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feminists are puritans 2019-09-06 11:47:34


If you look up Temperance movement (while alcoholics i can see point reducing) but just saying.. much of western feminism have roots from religious fundamentalists. They are puritans at heart while trying to claim something else. Not to mention the more extreme it gets the more misandrist values they practice aswell.


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Much of the temperance movement was based on organized religion, which saw women as responsible for edifying their children to be abstaining citizens.[12][40]:23 Nevertheless, temperance was tied in with both religious renewal and progressive politics, particularly female suffrage.[11] Furthermore, temperance activists were able to promote suffrage more effectively than suffrage activists were, because of their wide-ranging experiences as activists, and because they argued for a concrete desire for safety at home, rather than for an abstract desire for justice as suffragists did.[58]:5–6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperance_movement#Role_of_women


A litte history on puritans.. But no wonder Europeans kind of got fed up with those. But this has heavily entered United States since they are very open minded people living there.

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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-06 12:04:21 (edited 2019-09-06 12:04:58)


was always under the impression that feminism started with the socialist and anarchist movements. as a result of Karl Marxis writings.


since the original enemy of feminism was the capitalist system rather than the patriarchy. at least in the push for equal pay.

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-06 16:24:53


Feminists are witches. BURN THE WITCH!

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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-06 16:47:13


Hoho, feminists! They don’t half talk nonsense! Luckily us meninists know how to put them in their place by using our common sense -


At 9/6/19 11:47 AM, Sasukexbox wrote: but just saying.. much of western feminism have roots from religious fundamentalists. They are puritans at heart while trying to claim something else. Not to mention the more extreme it gets the more misandrist values they practice aswell.

-oh, never mind.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-06 16:49:33


I don’t think you understood all those big kid words.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-06 17:21:53


Whatever origins the modern cultural movement may have is probably not connected at all anymore...


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-06 18:47:57


You see puritans, I see salt jars. Help


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 05:56:07 (edited 2019-09-07 05:56:34)


Sasuke Xbox is right, you guys. We should heed his enlightening words of profound wisdom and expertise on the subject of feminism. For I am a man and know not what these women seek nor where it comes from...for too long its just been too complex to grasp.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 06:12:22


At 9/6/19 12:04 PM, RatsAndWorms wrote: was always under the impression that feminism started with the socialist and anarchist movements. as a result of Karl Marxis writings.

since the original enemy of feminism was the capitalist system rather than the patriarchy. at least in the push for equal pay.


There are those, and then there are the others who inspired the Handmaid's Tale.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 06:23:39


The modern feminists have more ties to marxism and socialism than anything else.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 09:25:30


At 9/7/19 06:23 AM, Mismo wrote: The modern feminists have more ties to marxism and socialism than anything else.


And the irony is it has a very puritan belief system. Looking at boobs in video games is wrong, porn is wrong.


In a sense. They dont know what they want. They want pleasure for themself but not for others.

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 10:51:00


At 9/7/19 09:25 AM, Sasukexbox wrote:
At 9/7/19 06:23 AM, Mismo wrote: The modern feminists have more ties to marxism and socialism than anything else.
And the irony is it has a very puritan belief system. Looking at boobs in video games is wrong, porn is wrong.

In a sense. They dont know what they want. They want pleasure for themself but not for others.


That is a gross simplification. But whatever.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 10:56:53


At 9/7/19 10:51 AM, Mismo wrote:
At 9/7/19 09:25 AM, Sasukexbox wrote:
At 9/7/19 06:23 AM, Mismo wrote: The modern feminists have more ties to marxism and socialism than anything else.
And the irony is it has a very puritan belief system. Looking at boobs in video games is wrong, porn is wrong.

In a sense. They dont know what they want. They want pleasure for themself but not for others.
That is a gross simplification. But whatever.


Fair enough. I mean if i am wrong then i will accept it. Would be boring without some criticism :o


Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 11:21:51


I think the idea of gender equality has gone on longer than the puritan movement though. The whole word "feminist" is a bit weird because It reminds me of "feminizing", which I don't think it is... or should be.


But the definition of feminism is giving women equal rights to men, and I think that's a pretty cool thing.

Like, by that definition I'd totally be a feminist. But I don't agree with cancel culture and censorship stuff.

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 11:34:53


There are a fair few branches and ideas in feminism, there are those who believe that women should be free to explore their sexuality, and not be shamed for it, such as being refered to as sluts, whores, etc and wear whatever they want. Then there are those who feel that women should be more protected, and shouldn't put themselves in these situations. Then there are TERFs who view trans-men and lost souls, and trans-women as men wanting to invade. Then there are those who feel women should be above men. Then there are those who feel the world is unequal for a certain portion of men.


I could go on and on, but it's not a simple issue, as well as feminism and conservative religious views not really being comptatble, because of what religion teaches as the traditional woman.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 12:06:09 (edited 2019-09-07 12:06:30)


At 9/7/19 11:34 AM, Little-Rena wrote: There are a fair few branches and ideas in feminism, there are those who believe that women should be free to explore their sexuality, and not be shamed for it, such as being refered to as sluts, whores, etc and wear whatever they want.

Well i agree with that. But shouldnt it go both ways.


No is a no which is pretty obvious. But they kind of do go puritan on your ass if you enjoy porn or boobs or whatever. Its just.. funny with the puritan mentality. Its about control freaks. Considering the more extreme it gets the more misandrist this whole movement gets as a whole.


I am all for equal opportunity. Feminism just happens to be a girl club in a democracy that can either be ridiculed or have some typical ideas that is flat out common sense. Not because of feminism but because its the right thing to do

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 12:56:34


The modern Feminist is a Head Hunting harpie bent on castrating the male population. Though they might have had used some words from the bible to persuade puritan women to give money to the cause, words, like " But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." Supplanting the notion that if the man fails in his duties then God condones punishing him for his sin. Punishment being akin to the creation of Eunuchs. Or words like Galatians 4: Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”[f31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.


All of which are wonderful testaments to the ability of liberty prescribed by the teaching, but I can assure you the modern Feminist has closer ties to Amazonian's than that of the puritan claim, for if you adhere to the Feminist of today, they were never made to be the slaves of a man. Off with his head is there battle cry https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/adventvoice/bad-guy-page-1-male-toxicity-free-forests and they want nothing to do with the male species.


Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 13:06:52 (edited 2019-09-07 13:08:38)


At 9/7/19 12:56 PM, AdventVoice wrote: " But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." Supplanting the notion that if the man fails in his duties then God condones punishing him for his sin. Punishment being akin to the creation of Eunuchs.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 13:36:21 (edited 2019-09-07 13:36:40)


At 9/7/19 12:56 PM, AdventVoice wrote: The modern Feminist is a Head Hunting harpie bent on castrating the male population. Though they might have had used some words from the bible to persuade puritan women to give money to the cause, words, like " But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." Supplanting the notion that if the man fails in his duties then God condones punishing him for his sin. Punishment being akin to the creation of Eunuchs. Or words like Galatians 4: Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”[f] 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

All of which are wonderful testaments to the ability of liberty prescribed by the teaching, but I can assure you the modern Feminist has closer ties to Amazonian's than that of the puritan claim, for if you adhere to the Feminist of today, they were never made to be the slaves of a man. Off with his head is there battle cry https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/adventvoice/bad-guy-page-1-male-toxicity-free-forests and they want nothing to do with the male species.

Alright time to solve the followers of abrahamic religions. Here is why they are wrong


Abrahamic religions are all wrong. They were made out of spite, not truth. If you look at the history and values of it. What if promoting some of the values does the opposite of what you think it does? I made a new religious cult. God of Obvious Good and Evil.


Thats the real truth

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 14:03:08


At 9/7/19 12:06 PM, Sasukexbox wrote: Well i agree with that. But shouldnt it go both ways.

No is a no which is pretty obvious. But they kind of do go puritan on your ass if you enjoy porn or boobs or whatever. Its just.. funny with the puritan mentality. Its about control freaks. Considering the more extreme it gets the more misandrist this whole movement gets as a whole.

I am all for equal opportunity. Feminism just happens to be a girl club in a democracy that can either be ridiculed or have some typical ideas that is flat out common sense. Not because of feminism but because its the right thing to do


As I said, different braches of feminism, I am a feminist in the sense that I believe in equal rights for women across the world, and sexual freedom. This was pretty much the mainstream view of feminism when I was growing up. The extreams are just that, extream.


Fun thought experiment, if I say I want a board that is full of just women, people might get confused, annoyed or angry, and shout "feminazi!!" but then consider that in the past, boards were full of all men, and no one cared, it was normal, so why should it still be normal? It shouldn't, people should be appointed to positions based on skill, not gender, but this doesn't happen everywhere.


Even in the west, there remains a need for feminism, when you have simple office based companies telling female employees that they have to wear high-heels, and a skirt, especially if they are working front of house. This is backwards thinking, women should be free to wear flats, and trousers if they so wish. Heels aren't very comfortable, even if they do look nice.


Your idea that feminism as a whole is puritan is just plain wrong.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 14:15:19


At 9/7/19 10:51 AM, Mismo wrote:
At 9/7/19 09:25 AM, Sasukexbox wrote:
At 9/7/19 06:23 AM, Mismo wrote: The modern feminists have more ties to marxism and socialism than anything else.
And the irony is it has a very puritan belief system. Looking at boobs in video games is wrong, porn is wrong.

In a sense. They dont know what they want. They want pleasure for themself but not for others.
That is a gross simplification. But whatever.


It is true though

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 14:18:51 (edited 2019-09-07 14:20:35)


Even in the west, there remains a need for feminism, when you have simple office based companies telling female employees that they have to wear high-heels, and a skirt, especially if they are working front of house. This is backwards thinking, women should be free to wear flats, and trousers if they so wish. Heels aren't very comfortable, even if they do look nice.


I mean i dont even like suits. I would just suggest suit on top and shorts red and green mandatory to rebel against the control freak culture. But high heels are impractical so its a tad bit ridiculous. But having some dress code i can kinda see point in to be pros or whatever.. but impractical ones is a little bit on the edge for me.


But for example to me i think dress looks nice on females.. but then there is if the wind blows and lifts it up. So its both a blessing and also a little impractical. Pants or whatever dont do that.


But i like dress because they look good in them. But if it was a case where they just decide to use practical stuff like shorts or pants. I wouldnt really argue against that if that was the case. Like if i were to imagine where females just never used dress or that again in terms of practical clothing etc

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 15:21:39


At 9/7/19 02:18 PM, Sasukexbox wrote:
Even in the west, there remains a need for feminism, when you have simple office based companies telling female employees that they have to wear high-heels, and a skirt, especially if they are working front of house. This is backwards thinking, women should be free to wear flats, and trousers if they so wish. Heels aren't very comfortable, even if they do look nice.
I mean i dont even like suits. I would just suggest suit on top and shorts red and green mandatory to rebel against the control freak culture. But high heels are impractical so its a tad bit ridiculous. But having some dress code i can kinda see point in to be pros or whatever.. but impractical ones is a little bit on the edge for me.


Dress codes are fine, and can make sense, but some companies have sexist dress codes. It's not a case of practicality, it's a case of choice, I should have a choice if I want to wear heels in an office or not, or if I wear a skirt or not. Policy should not detract from those who do want to wear heels, or skirts, because some women do.



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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 15:38:32


At 9/7/19 03:21 PM, Little-Rena wrote:
At 9/7/19 02:18 PM, Sasukexbox wrote:
Even in the west, there remains a need for feminism, when you have simple office based companies telling female employees that they have to wear high-heels, and a skirt, especially if they are working front of house. This is backwards thinking, women should be free to wear flats, and trousers if they so wish. Heels aren't very comfortable, even if they do look nice.
I mean i dont even like suits. I would just suggest suit on top and shorts red and green mandatory to rebel against the control freak culture. But high heels are impractical so its a tad bit ridiculous. But having some dress code i can kinda see point in to be pros or whatever.. but impractical ones is a little bit on the edge for me.
Dress codes are fine, and can make sense, but some companies have sexist dress codes. It's not a case of practicality, it's a case of choice, I should have a choice if I want to wear heels in an office or not, or if I wear a skirt or not. Policy should not detract from those who do want to wear heels, or skirts, because some women do.


Where do you live in. But it sounds odd though that its required.

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 15:44:43


At 9/7/19 03:38 PM, Sasukexbox wrote:
At 9/7/19 03:21 PM, Little-Rena wrote:
At 9/7/19 02:18 PM, Sasukexbox wrote:
Even in the west, there remains a need for feminism, when you have simple office based companies telling female employees that they have to wear high-heels, and a skirt, especially if they are working front of house. This is backwards thinking, women should be free to wear flats, and trousers if they so wish. Heels aren't very comfortable, even if they do look nice.
I mean i dont even like suits. I would just suggest suit on top and shorts red and green mandatory to rebel against the control freak culture. But high heels are impractical so its a tad bit ridiculous. But having some dress code i can kinda see point in to be pros or whatever.. but impractical ones is a little bit on the edge for me.
Dress codes are fine, and can make sense, but some companies have sexist dress codes. It's not a case of practicality, it's a case of choice, I should have a choice if I want to wear heels in an office or not, or if I wear a skirt or not. Policy should not detract from those who do want to wear heels, or skirts, because some women do.
Where do you live in. But it sounds odd though that its required.


The UK, it has come up in the news a few times, here's one article from three years ago - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/11/receptionist-sent-home-pwc-not-wearing-high-heels-pwc-nicola-thorp


It's not too common of a thing to happen, but it is a thing, there is no specific law against it.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 15:54:08


At 9/7/19 03:44 PM, Little-Rena wrote:
At 9/7/19 03:38 PM, Sasukexbox wrote:
At 9/7/19 03:21 PM, Little-Rena wrote:
At 9/7/19 02:18 PM, Sasukexbox wrote:
Even in the west, there remains a need for feminism, when you have simple office based companies telling female employees that they have to wear high-heels, and a skirt, especially if they are working front of house. This is backwards thinking, women should be free to wear flats, and trousers if they so wish. Heels aren't very comfortable, even if they do look nice.
I mean i dont even like suits. I would just suggest suit on top and shorts red and green mandatory to rebel against the control freak culture. But high heels are impractical so its a tad bit ridiculous. But having some dress code i can kinda see point in to be pros or whatever.. but impractical ones is a little bit on the edge for me.
Dress codes are fine, and can make sense, but some companies have sexist dress codes. It's not a case of practicality, it's a case of choice, I should have a choice if I want to wear heels in an office or not, or if I wear a skirt or not. Policy should not detract from those who do want to wear heels, or skirts, because some women do.
Where do you live in. But it sounds odd though that its required.
The UK, it has come up in the news a few times, here's one article from three years ago - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/11/receptionist-sent-home-pwc-not-wearing-high-heels-pwc-nicola-thorp

It's not too common of a thing to happen, but it is a thing, there is no specific law against it.


Ah so that is why Jen from IT Crowd loved high heel shoes. Love that comedy show btw!


But yeah i would not oppose the idea of changing to leave to more options or atleast change it to one more practical solution

Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 16:34:15


Interesting idea for a cult, I will have to do some more reading on that one.


Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-07 18:33:38


Were. Different waves of feminism adhere to different values.


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-08 10:21:22 (edited 2019-09-08 10:21:45)


At 9/7/19 01:06 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Bring forth the Bible quotes!!!

Hold on chaps, @Garnet-Frost has an opinion on this post.


Do you endorse the use of outdated Bible quotes on these topics, Garnet?


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Response to feminists are puritans 2019-09-08 10:24:54 (edited 2019-09-08 10:25:56)


At 9/6/19 04:47 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Hoho, feminists! They don’t half talk nonsense! Luckily us meninists know how to put them in their place by using our common sense -

At 9/6/19 11:47 AM, Sasukexbox wrote: but just saying.. much of western feminism have roots from religious fundamentalists. They are puritans at heart while trying to claim something else. Not to mention the more extreme it gets the more misandrist values they practice aswell.
-oh, never mind.


Despite the fact in some ways I respect you, I will always find it weird when a guy, or a group of guys, goes out of their way to defend feminism. Also please don't bother giving me some long speech about how good feminism is or was, especially since they treated me like crap in the past.