At 3/21/08 06:54 PM, CTM222 wrote: This is what I mean by seeking help. This is really worrying if you really felt like this. I dont specifically remember what happened to make me feel stuff again but if I did, I promise I would have said by now. I know its hard but maybe a fresh start with everything. Try not to bottle it, it sounds like you are caging emotion. Every seen the film or read the book "Fight Club"? Because it seems to me that that is very similar to what you are going through.

So what? It's bad to have realistic dreams? I'll just tell you about the dream. Part of it is weird, so... if you need a reason for why I was dreaming about some of it, just tell me. So here we go.
I'm in my house... and some dude is there with a huge fuckin nazi flag telling me how he wants to kill blacks and shit. And I'm trying to make him see the lighter side of shit and get of his peckerwood bullshit. Well, I just got snubbed. Then I think the dream skipped cuz my mom walked in and I was in a different room in a little blue chair. My mom said 'You have a visitor' When I looked up, Ember was standing there. She said sorry and kissed me ever so passionately. I could feel the tingling in my heart. the vibrant feel of everything... it felt so good. And then I woke up. I almost called ember to say I was happy we were okay... but then I realized... I was awake... and it was just a dream. If I was insane, I would have died because of how pissed I was at myself...

At 3/22/08 02:12 AM, Black-Lightning wrote: So what? It's bad to have realistic dreams?

Thats not what I meant. I meant its unusual for someone to feel more alive in dreams than in real life.
I apologise if I offended you. I'm just concerned.

At 3/21/08 06:53 PM, Swordstick76 wrote: Hey Vincoid, What do you thnk i should do?

It's not up to you to decide wether she sits with your friends or not. All you can do is to ignore her.

As for her, I think one of these things might be going on: 1) she wants your attention but does not know how to get it properly, 2) she's a major fucking bitch who needs to grow up.

In the first case, it might be wise to tell her that whatever the hell she's trying, it's nothing but annoying to you. Second scenario; simply ignore.

ok thanks. I just wanted an outside observer's opinion. I'm gonna keep ignoring her.

At 3/22/08 10:23 AM, Cabbster wrote: Hey guys, I'm back again. Maybe thanks to you guys I got in this relationship.

Okay so can you guys please give me advice on going to the movies? Like:

-What are good movies to take them to?

Whatever you want to see really. If there is a film coming out that you really want to see... see that (same for her)

-Are movies in fact a good place to take a first date?

First date? Probably not. Its impersonal and dark and you can't talk. Try a meal or something where you can have a conversation while having fun. As mentioned earlier Ice Skating is great.

-Would it seem inappropriate if I made a move on her in the theater?

Depends on the girl.. If she is shy maybe, if she isnt then you are probably ok.

-Anything else you feel like informing me on

Nah...

Ok so I'm in over my head.

If any of you remember I actually started dating a girl who I have another date with soon, although the details aren't finalised yet. But being as stupid and inexperienced as I am, I was asked out by an ex of mine, who got me drunk and I slept with her. I know, I'm a shit.

Now that's not even all of it. I remember why I broke up with her in the first place, which was because she was a complete bunny-boiler. She never gives me a moments peace and just smothers me all the time. Fair enough I brought it on myself but I have to know how to get out of this while still being able to have a friendly and honest relationship with the other girl, who I've only had one date with.

Any suggestions? I kinda need help here...

At 3/22/08 05:46 AM, CTM222 wrote: Thats not what I meant. I meant its unusual for someone to feel more alive in dreams than in real life.
I apologise if I offended you. I'm just concerned.

I wasn't offended. No worries. I just didn't understand what it meant. It's all good.
I didn't dream again last night. I kinda wish I could dream. It feels so good. I like dreaming now. Even if it's scary, I wouldn't mind it.
I ended up telling a girl I liked her in a text. I meant to lead her on, but I ended up getting in too deep... I just got a simple 'that's cute and I see you more as a friend' and I just said that's fine with me. And I went to bed.

At 3/22/08 10:23 AM, Cabbster wrote: Hey guys, I'm back again. Maybe thanks to you guys I got in this relationship.

Okay so can you guys please give me advice on going to the movies? Like:

-What are good movies to take them to?

I don't think it really matters. A girl would rather go see a movie you picked but she doesn't really like instead of you begging her to pick a movie. Though I would avoid going to things like Rambo with a girl :P

-Are movies in fact a good place to take a first date?

Not really. Unless you've spent enough time with her before the first date. If you've build enough comfort with her, it's all cool.

-Would it seem inappropriate if I made a move on her in the theater?

No. Again, you have to have comfort first. This doesn't only apply to the theater but always, anywhere. If you kiss a girl without building comfort, chances are slim anything will ever happen again with that girl.

-Anything else you feel like informing me on

I thin congratulations would be in order for being in a relationship now ;)

At 3/22/08 11:16 AM, thegreatmorph wrote: Ok so I'm in over my head.

If any of you remember I actually started dating a girl who I have another date with soon, although the details aren't finalised yet. But being as stupid and inexperienced as I am, I was asked out by an ex of mine, who got me drunk and I slept with her. I know, I'm a shit.

You sure are. Now you know why I don't drink (much).

Now that's not even all of it. I remember why I broke up with her in the first place, which was because she was a complete bunny-boiler. She never gives me a moments peace and just smothers me all the time. Fair enough I brought it on myself but I have to know how to get out of this while still being able to have a friendly and honest relationship with the other girl, who I've only had one date with.

Do these girls have anything to do with each other that could complicate things further? As for getting out, I'd recommend that you simply tell her that you don't want to hang out with her.

And could you do something for me? Could you explain to me exactly what you would think of as a 'friendly and honest' relationship?
I'm not saying there's something wrong with that, I'm just interested ;)

At 3/22/08 03:20 PM, Black-Lightning wrote: I ended up telling a girl I liked her in a text. I meant to lead her on, but I ended up getting in too deep... I just got a simple 'that's cute and I see you more as a friend' and I just said that's fine with me. And I went to bed.

Come on man, you know better than that :P

And I know what you mean with those dreams. I myself have experienced similar dreams, where it was as if I'm awake, and everything I touched felt real. Don't think there's anything wrong with dreaming like that. Though it can be a sign of insomnia. I sleep way too little so I guess that explains it :P

At 3/22/08 11:16 AM, thegreatmorph wrote: If any of you remember I actually started dating a girl who I have another date with soon, although the details aren't finalised yet. But being as stupid and inexperienced as I am, I was asked out by an ex of mine, who got me drunk and I slept with her. I know, I'm a shit.

If that were tweaked just a little, you would be my alt.

At 3/22/08 07:19 PM, Vincoid wrote: Come on man, you know better than that :P

i know. I just didn't know how to avoid telling her...

And I know what you mean with those dreams. I myself have experienced similar dreams, where it was as if I'm awake, and everything I touched felt real. Don't think there's anything wrong with dreaming like that. Though it can be a sign of insomnia. I sleep way too little so I guess that explains it :P

Dreams are crazy. I kept trying to make them come back, but... They refused to grace me and make me happy. Which sucks.

I'm not really doing anything. I was scoping around on myspace and Ember is wearing all the shit I got for her and I doubt she even cares the meaning behind them. It just kinda pissed me off.

At 3/22/08 08:28 PM, Black-Lightning wrote:

I'm not really doing anything. I was scoping around on myspace and Ember is wearing all the shit I got for her and I doubt she even cares the meaning behind them. It just kinda pissed me off.

That sucks. But so does MySpace... Yeah, is there really any meaning behind them other than I love you? I mean, It probably means that she's still not over you... You've done some pretty damn stupid shit with the whole Ember thing. Just move on, dude. Don't talk to Ember, Don't think about her. Hell, don't think about girls. Just give it maybe oh, a month or two, and then after everything between you and the dating scene has cooled off, present yourself as a single, free guy that everybody wants to bang ;P Let It Go.

Feels strange giving advice to someone older and definately more expirienced then me :P Especially since I have my own problems with my ex... Lol

The problem is, I can't let it go.
I can be totally fine during the day, but when I go to bed...
She's in my dreams man. What the fuck. It's like she can get me no matter what...
She looks damn good on her myspace too =]

At 3/22/08 12:43 PM, Cabbster wrote:

At 3/22/08 10:38 AM, CTM222 wrote:

At 3/22/08 10:23 AM, Cabbster wrote:

-What are good movies to take them to?

Whatever you want to see really. If there is a film coming out that you really want to see... see that (same for her)

Sorry I meant what type, comedy, horror. Thanks for the advice, though. But kinda didn't help me :(

He means the type doesn't really matter, just watch whatever you thinik is good. Just make sure she's interested in it too. Also I agree don't see Rambo.

At 3/22/08 09:56 PM, Black-Lightning wrote: The problem is, I can't let it go.
I can be totally fine during the day, but when I go to bed...
She's in my dreams man. What the fuck. It's like she can get me no matter what...
She looks damn good on her myspace too =]

Link? ;)

Are you talking all buddy-buddy like yet, or is it still kind of tense with occasional crying? And do you remember if there was any particular thing you said that made her cry? If you made her cry that often, there had to be a few good reasons for it.

Also, do you really still want to be with her? I ask because even though you keep talking about her, you've thought about asking out like five girls already, and even tried asking one girl. I'm just saying, if you still want to try getting together, you'd do better putting that energy and thought toward Ember instead of other girls.

I'm just trying to figure out whether you should continue looking out for her or just move on.

At 3/23/08 01:52 AM, CoryLehan wrote: Link? ;)

Ha! Yeah, no =]
It'd give away her real name.

Are you talking all buddy-buddy like yet, or is it still kind of tense with occasional crying? And do you remember if there was any particular thing you said that made her cry? If you made her cry that often, there had to be a few good reasons for it.

No. She's intent on killing me.

Also, do you really still want to be with her? I ask because even though you keep talking about her, you've thought about asking out like five girls already, and even tried asking one girl. I'm just saying, if you still want to try getting together, you'd do better putting that energy and thought toward Ember instead of other girls.

It's my attempt to move on and replace the happiness! I want ember, but fuck dude... I can't do this shit!

She fucking told the guy that hit her that I was talking shit about some girl he liked. So when I'm walking home to go eat, he comes up to me and says 'I should punch you in your fucking face right now' and then I hear his friends saying 'wait sean. I'll come with you' At least 10 guys were there. 1 was my friend...
If sean wasn't a pussy, I would have gotten my ass kicked because of Ember. I seriously wish I was kidding right now...

Doesn't that make you angry at her? She nearly got it so that you got beat up, dude. Doesn't she piss you off? (C'mon dude, there's gotta be something she does that pisses you off).

I say this because you need to be angry. Why? Because anger is energy, and good or bad it isn't anything other than that. Anger may make you think irrationally, which is perhaps a reason why it is so often branded as a bad thing, but anger gives you the energy to do something. So why do you need to be angry? Because you want to let ember go, of course!

As long as people's dissatisfaction outways their fear of violence, there will be revolutions.

Is your dissatisfaction big enough to outway your fear of violence? Obviously I'm not saying that you need a revolution, so let's set up an equation.

dissatisfaction=Annoyance with Ember, fear of violence=Not wanting to let go.

Right now, your dissatisfaction with that girl is not enough to let go of her. So you need to be pissed at her. Is she a bitch? Yes, she certaintly is. What she just evidently shows that. Also, we all know that she is annoying, and petty.

So let her go! God Dammit!

Or are you to weak. "I can't!" You can, and you will. What are you? A man, a soldier (i hold soldiers in the highest esteem for being well trained), or are you simply a weakling? LET HER GO, IT'S CALLED WILL. USE IT. You know what? for all that i just said, I think you are a weakling. You are a whiner. You're a little bitch who thinks he can't do what he really can do, and he wants the world to know his problems and help him.

Did I even mention that you're a crackpot?

I dare you to prove to me that you're a man.

Fuck you, Weakling.

At 3/23/08 11:57 AM, Swordstick76 wrote: I dare you to prove to me that you're a man.

Fuck you, Weakling.

Perhaps the tough love is prudent right now? I don't know, I haven't been checking in here much lately, but it seems that B-L is still hung up on Ember.

COME ON DUDE, YOU CAN MOVE ON! WE HAVE FAITH IN YOU!

At 3/22/08 07:13 PM, Vincoid wrote: You sure are. Now you know why I don't drink (much).

Well, I think I should be taking a leaf out of your book right about now.

Do these girls have anything to do with each other that could complicate things further? As for getting out, I'd recommend that you simply tell her that you don't want to hang out with her.

Well no, but they do both actively use myspace, in which I've been in contact with both girls. It's easy enough to delete any evidence of possible contact with either one though, considering it's only via comments and messages.

Hm yeah that probably would be best. But I'm a weakling when it comes to this kinda stuff.

And could you do something for me? Could you explain to me exactly what you would think of as a 'friendly and honest' relationship?

Well, from friendly I'd got for something quite casual, in which there are no strong feelings knocking about in either people, but each person very much likes the company and companionship of the other person. Nothing is set in stone, basically.

And by honest, a relationship that would have no secrets, but only when it comes to things affecting the relationship or the person you are involved with. Everyone's entitled to their secrets, but if you're supposed to be in a relationship I think when you're keeping something to yourself that could potentially harm your companion it does no good whatsoever to keep it from them.

So really, a joining of the two would be an easy going relationship in which nothing is chiseled into the other person, but each has a right to respect the other, and keep youself for them, if only for respect.

I'm not saying there's something wrong with that, I'm just interested ;)

Well, that's what I think about it. Not so sure if you'd agree with it though :)

At 3/23/08 03:57 PM, thegreatmorph wrote:

At 3/22/08 07:13 PM, Vincoid wrote: And could you do something for me? Could you explain to me exactly what you would think of as a 'friendly and honest' relationship?

Well, from friendly I'd got for something quite casual, in which there are no strong feelings knocking about in either people, but each person very much likes the company and companionship of the other person. Nothing is set in stone, basically.

I see. Though I don't think there's anything wrong with strong feelings for each other, I think the same about the freedom part. I think you always have to be able to step out of a relationship whenever you feel like it. Which is only for you to decide anyway :P
Though I guess that having your feelings for her grow very strong in combination with falling back in the wussy state of mind can rob you of that choice. Without you even caring.

And by honest, a relationship that would have no secrets, but only when it comes to things affecting the relationship or the person you are involved with. Everyone's entitled to their secrets, but if you're supposed to be in a relationship I think when you're keeping something to yourself that could potentially harm your companion it does no good whatsoever to keep it from them.

Amen on that.

So really, a joining of the two would be an easy going relationship in which nothing is chiseled into the other person, but each has a right to respect the other, and keep youself for them, if only for respect.

Great. I can now easily come to the conclusion that you're no wussy.

I'm not saying there's something wrong with that, I'm just interested ;)

Well, that's what I think about it. Not so sure if you'd agree with it though :)

That's okay, everybody has his own view on what kind of relationship they want, and I don't think there is only one that's 'right'. Though there are some points I think need to be in every relationship in order to keep it healthy for both.
The real purpose of my questions were to see if you are a wussy or not, which I've just answered ;)

And indeed; no to little alcohol = control. Without control, crazy shit can happen.

At 3/23/08 11:57 AM, Swordstick76 wrote: Did I even mention that you're a crackpot?

How do you figure?

I dare you to prove to me that you're a man.

I don't need to prove what I already know. Especially to you. I have no respect for you and you have none for me. Get over it.

Fuck you, Weakling.

I'm not into men, but I'm sure you have a few boys in your school interested enough in getting to fuck you, sir.

I'm just living in the past. When I was happy.
I should join the WWE. Be like Sabu.

At 3/23/08 06:01 PM, Black-Lightning wrote:

At 3/23/08 11:57 AM, Swordstick76 wrote: I dare you to prove to me that you're a man.

I don't need to prove what I already know. Especially to you. I have no respect for you and you have none for me. Get over it.

Haha, you're not a man. Not by a long shot. If you think you're a man, then you're not even close to knowing what a man is.

And in case you've forgotten, every single post you've made here supports the fact that you're no man. Not to mention the fact that you're depressed, using drugs, are unhappy, live in the past, can't get past a failed relationship, etc.

At 3/23/08 06:37 PM, Vincoid wrote:
Haha, you're not a man. Not by a long shot. If you think you're a man, then you're not even close to knowing what a man is.

And in case you've forgotten, every single post you've made here supports the fact that you're no man. Not to mention the fact that you're depressed, using drugs, are unhappy, live in the past, can't get past a failed relationship, etc.

Sorry B-L, He's damn right.

At 3/23/08 06:01 PM, Black-Lightning wrote:
How do you figure?

Uum, Last I checked, you are addicted to drugs. That makes you a crackpot dude.

I don't need to prove what I already know. Especially to you. I have no respect for you and you have none for me. Get over it.

Damn right. But, I like this line. You are not a man by a long shot, but if you were a man then you would understand that you don't need to prove anything to me. Maybe, just maybe, everybody here has been making progress on you. Maybe.

I'm not into men, but I'm sure you have a few boys in your school interested enough in getting to fuck you, sir.

Thanks for insinuitating that i'm gay. You know what i meant.

I'm just living in the past. When I was happy.
I should join the WWE. Be like Sabu.

Living in the past isn't a good thing!
WWE is wierd. Hell, boxing is wierd. It's all to macho and no brains. Do football. That's a better sport that still isn't girly.

At 3/23/08 06:37 PM, Vincoid wrote: Haha, you're not a man. Not by a long shot. If you think you're a man, then you're not even close to knowing what a man is.

So, yeah, he needs to learn more about life and is gaining experience through all this. But at the same time, he's having a hard time. I don't think Ember is the only issue here..

Oh and B-L, Ember isnt called Ember!?!?!
Sly! I never saw that coming!

At 3/23/08 06:53 PM, Swordstick76 wrote: WWE is wierd. Hell, boxing is wierd. It's all to macho and no brains. Do football. That's a better sport that still isn't girly.

He said he wanted to box.. Then box away!

OKay if you guys are so good theres this girl in school and i don't just like her more then that sort of...
anyway do you guys think i should tell her personally or by signal but should i take time or just say it?...
plz reply

At 3/23/08 07:29 PM, Jak-Mc123 wrote: OKay if you guys are so good theres this girl in school and i don't just like her more then that sort of...
anyway do you guys think i should tell her personally or by signal but should i take time or just say it?...
plz reply

Confidence issue.

I take it that you know this girl well enough to talk to and have a laugh with etc and knows you back.
In which case...

Just go for it. Make the most of everything.
If you get a no, little will change with your friendship...
If you get a yes, you get that nice high you long for...

You'll get nothing if you dont try

plus i'm shy and don't speak to her much lol we used to be best friends...

At 3/23/08 07:39 PM, CTM222 wrote:

At 3/23/08 07:29 PM, Jak-Mc123 wrote: OKay if you guys are so good theres this girl in school and i don't just like her more then that sort of...
anyway do you guys think i should tell her personally or by signal but should i take time or just say it?...
plz reply

Confidence issue.

I take it that you know this girl well enough to talk to and have a laugh with etc and knows you back.
In which case...

Just go for it. Make the most of everything.
If you get a no, little will change with your friendship...
If you get a yes, you get that nice high you long for...

You'll get nothing if you dont try

thx for the advice

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At 3/23/08 07:40 PM, Jak-Mc123 wrote: plus i'm shy and don't speak to her much lol we used to be best friends...

Then you might need to present yourself to her as more confident first.

"Used to be" ... hmmm.
A girl would need to know you well to date you, but it sounds like she does.

Go for it!

At 3/23/08 07:45 PM, CTM222 wrote:

At 3/23/08 07:40 PM, Jak-Mc123 wrote: plus i'm shy and don't speak to her much lol we used to be best friends...

Then you might need to present yourself to her as more confident first.

"Used to be" ... hmmm.
A girl would need to know you well to date you, but it sounds like she does.

Go for it!

ok i will

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At 3/23/08 07:47 PM, Jak-Mc123 wrote: hold on while i use rand... well you the drill

Wouldn't it have just been easier to remove some of the unnessecary quoted text :P