I have a Sony Vaio laptop that doesn't give me too many problems, except that it sometimes doesn't display anything when it starts up. It's fairly new, but I've got an extended warranty on it just in case >: /

But I wanted to mention something about the 2d ban/Alien Hominid thing. I've talked to Synj, actually worked with him on NGJ3, and during an IM conversation he mentioned something about Sony's 2d ban. I asked if Alien Hominid would come out for PS2 and he said there's still a good chance that it will, but they may have to put in 3d menus or something that would get it on PS2.

It's because Sony thinks 2d games are seen as old technology and that'd make PS2 look bad. Because, well, it is old technology compared to the GameCube/X-box. I think that the ban might be laxed a bit more now, but might still require some 3d to be in the game, even if it's just a menu.

-T0MMY

More 2D games:
Venus and Braves
Guilty Gear X2
Contra
Viewtiful Joe

I would consider R-Type and Worms to be 2D as well, but I don't feel like digging up links.

The only diffrence I'm seeing here is that Sony has probably never heard of NewGrounds or AH until recently where Capcom, Kanomi and games like Viewtiful Joe and Contra are all highly successful. It sounds like your ban is little more the a "Standard of Quality" set to discourage people from making shit games that fail to use the PS2 to the best of it's capabilites. But it would be interesting to hear from somebody who really knows what's going on... like Tom or Synj.

At 6/30/04 03:12 PM, DroopyA wrote: More 2D games - more the last link was to a GameCube game
Venus and Braves

Release Date: n/a

Guilty Gear X2

3d backgrounds

Contra

all 3d

Viewtiful Joe

3d cel shaded

But it would be interesting to hear from somebody who really knows what's going on... like Tom or Synj.

the guy who worked with Synj on Alien Hominid even said. so I'm sure Synj will say the same thing about it in the email I sent him. now leave me alone I'm sick you following me around like some dog that wont stop humping my leg.

I've had my ps2 for over 2 years and it runs as flawlessly as it did the day I bought it. You even said you don't take good care of your stuff. I'm going to go dismantle my car then complain amout the car manufacturers that it broke.

At 6/29/04 03:40 PM, Zephyr2 wrote: Sony are cool, i've never had a problem.

hell yea
my computer sony VAIO
my camera sony handy cam mega pixel
me other video camera sony cybershot 3.2 megapixle
my PS2 and i have the network adapter and four contrplers etc..
my dads laptop sony VAIO and it s the coolest
my TV its a flatscreen 37'

almost every thing i own is sony

At 6/30/04 08:43 PM, SmashMaster wrote: now leave me alone I'm sick you following me around like some dog that wont stop humping my leg.

1, I actually would like to hear more about it (the ban). It's the first I've ever heard of such things but I've never thought about it to be honest. And 2, I visit this forum just as much as you do and more. I love video games, just like you do. I'm not following anybody... because we share the same intrests, it's obvious we're going to click on the same topics. You're not that special...

oh, and isn't Metal Slug 2D? Yeah... that's what I thought.

At 6/30/04 08:43 PM, SmashMaster wrote: the guy who worked with Synj on Alien Hominid even said.

I didn't say I worked on Alien Hominid. I said I worked on Newgrounds Jam #3.
The only real game I made was my TOON Flash game.

-T0MMY

At 6/29/04 03:38 PM, SmashMaster wrote: I've had a lot of Sony electronics, I've known a lot of people who have had Sony electronics. they suck.
I've gone through two PS2s and will be getting a third soon.

Your right sony does suck and so does PS2, get an X-Box, it is so much better!!!!!

At 6/30/04 11:09 PM, Payne_to_the_max wrote: Your right sony does suck and so does PS2, get an X-Box, it is so much better!!!!!

I hope a console war won't erupt now...

At 6/30/04 10:28 PM, DroopyA wrote: I'm not following anybody... because we share the same intrests, it's obvious we're going to click on the same topics. You're not that special...

you came into this topic, butted into one of my posts to someone else saying

Now will you please just shut up smashmaster? Every time you post in video game topic, you just make yourself look stupid.

looks like I am that special. btw I find talking to you to be irritating, as I'm sure you feel the same, you should be happy to hear that I will avoid talking to you now.

people just like to hate on powerful money-hungry corporations. understandable.

Mine is starting to die, It's like an old man. It cant even open its own disc drive without help XD we have to nudge it and then it opens. Oh, and only SOME DVDs dont work.
But yea, We are thinking of getting an X-Box, even though the controller is the size of Osama's beard.

I don't think there is or has ever been an actual ban on 2D games for the PS/PS2. Sony might put pressure on developers to go 3D though, to make "AWESOME HIGH TECH GAMES!!" or something.

In my opinion, some of the best looking games I've ever seen & played have been 2D.

At 6/30/04 11:22 PM, SmashMaster wrote: you came into this topic, butted into one of my posts to someone else saying

Oh, I'm sorry... I thought this was a public forum. What's that? It Is? Oh! Well then... eat a dick.

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As far as the "2D ban" goes, this is the best I could find... and mind you, this wasn't easy to dig up. 2D Ban? Kind of...

It simply states that Sony doesn't like 2D games, but still allows them on their system if they're garunteed to sell. Which is what I said earlier. Sony doesn't want everybody to pump out shit games for their system and destroy their good name, instead they want high quality games with advanced gameplay and graphics... you can't blame them for that. They are, after all, a business. Because of this, they often reject many new 2D games. That is, until they are garunteed to sell. Games like Worms, Viewtiful Joe, and Metal Slug are allowed because their popular and come from popular well-known game companies. It's all marketing.

2D games are not banned, they're just looked down upon because they're seen as "old technology". As stupid as it sounds, it's just a guide line and not a complete ban.

If AH is having trouble reaching the PS2 it's simply due to the fact that Sony has no idea who they are and are afraide that the game won't sell. If the did this for everybody, then sony would have lots of games that wouldn't sell and they wouldn't dominate the market like they do now... at least that's how they see it.

I also found this::
2D games?

but it's not about the ban, it's about the Lowrider game.

"whereas SNK’s games were REJECTED by SCEA. Amazing, quality assured, classic games turned away because Sony doesn’t like 2D. Rumor has it they’re even doing the same with some of Capcom’s titles. No King Of Fighters. No Metal Slug. No Viewtiful Joe."

But, SNK is Capcom and all the games he mentioned are available for the PS2 (although King of Fighters is now 3D). But Metal Slug and Viewtiful Joe remain in their classic 2D format. Like I said above, if Sony knows the 2D game will sell, it's allowed. Also note, even this says "Sony DOESN'T LIKE 2D"... not Sony BANED 2D games. There is a diffrence in preferring games where done in 3D and completely banning 2D games all together.

... you learn something new every day.

At 7/1/04 10:25 AM, DroopyA wrote: Oh, I'm sorry... I thought this was a public forum. What's that? It Is? Oh! Well then... eat a dick.

yep you're free to publicly humilate yourself. and the feeling is mutual.
Sony can allow 3d games that look 2d (VJ) and they can "prefer" that a 2d looking game doesnt make it to the PS2, just like you were "preferred" not to post on the BBS when you were banned.

If you dont take care of your electronics, they will wear out and mess up. I'm sure that you and your probably kicked them items that scratch your disks. Sony is one of the best quality electronics dealers for your money

I've had a big screen sony tv for 7 years and it hasn't had a problem. My Ps2 acts like a charm. I'm guessing people hate sony for the same reason people hate microsoft, they think it makes them look cool. Anyways, sony is one of the best electronic business out there.

At 7/1/04 04:10 PM, SmashMaster wrote: yep you're free to publicly humilate yourself. and the feeling is mutual.
Sony can allow 3d games that look 2d (VJ) and they can "prefer" that a 2d looking game doesnt make it to the PS2, just like you were "preferred" not to post on the BBS when you were banned.

1) I thought you weren't talking to me anymore?

2) How am I humiliating myself? You asked for 2D games on the PS2, I gave them to you. Other people said they agreed that there was a ban on the PS2. So I looked in to it. It's not an offical ban as 2D games are allowed, they're just looked down upon. We all learned something... I fail to see where I made a fool of myself.

3) Viewtiful Joe is 2D. Saying it's not isn't going to create a time rift in which you can go back in time and force the developers of the game to make it otherwise. In fact, Sony turned VJ down the first time because it was 2D. It was only after it became a hit on the GC did Sony try to get it back. Stop being a little bitch and face the facts. I'm sorry PS2 has a few 2D games. That's not my fault... but crying about it and comming up with lame excuses as to why those 2D games made it to the PS2 isn't going to change a thing.

4) Why do you keep brining up my ban? You act like it was a big terrible ordeal that effected everybody on the site. But in all reality, nobody gives a shit that I was banned once, not even me. So stop being a n00b for a second and realize that lots of people get banned from the BBS everyday and nobody thinks any more or any less of those people today. You're just trying to be cool and nobody has the heart to tell you that you're failing miserably at it. If you want to attack my person or flame me because PS2 has 2D games then more power to you, but at least make it somewhat whitty so it's enjoyable to read. "You where baned once" just isn't cutting it. Especially since that ban has nothing to do with the topic at hand... it just shows how stupid you can be.

At 7/1/04 04:39 PM, DroopyA wrote: 1) I thought you weren't talking to me anymore?

be patient all in due time. I know you really want me to keep talking to me that's why you make insulting posts aimed at me.

3) Viewtiful Joe is 2D. Saying it's not isn't going to create a time rift in which you can go back in time and force the developers of the game to make it otherwise.

Viewtiful Joe is 3d Cel Shaded
Cel Shading is 3d
you = wrong

4) Why do you keep brining up my ban? at least make it somewhat whitty

I'm sorry my wit went over your head with the 2d "ban." think it through maybe you'll understand it sometime tonight.

At 7/1/04 05:02 PM, SmashMaster wrote: some dumb shit

I could put some remarks here, but we're getting off topic. Matching my whit against the brains of a Jr high school student is little more then a waist of time. Lets stay on topic or shut up... ok?

Viewtiful Joe is 3d Cel Shaded

Sorry... start digging up info on the other 10 games I named and you might have point. Here, let me do your work for you. Metal Slug. Hey look, a 2D game. 2D games can't be banned if this made it to the PS2.

Once again: 2D games are NOT baned from the PS2. But, they are looked down upon as old technology. You're not wrong, but you're not right... and neither was I. Is there a reason you choose to keep arguing about this?

At 7/1/04 05:20 PM, DroopyA wrote: Matching my whit against the brains of a Jr high school student is little more then a waist of time.

I agree it is a "waste" of your time.

Metal Slug. Hey look, a 2D game.

I dont think that game is out yet. if it does come out on the PS2 then I'm sure they'll lift the ban for a game that promises to sell well, though I'm sure they will have a fit and make them put in 3d backgrounds or a 3d menu perhaps. Sony isnt a game company they know crap about good games but they are very very good at marketing if they dont want 2d games on the PS2 then I'm sure it will help sales, does it make the gamers happy? no. that's what's wrong with Sony.

At 7/1/04 05:44 PM, SmashMaster wrote:

Metal Slug. Hey look, a 2D game.

I dont think that game is out yet. if it does come out on the PS2 then I'm sure they'll lift the ban for a game that promises to sell well

You know what... you're right. No matter what links and games and articles and reviews I show you... I'm wrong. I always will be. So what if I can prove PS2 has 2D games? It obviously proves that I'm making it all up and there really is a 100% ban on all 2D games ever made on the PS2. So what if I found an article discussing Sony's feelings about 2D games that proves that there is no technicall ban? It means nothing. THe only reality in this world is the reality SmashMaster creates in his little bubble of a world. How dare I defy you.... piss off

At 7/1/04 06:00 PM, DroopyA wrote: piss off

I'd love to entertain you all day seeing as you have nothing better to do but even a 13 year old kid on summer break has better things to do then listen to your loser remarks.

At 7/1/04 04:10 PM, SmashMaster wrote:

At 7/1/04 10:25 AM, DroopyA wrote: Oh, I'm sorry... I thought this was a public forum. What's that? It Is? Oh! Well then... eat a dick.

yep you're free to publicly humilate yourself. and the feeling is mutual.
Sony can allow 3d games that look 2d (VJ) and they can "prefer" that a 2d looking game doesnt make it to the PS2, just like you were "preferred" not to post on the BBS when you were banned.

1) Sony did not ban them, they prefer they not have them. There are still 2d games, and a ban on NG forums is different because you're forced not to post, not "preferred" not to like you said.

2) Nobody gives a shit that Droopy got banned, it doesn't make you look any smarter, Droopy look worse, or your point sound any less stupid.

3) He just gave you sources where he got his info and you just chose to ignore the parts that you didn't have an answer to. Smooth.