I check the site for the first time in a few days and it's the minute I get a reply, how weird
At 1/20/19 07:16 PM, patwotrik wrote:
You do have a point, but I do definitely not agree completely here. But maybe I have misunderstood something. I thought that reviews and rates were primarily aimed at other users here and not the creators.
In the end, you're reviewing based on whatever criteria you want, and the target of the review can be the creator or the audience. If I made it seem like you're breaking rules, or that you have to vote a certain way, sorry for misleading. The only rules are don't spam or be a dick.
That said, I don't read reviews before watching/playing and I don't think many people do. Also, the site suggests being constructive in reviews, which suggests this is feedback for the author. Finally, lots of people submit on NG solely for the feedback. These are the reasons I feel that reviews are for the author and ratings are for the audience.
When it comes to games in prototype state, one reason that I usually vote them down is that there does actually exist a beta section here. Aren't unfinished games supposed to be there when you want feedback?
The easiest way to get testers is either to have an above average following on social media, or submit it on Newgrounds. nothing wrong with wanting more eyes on it. if you think it wasted your time, I think it's reasonable to vote low, but you might discover a fun unfinished project that you can follow during the development.
I'd be happy to vote the way I should. On Stackoverflow there are pretty clear instructions on what should be taken into account when you vote, which is great.
Stack overflow has a more clear cut goal, Newgrounds is an entertainment site, no guidelines can tell you what you find entertaining
All I'm saying is that you said that these things have value, but you're rating low because of what they are. and that's contradictory.
Of course I don't vote down games only because they are short. Short does not imply unfinished. There are several very short games that I have given high rates, because even if they were very short they still felt complete. I'm talking about games that gives me the "What? Already over?"-disappointing feeling. So I guess my rating to a large extent the joy the game gave me.
Edit:that's kinda how I felt about starbarians 3, but I still voted 5 stars because it's insanely awesome and things take time.
So what about episodic games? or games released in chapters? Those are unfinished, the only difference is it says "to be continued" at the end.
If you wanted it to go on longer it sounds like you were enjoying it. Voting low might make the author abandon the project.
- I vote high if it was worth my time, and i think it's worth the time of others, and if it can be improved (and everything can) I write a review.
- If it's something that has no value to me I don't vote on it, like I'm not gonna go vote 0 stars on every country song in the audio portal
- I vote lower for every bad decision they made that prevented me from enjoying a submission that I would have otherwise liked