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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 08:31:16


I don't know if this is a result of this update, but it seems like I no longer get notifications for new reviews.

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Well I would say that the current voting system is alright for now I guess. I know that this is still in work in progress, but I think it is coming along very well. At least more problems of the past has been corrected. So I see that the voting for the review is back, but only difference is that I couldn't see on who voted 'helpful' or 'useless' on the review. Only if you have a logged in account, you could see who liked or disliked your review. But I felt like the Tankman or Steve could've used different headgears, depending on which page you are in (games, movies, art, or audio). It doesn't make short messages like Pico's gang did in the old design when you gave the rating. I also noticed it didn't have the exp count message, but I remembered a few months back, you showed the screenshot of the progress bar between levels, which is still being worked on. At least you can delete your review, flag the author's response like you couldn't before. Although it lacks the short message about your review. Well I would love to type more, but I just got back from busy day with a busy family.

I'm giving this temporay update a 7.5/10. But I know it could be changed in the future.


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At 9/21/18 08:35 AM, Maltor-Sever wrote: @tomfulp I'd like that message telling me how many days left are needed to level up ,now it's just a mystery. and no, I don't want to use a third party website for that, the inhouse system worked just fine .

Also it seems that the new system is limiting me to 8 xp per day , and I'm not the only one experiencing the issue.Have seen others mentioning the same thing in this post.

talk about taking a system that worked fine and deliberately breaking it for no real good reason other than to pander to smart phone users.

The 8xp bug is fixed now so everyone should be able to log 10xp. You will get a notice when voting causes you to level up but for now if you want to check your status, you can see it in the stats box on your user page. We'll have to think on whether we reintroduce a status notification in the view page, since we're trying to keep it more streamlined.

Also mobile users weren't the ones asking for vote editing, review editing and the majority of the features we launched yesterday. The only thing this really addressed for mobile users is that two vote bars in a single column looked really weird. It was weird for desktop users too, though. It was weird for anyone who doesn't go way back with NG.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 08:51:31


At 9/21/18 08:31 AM, xmatos wrote: I don't know if this is a result of this update, but it seems like I no longer get notifications for new reviews.

It's possible this broke in the update.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 08:52:22


At 9/21/18 02:51 AM, Haggard wrote:
At 9/20/18 10:05 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/20/18 09:04 PM, Maltor-Sever wrote: @tomfulp so erm, Voting Exp and B/P no longer contribute to the weight of my vote ?.
They do, although we don't show that message about it each time you vote.
But what about level ups? Before it would show "Congrats, you reached level XY!", doesn't it do that anymore? I mean, not that it matters to me, but not every user has reached level 60 yet. ;)

People will still get a custom message when they level up, they just don't get a message for every vote now.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 08:53:18


At 9/21/18 12:16 AM, IoTheEternal wrote:
At 9/21/18 12:05 AM, HipnikDragomir wrote: I have a couple of old cartoons from 2013 that have lost their score entirely and on their page say "awaiting votes".
yup - pretty much everything before 2015 has been obliterated score wise it seems.. however if you change your score for your song - say you 5ed it in the past, and then refresh, it will add all the reviews you have's scores as additional scores to your song. So if you have 50 reviews and it says awaiting votes you will then have 50 votes, but only if you alter your existing score on your song, or if someone else reviews your song or rates it.

This was due to a bulk update script that failed yesterday during the downtime, which would have updated everything ahead of time. This will be getting resolved.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 09:35:03


Much needed. There is a long work ahead of me now.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 10:02:23


At 9/20/18 04:06 PM, TomFulp wrote: 2) The Pico voting bar and review score bar have been merged into a single score bar, featuring tankman Steve, illustrated by @IvanAlmighty.

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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 10:55:02


At 9/20/18 04:06 PM, TomFulp wrote: We are now ignoring the "anonymous" vote data from 2000-2015.

As a result, we have old submissions with lower vote totals and high scores that might not best reflect community consensus.

Very understandable, very understandable indeed. I expected it and saw it coming, eventually. And a decision had to be made there. But it still pains me, a little, that previous efforts are now as much as flecks of blams and saves in the wind, destined to be carried forever more into the abyss...

That said, this feels like a good change, Tom. I really, really hope it encourages people to leave more reviews and, especially, more constructive reviews! If I had the time and energy, I'd do so more often and, perhaps, this may encourage me to start doing so again...


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 11:03:45


Niiiiice! I've known you talk about the EXP overhaul from years back Tom. I'm liking this so far but I am gonna note one thing. Don't ask me how but I managed to earn 12 EXP today as opposed to the usual 10. I'm sure today's gain is 12 more than what I had yesterday.

Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 11:23:08


At 9/21/18 08:51 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/21/18 08:31 AM, xmatos wrote: I don't know if this is a result of this update, but it seems like I no longer get notifications for new reviews.
It's possible this broke in the update.

It's happening to me too.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 11:51:15


Let’s say a quick prayer for these Uberkid voting icons that never got to be used.

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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 11:58:52


@tomfulp I don't see any of the reviews on my art anymore.

Like the actual reviews.

Were they deleted/have they moved?

If this was answered and I missed it, sorry!

If anyone else knows, hmu.

My scores don't appear changed, my reviews are just missing.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 12:01:08


@tomfulp Has the XP bug been correct? I only received 8 points yesterday. Is it just a cosmetic issue, or are users not receiving 10 XP every day?


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 12:11:25


At 9/21/18 11:58 AM, HeadMistressSeven wrote: @tomfulp I don't see any of the reviews on my art anymore.

Do you see any reviews on this page? I'm seeing a bunch so just checking.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 12:30:08


At 9/20/18 10:01 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/20/18 07:56 PM, DrMackFoxx wrote: Quite a useful update. The ability to completely wipe out one's review log may appeal to some people.
We're planning a bulk delete depot where you can bulk delete specific categories of site interactions, most likely based on this mock-up:

Can we also get a check box to delete Newgrounds?

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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 12:43:01


Glad to see this finally got done! Cant wait to see whats up next!


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 12:45:01


Would it be possible to see distribution of votes somewhere similar to Amazon? I like being able to see if something has a moderate score because people agree it's mediocre or if it's bimodal between people that gave high and low scores.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 12:52:37


At 9/21/18 12:11 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/21/18 11:58 AM, HeadMistressSeven wrote: @tomfulp I don't see any of the reviews on my art anymore.
Do you see any reviews on this page? I'm seeing a bunch so just checking.
http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/headmistressseven/the-most-amazing-thing

They used to be right here when I scroll down. Now when I scroll down, nothing.

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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 12:59:40


At 9/21/18 12:39 PM, IoTheEternal wrote:
At 9/21/18 12:01 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: @tomfulp Has the XP bug been correct? I only received 8 points yesterday. Is it just a cosmetic issue, or are users not receiving 10 XP every day?
it's been fixed.

Thanks for letting me know, IoTheEternal.

Glad to see that major issue was corrected.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 13:03:51


At 9/21/18 12:52 PM, HeadMistressSeven wrote: They used to be right here when I scroll down. Now when I scroll down, nothing.

Oh whoops, they're missing on the mobile layout. Will give Jim the heads up.


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I love it, super sleek and engaging.. and the new tank man icons are sexy

I also love how you can scrub back and forth and animate them 😁

Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 13:30:31


At 9/21/18 01:03 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/21/18 12:52 PM, HeadMistressSeven wrote: They used to be right here when I scroll down. Now when I scroll down, nothing.
Oh whoops, they're missing on the mobile layout. Will give Jim the heads up.

Glad we solved the problem!

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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 13:31:36


At 9/21/18 01:05 PM, MindChamber wrote: I love it, super sleek and engaging.. and the new tank man icons are sexy

I also love how you can scrub back and forth and animate them 😁

It's the most action I'm getting today.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 13:31:48


At 9/21/18 01:17 PM, IoTheEternal wrote:
At 9/21/18 01:03 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/21/18 12:52 PM, HeadMistressSeven wrote: They used to be right here when I scroll down. Now when I scroll down, nothing.
Oh whoops, they're missing on the mobile layout. Will give Jim the heads up.
Hey tom can you put the rating system ABOVE the song description, that way it is always consistently in the same place, right under the waveform? If people have super long descriptions it puts it way down there..

Have been considering this... We've also been considering auto-collapsing the author comments beyond a certain number of lines, the way we do to forum and blog posts in user feeds. I'm not really a fan of how heavily YouTube collapses commentary but there might be a happy medium, like six lines before you gotta click for more.


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Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 13:37:30


The new review score bar looks awesome!!

Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 14:25:10


Sad that Pico's gone, but I think Ivan did a great job with the tankmen emotes

Overall not a bad change, I'm a little iffy about deleting reviews but I can see why some people would like that though

Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 15:13:16


So now that you can flag author's responses, what happens if a response is considered abusive?

Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 15:33:23


At 9/20/18 08:45 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/20/18 05:36 PM, GeoKureli wrote: I'm confused how this new ranking system works?

Katan - Votes:1,850 Score:4.89 Rank:#1
Tarboy - Votes:8,847 Score:4.91 Rank:#50
It currently updates once per day so expect a big shift on the next refresh.

I waited a day and now I'm even more confused.

Response to Voting & Review Overhaul is a go! 2018-09-21 15:49:14


At 9/21/18 03:13 PM, MistyEntertainment wrote: So now that you can flag author's responses, what happens if a response is considered abusive?

Yeah this is bad.