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Is rock coming back into the mainstream?

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"Alt culture" seems to get more and more popular every day, is rock becoming popular again?


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 04:03:26


Rock was always mainstream and really has very little, if anything, to do with alternative cultures.


It's like if you said "Will cars become mainstream again? Because clowns seem to get more and more popular."


And it makes about as much sense.

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 06:29:09


At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world


And their children, if they're well educated.


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 06:36:58


At 1/23/21 06:36 AM, Sekhem wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
anyone who makes their child listen to load is a criminal


But anyone who makes their child listen to Master of Puppets is a good parent.


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 10:00:27


Did rock ever leave the mainstream?

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 10:03:24


Rock did not transfer into the digital age well.


Rock songs are very complicated and require a lot of time. An average or above-average song can take a month to mix.


A pop, RNB, rap or electronica song requires much less, and little to no synchronization with the singer or musicians involved.

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 10:28:49


At 1/23/21 10:03 AM, BUM-DRILLER wrote: Rock did not transfer into the digital age well.

Rock songs are very complicated and require a lot of time. An average or above-average song can take a month to mix.

A pop, RNB, rap or electronica song requires much less, and little to no synchronization with the singer or musicians involved.


Are we not including pop rock in the rock category? Because there is a lot of pop rock around, and I'd say there are plenty that are above average, but that's my personal taste.

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 10:45:09


At 1/23/21 06:36 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:36 AM, Sekhem wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
anyone who makes their child listen to load is a criminal
But anyone who makes their child listen to Master of Puppets is a good parent.

When I first got into music and expanding my horizons, I was super into asking people like family what their favorite albums were.


My first stepdad said his fave was Master of Puppets.


Anyway OP rock music is still mainstream and in movies and media and shit, but I'd you mean on like the pop charts? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 11:02:46


Rock n roll isn’t noise pollution

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 11:16:23


At 1/23/21 10:54 AM, Sekhem wrote:
At 1/23/21 10:45 AM, Ryanson wrote: Anyway OP rock music is still mainstream and in movies and media and shit, but I'd you mean on like the pop charts? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i mean, rock was a mainstay on pop charts from the 50s-90s

it even lasted into the early 00s with bands like nickleback (how you remind me was even the NUMBER ONE selling song of 2002, not an unusual feat for rock songs in the past)

if any rock band cracks a position on a pop chart these days, it's extremely briefly

rock music also, by and large, doesn't sell and rock concerts are diminishing in size

if you ask any "alternative" kid what they're into these days, they'll probably say bladee or something and not any rock band


All of this is true, and is why I think I was clear: the pop charts have not reflected any rock music in years I guarantee you. Unless you count Imagine Dragons as rock, but I'll leave that debate to people who care about Imagine Dragons.


Here's the big question I personally would ask since I've basically lived in my own little world music-wise: what happened in the zeitgeist that resulted in this big change?


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 11:18:03


At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.


im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 11:19:42


TL/DR: Sort of but not really, it's cool though because the mainstream's fuckin' boomer shit at this point anyway.


Full answer:

No, the "mainstream" as we knew it is just dying out thanks to the internet.

We have a massive database of content that can cater to anyone's unique tastes without them having to bother even knowing about the shit they don't like. For instance, I haven't heard a pop song in years to the point where I'm not even sure if Justin Bieber or Taylor Swift are still alive... for any of you youngerns out there, those were the big two pop musicians back when I was a lad.

There is no more mainstream, or at least its days are numbered. What we have now are little niche streams for all different types of people to drink from while the former almighty main stream devolves into a sewage runoff.


A better question would be "Is rock becoming more popular?" and the answer would be yes, thanks to things like Jojo's Bizzare Adventure giving young impressionable weebs an appreciation for prog and metal, the Youtube algorithm recommending them more music based on the songs they got into thanks to said show, and then Spotify dragging them even deeper into the rabbit hole with their own algorithm that recommends even more music based on what users with similar tastes are into, not only is rock music finding a new younger audience, this younger audience is actually likely to have a far deeper appreciation for the genre than their parents ever did.

Let me elaborate, I have a lot of records, a good chunk of them I got from my parents' old collections. Just as an example, my mother had a copy of Yes's 90125 album, Owner of a Lonely Heart is well listened to with a few skips and scratches, then it gets to Hold On and from that point in it practically a brand new record.

The last generation of rock fans usually only cared about the hits (ask your dad what his favorite Deep Purple song is, if he says Smoke on the Water then it means he was the 70s version of a basic bitch) this generation of rock fans on the other hand will listen to an entire record because they don't give a damn what the radio track is, every track is on the same level to them and there's no bias.

In short, all the boomers who were pissed about their kids not listening to "their generation of music" are quickly going to switch over to getting pissed about their kids knowing way more about their generation of music than they ever did.


It's not just rock music either, I feel like Jazz has been breaking back into some kind of spotlight as well, probably due in part to people being recommended a little Charles Mingus on Youtube after listening to the Cowboy Bebop OST enough times, which just further proves my hypothesis that anime is doing more to give young people an appreciation for "real music" than any "radio was better back in my day" old-fuck ever did.


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 11:23:18


At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage


At 1/23/21 06:36 AM, Sekhem wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
anyone who makes their child listen to load is a criminal


Fuck everyone, Metallica rules and Load is a good album.

I will fight the world on this subject, King Nothing on full blast as I roll into battle.


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 11:26:15


At 1/23/21 11:23 AM, BillyRedSnake wrote:
At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage
At 1/23/21 06:36 AM, Sekhem wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
anyone who makes their child listen to load is a criminal
Fuck everyone, Metallica rules and Load is a good album.
I will fight the world on this subject, King Nothing on full blast as I roll into battle.

St Anger be heavy as fuck with their grindcore snare

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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 11:28:56


At 1/23/21 11:26 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 11:23 AM, BillyRedSnake wrote:
At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage
At 1/23/21 06:36 AM, Sekhem wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
anyone who makes their child listen to load is a criminal
Fuck everyone, Metallica rules and Load is a good album.
I will fight the world on this subject, King Nothing on full blast as I roll into battle.
St Anger be heavy as fuck with their grindcore snare


That's a snare? I thought the drumming on that album was just Lars Smacking his head against a lamppost for forty-five miniutes.


RedSnake's the name, out of character and gae is the game.


At 1/23/21 11:16 AM, Ryanson wrote: Here's the big question I personally would ask since I've basically lived in my own little world music-wise: what happened in the zeitgeist that resulted in this big change?


It would be too glib to just say "smartphones", but that's part of it. The type of music that young people like now mostly seems to be pleasant inconspicuous noise that you can put on in the background while multitasking. The abundance of easy entertainment also means that something arduous like learning to play one of grandpa's instruments (which might as well include the electric guitar by now) is less popular than ever. They have no desire to listen to something like "The Court of the Crimson King" and dissect every bit of it. Not to imply that the average person back then was a big King Crimson fan, but they were well-liked enough to appear on the Billboard Hot 100 occasionally.


That said, I feel like a fist-shaking old man for having written the above paragraph, so if anyone disagrees, I'd like to hear your opinion. I've seen signs of kids discovering old music and appreciating it, but rock and metal music (or jazz, folk, etc) just does not have the cultural presence that it used to.

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 13:19:42


The future of rock and roll? Bruce Springsteen is fucking it all up.


New wave is the future


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 13:31:20


I don’t mean to sound pessimistic, as I love rock, but rock as we know it in the traditional sense has been dead in the mainstream for a while. It started becoming eclipsed by hip hop and dance music in the 90’s and it’s gotten only worse since. Unless you consider Imagine Dragons rock...


The last ‘real’ rock group I can remember on pop radio was Arctic Monkeys about 6 years ago. There’s traces of it in other places though, many sound cloud rap artists are heavily influenced by grunge and emo.

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 13:34:56


At 1/23/21 02:46 AM, Stupudding wrote: "Alt culture" seems to get more and more popular every day, is rock becoming popular again?


Familys that roll together rock the feather


Wut wut

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 14:27:53


At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage


I'm usually not that into traditional heavy metal, and Bay Area thrash even less so, but Metallica have got some real talent.


At 1/23/21 11:19 AM, BillyRedSnake wrote: The last generation of rock fans usually only cared about the hits (ask your dad what his favorite Deep Purple song is, if he says Smoke on the Water then it means he was the 70s version of a basic bitch)


You'll be delighted to hear that my dad's answer was "Child in Time".


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 15:41:16


Is babymetal gonna do a real world tour? Not just USA and Euros.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babymetal_World_Tour_2014


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 15:47:56


You’re finally awake

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It was always mainstream it’s just you have been in a coma


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 15:57:43


At 1/23/21 11:19 AM, BillyRedSnake wrote: TL/DR: Sort of but not really, it's cool though because the mainstream's fuckin' boomer shit at this point anyway.

Full answer:
No, the "mainstream" as we knew it is just dying out thanks to the internet.
We have a massive database of content that can cater to anyone's unique tastes without them having to bother even knowing about the shit they don't like. For instance, I haven't heard a pop song in years to the point where I'm not even sure if Justin Bieber or Taylor Swift are still alive... for any of you youngerns out there, those were the big two pop musicians back when I was a lad.
There is no more mainstream, or at least its days are numbered. What we have now are little niche streams for all different types of people to drink from while the former almighty main stream devolves into a sewage runoff.

A better question would be "Is rock becoming more popular?" and the answer would be yes, thanks to things like Jojo's Bizzare Adventure giving young impressionable weebs an appreciation for prog and metal,


I don't really like the jojo mangos or animes, and I'm certainly not young by interwebs standards. But I appreciate the QUEEN reference.

https://youtu.be/o0DGZWl4jRg


Weird having anime David Bowie summon a robot Freddy Mercury.


im a loser baby so why dont you freak me

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 16:00:01


At 1/23/21 02:46 AM, Stupudding wrote: "Alt culture" seems to get more and more popular every day, is rock becoming popular again?

pop rock is yeah


Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 16:01:46


At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage


thrash metal is an acquired taste

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 16:10:23


At 1/23/21 04:01 PM, blimbogames wrote:
At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage
thrash metal is an acquired taste


i prefer black metal and grindcore


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 16:17:16


At 1/23/21 04:10 PM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:01 PM, blimbogames wrote:
At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage
thrash metal is an acquired taste
i prefer black metal and grindcore

i love that shit too, i understand not liking Metallica they have a certain feel to their music. very 2008 tutorial video backing track.

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 16:20:07


At 1/23/21 04:10 PM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:01 PM, blimbogames wrote:
At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage
thrash metal is an acquired taste
i prefer black metal and grindcore


Yeah. Your music is pretty good too.

Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 16:36:10


At 1/23/21 11:18 AM, DrunkGecko wrote:
At 1/23/21 06:29 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:
At 1/23/21 04:13 AM, Sekhem wrote: i'm sure metallica can still sell out tours to dads around the world
And their children, if they're well educated.
im sorry but metallica is fucking garbage


Yeah I heard they are notorious assholes. Didn't they sue somone over a fan drawn logo?


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Response to Is rock coming back into the mainstream? 2021-01-23 16:51:41


At 1/23/21 03:57 PM, DamnWei wrote:
At 1/23/21 11:19 AM, BillyRedSnake wrote: TL/DR: Sort of but not really, it's cool though because the mainstream's fuckin' boomer shit at this point anyway.

Full answer:
No, the "mainstream" as we knew it is just dying out thanks to the internet.
We have a massive database of content that can cater to anyone's unique tastes without them having to bother even knowing about the shit they don't like. For instance, I haven't heard a pop song in years to the point where I'm not even sure if Justin Bieber or Taylor Swift are still alive... for any of you youngerns out there, those were the big two pop musicians back when I was a lad.
There is no more mainstream, or at least its days are numbered. What we have now are little niche streams for all different types of people to drink from while the former almighty main stream devolves into a sewage runoff.

A better question would be "Is rock becoming more popular?" and the answer would be yes, thanks to things like Jojo's Bizzare Adventure giving young impressionable weebs an appreciation for prog and metal,
I don't really like the jojo mangos or animes, and I'm certainly not young by interwebs standards. But I appreciate the QUEEN reference.
https://youtu.be/o0DGZWl4jRg

Weird having anime David Bowie summon a robot Freddy Mercury.


I've seriously gotta get into this show at some point.


RedSnake's the name, out of character and gae is the game.