At 12/31/05 06:05 PM, gfoxcook wrote:
Oh, some ancient Greek philosophers would beg to differ. When reality fails to meet teh HOLY TRUTH's requirements... which is in the wrong? Reality? Or TEH HOLY TRUTH?
I say reality is in the wrong. But clearly you are of another mind on this one. #;-}>
Indeed. :)
Also, to touch on something I said in that last post: In a perfect world NG would have way more saves than blams, actually. So it doesn't even take a PERFECT world to make the balance on the portal closer to 50:50. It just takes a better pool of artists/submitters.
Mmm. In a perfect world, actually, there would *only* be good submissions - no jokes and stuff, no crap by people who have just used Flash for ten minutes, no (claimed) five-year olds, no j00bie, no Barney Bunch, and all that. But then, in a world like that, the whole judgement process wouldn't be necessary, either, and we'd not even be talking about things like blam and save points. ^_^
And BTW, I never said I came to the portal with the expectation that saves would be easier to get than blams or anything. The only day that's true is days like Clock Day, when saves run like a blood river in a time of slaughter. Mmmm... blood river of saves.
Oh yes... I think I got about 250 last Clockday, although it unfortunately went downhill after they disabled the display of the entries' current scores after voting... :)
But there are a select few, like Toocool, who show us the way: blams can be spurned. And if enough artists changed, or enough voters changed, or preferably BOTH... the portal COULD have more saves than blams every now and then when it's not a special Clock or Lock or Daily Toon or Halloween or Christmas whatever else NG day/holiday to help it have more saves than usual.
I don't think it's realistically possible. There's always gonna be people who think they're funny submitting obvious crap - people who think that they're original and that noone ever did this before. And unless humanity as a whole changes, I'd say that these people will continue to be in the majority, too. ^_~
As for spurning blams... I don't think there's anything wrong with them, actually. There's lots of submissions that *deserve* to be blammed; just voting 2 to 5 on *everything* is just as bad as voting 0 or 1 on everything. It defeats the purpose of the portal - namely, to weed out the bad stuff. It's true that good stuff sometimes gets deleted, too, and that bad stuff creeps in, but voting to save *everything* is not a solution - it really just makes the problem worse.
IMO, worshipping *either* blams or saves *or* ratios doesn't make sense. You've got to take what the portal gives you - and you shouldn't make up your mind and say "I want to save this or that amount (or percentage) of submissions now" before you even know what they're going to be like. :)
But VERY VERY few have near or exactly 0. And that is why it's such a holy grail to raise our b/p while keeping our ratio near 1:1 for myself and others of like mind. It's a goal I once had with gfoxcook, back at 6000 blams and 6000 saves, but my desire for rankups and getting higher in the rankings overruled my number-love side. With my alt, I don't care about getting ahead in rank OR ranking. I'm just raising the numbers together, trying to keep them as close as possible forevah and evah. I think it's a good goal.
I fail to see why a difference of 0 is desirable in any way - it's an artifact, and again, you're worshipping a number that's ultimately meaningless. What you should do is judge the flashes that come in on their own merit and the either blam or save them, as appropriate. If you do that, and if you always vote on their actual quality (or how you see them, at least), then you'll probably still get more blams than saves, but at least you'll be able to look back and say "I gave every flash the rating it deserved, and if I have more blams now than saves, then that's just because some poopheads decided to flood the portal with crap that was duly blammed".
*chuckle* I'll do so in 2010, when I reach level 20 myself. ^_~
Ouch...
You'll probably understand now why I'm a bit miffed with the experience system... people who sign up these days have no chance to reach even a moderately high level anymore unless they literally invest half a decade or more.
I'll be in level 24 in 2010 IIRC. That'll be nifty.
Cool. :)
The blackness is part of what makes 20 so great, though. So 27 doesn't make my top 5. Maybe my top 10, but... eh.
It's hard to say for me which ones my favourite are outside of the hammers. I like the sword (24, I think), and the big rod (29), but neither is really realistic, so I pretty much have my sights set on the first hammer only.
But there's other goals for the meantime, too - reaching 10.00 VP, for example, or reaching EGSC with blams alone, and so on. And of course, passing my secret arch-nemesis (no, not you). ^_~
gfoxcook/gfoxclock/gfox = enough gfox-related alts. I have 999999th and 1000000th as well, yanno. But they're forever level 1s. I don't want to deposit for 5 accounts. 3 is enough. And no, I ain't renaming them to glock and lock, either. #;-}>
*chuckle* Aww... I was just about to suggest gfoxbarney. ;)