Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-04 23:56:56
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-04 23:56:56
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-05 08:49:42
At 1/4/22 11:56 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
shhhhhh
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-06 12:40:53
At 1/6/22 12:26 PM, Menoyami wrote:At 1/4/22 11:27 PM, JamesSowka wrote:Ever heard of Greece?
Or even Lebanon?
Ask these guys, they have some interesting insights on how national debt affects your access to your bank account.
the difference being that we control the currency that the rest of the world bases it's own currencies on
a pretty uniquely American advantage thay other countries don't have, hence why we can safely say our debt doesn't matter nearly as much
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Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-06 13:13:37
Money and currency don’t technically exist if you think about it very carefully
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-06 13:17:42
At 1/6/22 12:40 PM, Gario wrote:At 1/6/22 12:26 PM, Menoyami wrote:the difference being that we control the currency that the rest of the world bases it's own currencies onAt 1/4/22 11:27 PM, JamesSowka wrote:Ever heard of Greece?
Or even Lebanon?
Ask these guys, they have some interesting insights on how national debt affects your access to your bank account.
a pretty uniquely American advantage thay other countries don't have, hence why we can safely say our debt doesn't matter nearly as much
An advantage that is by no means guaranteed to last into the future. I think it would be wise to plan for that eventuality and get in the habit of not relying on debt spending.
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-06 13:22:49
At 1/6/22 01:17 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
An advantage that is by no means guaranteed to last into the future.
but one we hold now
which makes the comparison to greece and lebanon silly
I think it would be wise to plan for that eventuality and get in the habit of not relying on debt spending.
sure
let's get rid of the tax cuts that have divested trillions from our country over the years and lift the cap on social security (you know, the one that caps the taxable amount for social security to $250k arbitrarily), that's where the lion's share of the debt has been derived from
push for that and i'll be behind you every step of the way, brother
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Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-06 13:42:46
At 1/6/22 01:22 PM, Gario wrote:At 1/6/22 01:17 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:but one we hold now
An advantage that is by no means guaranteed to last into the future.
which makes the comparison to greece and lebanon silly
I think it would be wise to plan for that eventuality and get in the habit of not relying on debt spending.sure
let's get rid of the tax cuts that have divested trillions from our country over the years and lift the cap on social security (you know, the one that caps the taxable amount for social security to $250k arbitrarily), that's where the lion's share of the debt has been derived from
push for that and i'll be behind you every step of the way, brother
I am totally fine with seizing the assets of mega corporations and billionaires to pay for...anything, really.
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-06 18:01:07
At 1/6/22 04:57 PM, Menoyami wrote:
please do tell what comparison has been established that you think is silly?
comparing america's debt to greece & lebanon's debt situation is very silly
edit: while you're at it, please quote the comparison between the two that has been made.
this comparison to america's debt and their debt, right here:
At 1/6/22 12:26 PM, Menoyami wrote:At 1/4/22 11:27 PM, JamesSowka wrote: The national debt literally does not matter.The nowadays educational level.
Ever heard of Greece?
Or even Lebanon?
this was just a few posts ago, and it was your post, to boot
try to keep up with the convo
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Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-06 18:30:38
At 1/6/22 06:02 PM, Menoyami wrote:
and I was mentioning the states... where?
wth are you reading, lol
james was talking about america's national debt, you moron
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Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-07 11:01:32
At 1/6/22 12:40 PM, Gario wrote:At 1/6/22 12:26 PM, Menoyami wrote:the difference being that we control the currency that the rest of the world bases it's own currencies onAt 1/4/22 11:27 PM, JamesSowka wrote:Ever heard of Greece?
Or even Lebanon?
Ask these guys, they have some interesting insights on how national debt affects your access to your bank account.
a pretty uniquely American advantage thay other countries don't have, hence why we can safely say our debt doesn't matter nearly as much
For normal economies the implications of debt are well understood, the unprecedented nature of the US national debt means what eventually will happen is an unknown, and given the global effects of a major economic crisis in America it matters far, far more.
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-07 11:03:36
At 1/6/22 01:22 PM, Gario wrote:At 1/6/22 01:17 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:but one we hold now
An advantage that is by no means guaranteed to last into the future.
but if suddenly you didn’t you’d still have the debt I suppose.
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-07 12:21:38
At 1/7/22 11:03 AM, Curta1nsJoe wrote:At 1/6/22 01:22 PM, Gario wrote:but if suddenly you didn’t you’d still have the debt I suppose.At 1/6/22 01:17 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:but one we hold now
An advantage that is by no means guaranteed to last into the future.
yeah?
since most of our debt is domestic, if it really became a problem the USA could just say "haha fuck you" and refuse to honor it's bonds and such to it's citizens and corporations
that would cause the USA to lose it's status as the most trusted currency on the globe so they wouldn't do it, but if it really came down to it there is an out
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Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-07 12:39:59
At 1/7/22 12:21 PM, Gario wrote:At 1/7/22 11:03 AM, Curta1nsJoe wrote:yeah?At 1/6/22 01:22 PM, Gario wrote:but if suddenly you didn’t you’d still have the debt I suppose.At 1/6/22 01:17 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:but one we hold now
An advantage that is by no means guaranteed to last into the future.
since most of our debt is domestic, if it really became a problem the USA could just say "haha fuck you" and refuse to honor it's bonds and such to it's citizens and corporations
That doesn’t sound like good times for anyone…
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-07 12:43:54
At 1/7/22 12:39 PM, Curta1nsJoe wrote:
That doesn’t sound like good times for anyone…
i mean it's not
since defaulting like that would make the world's trust in the dollar drop and take away our ability to print money, though, it's not gonna happen until it's already too late for it to hurt us that much
it's not something to panic about, but if you're really worried about it democrats tend to be the more fiscally responsible party, so you should support them
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Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-07 13:05:07 (edited 2022-01-07 13:19:05)
At 1/7/22 12:43 PM, Gario wrote:At 1/7/22 12:39 PM, Curta1nsJoe wrote:i mean it's not
That doesn’t sound like good times for anyone…
since defaulting like that would make the world's trust in the dollar drop and take away our ability to print money, though, it's not gonna happen until it's already too late for it to hurt us that much
it's not something to panic about, but if you're really worried about it democrats tend to be the more fiscally responsible party, so you should support them
I’m pretty sure this is how it would go down.
It would make it far harder to be able to borrow money since foreign lenders would be reluctant to continue to lend so there would be a budget shortfall of atleast billions which combined with the outstanding foreign debt would leave you pretty much broke, wiping domestic debt would mean debt holders may go bankrupt or start recalling their debts and selling shares, the markets would panic and crash, which would cause markets all around the world to crash, debts would have to be called in, many companies would go bankrupt, banks would fail, production would almost plummet, which would cause inflation which would cause higher interest rates which would make borrowing harder, this would naturally cause political instability which would turn at least in some places in to conflict, this combined with America’s sudden disappearance as number 1 leaving a power vacuum would result in war and lots of it, as we live in a nuclear age, then well…
Like the Great Depression but worse lol
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-07 13:38:02
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-10 14:13:49
I suggest y’all learn more about economics. We could erase the debt by minting the coin today and if we spend appropriately inflation shouldn’t be an issue.
Inflation and the weakening of the dollar are because of corporate monopolies exploiting pressure points, not because of government spending.
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-15 11:32:48
The inflation we are experiencing now is mostly precipitating from factors that condensed/coalesced from earlier terms, and I contend that the "price at the pump" must have subsidies and discounts appended to it in order to attain actual totals for price
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-15 11:36:59
At 1/10/22 02:13 PM, JamesSowka wrote: I suggest y’all learn more about economics. We could erase the debt by minting the coin today and if we spend appropriately inflation shouldn’t be an issue.
Inflation and the weakening of the dollar are because of corporate monopolies exploiting pressure points, not because of government spending.
I don't know man, I feel like the fact that the biggest money supply increase in America's history that happened during 2020-2021 has a lot to do with the inflation we are seeing now.
As an aside, nobody talks about this enough. This was a major deal.
Response to Let's really see if Biden's presidency really is better or worse financially 2022-01-15 16:44:45
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who sees that it's usually the current president that takes on the messes of the last president.
I don't really have much to add to the conversation because I feel like what has been said has already been stated. But I've said it before and I will say it again, I'm not expecting Biden to be the best president.