.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-13 12:46:34


At 9/13/12 12:14 AM, HikarutheHedgehog wrote:
At 9/8/12 04:10 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: it was announced in 06 AND HAS YET TO GO INTO Full PRODUCTION and thats its official status.
Actually it went into full production somewhat recently.

I still consider it VaporWare until I see a trailer and the fact that Nomura is the director and the production history is full of incompetence I am not holding my breath.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-13 18:21:41


At 9/13/12 12:44 PM, Travis wrote:
At 9/10/12 07:55 PM, FallenMartyr wrote: Please don't throw the fact I didn't play the game in my face, you can accurately judge something without experiencing it first hand.
This comment made me laugh.

Anyone got any thoughts if Agni will be our main character in FF XV?

Please, I invite you to play Barbie: Horse Adventure seeing as there is no possible way for you to know if you'll enjoy it before you play it!


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-16 01:21:03


Hmmm I stopped liking the games after 10.

It really went down hill from there

Before they were fucking awesome. Spent 80% of my childhood playing or talking about them.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-17 13:58:15


I am currently saving funds to get the remaining spinoffs and sequels for the FF series noted in the FFWIKIA. I have all of the Core Series and all of FFVII Compiliation X-2 all the way to XIII and a few others like crystal chronicals.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-17 14:25:57


At 9/17/12 01:58 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: I am currently saving funds to get the remaining spinoffs and sequels for the FF series noted in the FFWIKIA. I have all of the Core Series and all of FFVII Compiliation X-2 all the way to XIII and a few others like crystal chronicals.

Just in case you want a complete list: http://jackho.newgrounds.com/news/post/610678

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-17 21:21:02


At 9/17/12 02:25 PM, Jackho wrote: Just in case you want a complete list: http://jackho.newgrounds.com/news/post/610678

I got a good chunk of that already! though the FF wikia is just as good.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-19 18:52:41


did you know besides FFVII, FFXI is the MOST PROFITABLE game out of the whole franchise?

it beats that piece of shit series that is XIII.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-22 16:43:08


At 9/20/12 07:56 PM, Travis wrote: Stop.

Never. anywho I have to uninstall and reinstall the entire FFXI program on my Xbox because of a software glitch and thats going to take FOREVER. the amount of data is about 9-12GBs and I have to do it Via Wifi what a pain in the ass.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-24 14:07:20


Just switched to my Dark Knight Job in FFXI high level but the magic skills are poor as fuck ( the Magic system is that of american II where you have to use magic to level it)

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-25 11:23:31


I finally beat Final Fantasy Tactics yesterday.

I lost my save file last time I went through it, when I was like right before the final streak of battles. Back then I couldn't be arsed to give it another go, but a few weeks ago I decided to pick it up again.

I didn't even have such a high leveled party this time. I had Ramza at level 35 and the rest between 30 and 40. My Wizard with Math Skill character kicked so much ass in the last battles that I could almost entirely rely on her. I had her do 999 damage with Holy on Altima, who I managed to kill before she even got a chance to attack. So yeah, I had a much better party this time which made the final battles quite easy.

Anyway, that's another Final Fantasy title down.


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-26 02:17:13


9/25/12 11:23 AM, Auz wrote:

I finally beat Final Fantasy Tactics yesterday.

I lost my save file last time I went through it, when I was like right before the final streak of battles. Back then I couldn't be arsed to give it another go, but a few weeks ago I decided to pick it up again.

I didn't even have such a high leveled party this time. I had Ramza at level 35 and the rest between 30 and 40. My Wizard with Math Skill character kicked so much ass in the last battles that I could almost entirely rely on her. I had her do 999 damage with Holy on Altima, who I managed to kill before she even got a chance to attack. So yeah, I had a much better party this time which made the final battles quite easy.

Anyway, that's another Final Fantasy title down.

Congrats on completing one of the best games ever made. I believe it can be completed as low as the lower 20's, but it has been a while since I played the vanilla tactics.

try the hard mod. :) http://www.insanedifficulty.com/index.php/games


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-09-26 02:21:27


With my last reply I visited http://insanedifficulty.com/ and read some of their articles. I implore you to read the Squaresoft vs. SquareEnix article. I 100% agree with everything in the article.


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-10-08 21:03:47


This club is lively and full of discussion.

My sarcasm is currently choking me.


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-10-09 07:19:36


While i didn't mind FF13, and played through the whole game, it definately wasn't anywhere close to the best. I haven't got FF13-2 yet, but will no doubt eventually end up getting it, to add to my collection. But to be honest, i would prefer if they left the sequels alone, and just made new games with fresh characters, worlds and stories.

I think they should go for something similar to FF tactics again. That kind of world/setting, with up to date graphics, and good old fashion turn based battles where you can choose exactly what to do with your team.

Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-10-09 20:44:33


Did anybody actually watch the link I posted a while back, showing a tech demo Square worked on which could possibly be FFXV?

Really looking for some input because it looks bitching and perhaps a return to form for the series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UVX0O UO9ptU


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-10-10 06:20:56


My favorite game is IV


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Response to Final Fantasy Club 2012-10-13 02:01:25


New FFXI expansion coming for its gamers!